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Talk of getting Maynard is nonsense, what has he done ? A couple of mid table finishes with Wealdstone, a disappointing season in L2 with Notts and then took York up with a massive budget to play with, even then they nearly blew it at Rochdale.
I don’t see any evidence he’d be any different to Butler.

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<p id=”geom_inter_1787150076488_31_9″>Definitely crunch time for Whitehall just like it was for Paddy Madden.
The key thing is to always let your goalscorers go without replacing them with another proven goalscorer worked well for us we got relegated the following season.

But he wanted to go says the fans (without any proof of course) his hearts not in it anymore, he’s past his sell by date and of course undoubtedly shit to go with it.
Not like the Woottons and Goddens of this world who went on to score many once left, fans decry that.
Our manager saw it last year with Dec ya don’t want players who can score goals proven at every level let him go as well.

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I agree it is crunch time for Whitehall.
It was clear at the time that Wooton and Godden were good young players, but the expectation from us was too high. They both dropped down to the Conference (our level now !) got game time, did well, improved and went back up to have good careers.
I’d say Cam Wilson was similar, clearly a skilful player but we never got the best out of him, dropped a couple of leagues and scored 26 goals for Matlock last season, I think well see him back eventually in the National League.
Whitehall is the other end of the age spectrum, he is what he is, the only way is down.

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“Ross Barrows was everywhere for the home side on Saturday.”

Except on the back post for the Yeovil goal.

Nailed it Cass.

I give up, watch the highlights Rene, It is Denton who loses the scorer and Whitehall with a halfhearted attempt to then stop him.

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Steve wrote:

You think Barrows does well?

This was the RB on Saturday you know?

I guess this a snide way of saying you disagree Stevie Boy.
Maybe we’ll sign Trent Alexander Arnold before the transfer window closes, until then it’s Barrows, Starbuck, Ogle or Rose depending on whose fit and AB decides to pick. As I said I think Barrows does well when called upon as he did on Saturday when he played RB for Scunthorpe United – I know because I was there and saw him and have confirmed it with online records of the match.

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Barrows is clearly the whipping boy, yet I think he does well whenever called upon. He got constant abuse from some moron stood near me in the DRE.
If the likes of Roberts had put that ball across to Brennan for the goal it would be lauded as the greatest assist of all time, but it was Barrows….

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Out of Rowley, Richards or Dec Howe that would have to be Richards surely ?
He looked absolutely lost, that chance was probably his only touch in the entire first half.

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I thought the same when I got the latest email Apollo.
I’m probably like most members and haven’t got involved to any great extent such as attending the agm and assume everything is done democratically as per their published rules. Looking back I see that the sharebuilder scheme email was started the same way :

“Trust members have encouraged the Trust to consider devising a scheme to raise significant funds for the club which, as usual, would be in return for the purchase of SUFC shares.”

I didn’t get involved in that as I don’t fully understand it, but I naively assumed that it was something suggested and voted on at the agm and had been planned since then. It is now clear this isn’t how the trust works which is very concerning.

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It is completely unacceptable from the Trust it clearly isn’t Democratic.
I’m a member and the first I heard was when they’d already started a gofundme collection, then they’ve donated £500 from Trust funds.

Edit : they’ve donated £500 in the name of the trust, I don’t know where the money came from.

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Champions.
You heard it here first !

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Although he’s often derided on here I’ve got no doubt that there will have already been interest in Butler from other clubs. Therefore it makes sense to start training up his replacement.

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If you look at his league (not non league like half of our players) appearances and goals there is definitely a good player in Hurst. Personally I think he’s a good signing bearing in mind our lack of finances.

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I just tried it again and now it doesn’t give the number of members, so they’ve removed that this morning I wonder why….

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Will they ever learn ?
Just looked at it, if you press the button to join it shows how many members there are – currently 35.

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RoamingBull wrote:

TJO nice to cut to the chase with your update.

Extra income from the pitch? Surely that’s gonna be peanuts in the grand scheme of things.
Nice that they are putting things on in the summer gala etc but doubt that will be bringing in much coppers to the pot.

Should keep the low season ticket prices throughout the summer and not just till end of May.

So the 20% increase in player budget guess this will just add to the loan

I think they are hoping teams like Hull and Leeds might use it for their U21/reserve team matches but I might have misunderstood.

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Just listened to the owner interview .

From George – Pitch was big project with new drainage, new sprinkler system . 10 year guarantee with hybrid surface. Hope to generate extra income from pitch. New groundsman taken on. Currently no chairperson of the community interest company that own the ground. We’ve still use of the car park for next 12 months.
Not generating enough money so still making a loss but success on the pitch will hopefully improve that.
From Michelle – Lee Collison brings financial experience. EFL loan still over £1 million. EFL want club to sign up to a wage cap but Michelle says they won’t be doing that. Playing budget increased from last season by about 20% which makes us mid table compared to rest of NL. Season ticket sales up from last season. Some kind of joint club open day combined with British Steel gala planned for this summer.
Fanzone coming sometime this year.
Sad that Roberts went but understandable.
Disappointed that Ewing went to club in same league, Michelle negotiated a sell on clause if he leaves FGR. Club won’t stand in any players way.
Possible ladies team of some sort. Academy is too expensive until we are in EFL.

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Awaywego wrote:

Any info from the Butler interview and Michelle’s please can’t receive it where I am.

Basically, don’t panic signings on the way. Paid a fee for a yet unnamed player. Want to improve on where we finished this season. Took the piss about Ewing going to FGR saying he’ll get squad number 117.
Wants some more experience, will try different formations in preseason, can’t use pitch as an excuse anymore.
Winger having a medical today. Sounds like Altrincham are interested in Howe but no deal done. AB thinks Brogan needs more experience and game time, hence he was released. Barrows, Jones, Campbell, Shipstone still to sign. AB and Muzzy rate both keepers. Kyle Hurst probably coming, has been offered a contract. We will be playing in the National League Cup.
That’s about it, I’ve not listened to the Michelle one yet.

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I can live with Ewing, Westbrooke, Roberts or in fact any of them going. Unfortunately it’s welcome to reality. We can’t compete with the big spenders in our own league and never will until someone with money to burn turns up and decides to burn it with us.
I’m glad the club aren’t breaking the bank on any of these characters and I don’t blame any of them for taking the money elsewhere.

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The EFL hoped that Boro would win the semi final and the problem would go away. Now the EFL hope that Hull will win the final and it will mostly go away.

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The recently released statement by Phil Parsons, CE of Southampton. Entitled as fuck.

Entitled indeed. I actually started to feel some sympathy for Hull as Parsons statement reads like they were already promoted or at least would definitely beat Hull. Now I hear Hull are getting legal advice with a view to be given promotion without even playing the final !

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They’ve cheated, got caught, hoped they’d get a paltry fine for admitting it but have been rightly hammered by the EFL. If they had any decency as a club they’d take their medicine and hide away but they’re still bleating about it and appealing.
Karma is a bitch and Harwood-Bellis’s binoculars taunt to Ayling has condemned him to be an internet meme forever.

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The facts were out there for Matlock to see before they voted for Hilton to take over. It is absolutely no surprise and they were warned.

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I’ll start this by saying FC100000 was a massive error by the owners, Rochdale tickets were a fiasco, Butler should not have got into a shouting match with Bhuna’s dad and the club shouldn’t have banned him.

I’m not a Butler disciple, there are no end of things that I would have liked to have been done differently, but to get that close to a playoff final at Wembley with that squad is an achievement whichever way you cut it.
You can talk about the science of motivation, energy and momentum but we’re talking about getting 25 people with 25 personalities (who are all mainly worried about themselves, as we all are), most of whom are only here because they aren’t wanted anywhere else, to all pull in the same direction. Look at what happened with Ewing when he didn’t get the move he wanted for an example.
Butler never misses a chance to mention the budget (which is something I think he should have been quieter about ) but it is a fact we had a mid table, at best, budget. The owners do not have very deep pockets, half the players are NLN standard and that is the position for the foreseeable future. There is more chance of Butler getting an offer to go elsewhere than anything else.
In which case, I know many of you won’t agree, but I will be hoping he stays and he can be as stubborn, prickly and make decisions I don’t like as much as he wants.

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If Rose resumes his previous form then that is RB sorted. I’d keep Barrows as he can also play CB. If Belehouan is out of contract I’d release him.
I think Westbrooke will get other offers so hopefully we can sign him. There’s got to be a decent CB available somewhere.
Ewing and Roberts will be hard to replace but they aren’t world beaters, we’ve known the likelihood of them going so hopefully AB already has some ideas.

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We ran out of steam a few weeks ago when Farrell went back to Barnsley. Did well to get past Southend but Rochdale didn’t have to do anything special today, 2 goals gifted to them on a plate.

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They’ll just keep quiet and hope it all gets forgotten like everything else has.
They haven’t even said “sorry Rochdale have had one over on us we shouldn’t have trusted them” .

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Like I said in my earlier post, round 1 to Rochdale.

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Noster wrote:

OWS said tickets available after 6.00 pm on Fanbase. Tried at 6.45 pm, all seats greyed out. Very disappointed.

Strange, I got one an hour later. Didn’t get 6 but still could have there were several dotted around.

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Round 1 in the playoff semifinal to Rochdale then.
Iron website says “ Rochdale have set it to a maximum of six tickets per account holder.” Easy way of knocking the noise level down from us on Sunday, Season ticket holder brings 5 mates, family, kids etc for a day out and the allocation is sold out.
Played us like a cheap fiddle with that one.

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Ref was horrendous for both sides, particularly second half. Female assistant bailed him out a couple of times, notably when he was going to give Southend a goal kick for an obvious corner.
Sour grapes if they’re moaning about Whitehall and the ref.

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Tricky thing about our team rootshallbloke is that if they all turn up on the night, they can be very very good. We’ve seen it.
Worrying thing for us is we haven’t seen it for a long time.

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