Kevin Keegan Tribute

[Apollo11]

The only way forward is a memorial wall, or a ‘legends wall’, with a brick each for those worthy players who have passed. The bricks could be paid for out of a fund people can pay into if they wish. Anything too directed at one individual player is highly contentious. Don’t get me wrong, Keegan is one of my personal heroes, but in Scunthorpe United terms is he actually more worthy than Brownsword? Cammack?

[Awaywego]

Garcia at least scored at Wembley, Kevin van Veen at Grimsby (the only win I’ve seen there and the same for most fans) and the celebration that will live forever in my memory, well at least till I get Alzheimer’s.
And Keegan did!

Certainly an interesting discussion on what constitutes a legend again, probably last addressed on here with Staffy and Jerry.
I agree with Apollo that the trust have acted a tad to early on the issue when there was/is time to have read the room and do something appropriate if and I mean if required.

[MK Iron]

I think you might have missed out the “in my opinion” bit Apollo. As Deery quite rightly pointed out to me recently after one of my posts that was a little dogmatic.

[64]

Buy a card or book,get it signed .Package it off to his family to mouth nice words about then move on .

[Apollo11]

This is slightly more formal an announcement than in the email last week, and the intention has changed from statue to memorial. I’d imagine the lack of blanket support, and the slow tick over of the fundraising, has clipped the Trust’s heels somewhat. Call it a reality check..?

Keegan – 28th July – Iron Trust

[Apollo11]

They do still seem to be banging on with the intention for a Keegancentric memorial. Once again, this is absolutely not the way to go as it insults other former players who gave greater service. No denying KK was a hero, and is extremely fondly thought of in our town, but his greatness in the game came after Scunthorpe. Do a memorial wall, which can be added to as time goes by and other players pass. Whoever at the Trust is behind this move is getting it a bit wrong.

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Rene Artois

[64]

I’d say there’s a line between representing and leading. We elect them to run the trust and a certain amount of leading has to be accepted with a huge amount of representation.This is a big project to not canvassing members on

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MosbyCumner

[Apollo11]

64 wrote:

I’d say there’s a line between representing and leading. We elect them to run the trust and a certain amount of leading has to be accepted with a huge amount of representation.This is a big project to not canvassing members on

I don’t know who makes the Trust’s decisions these days, but as soon as the email about the statue arrived last week I felt snubbed and like it was possibly one person taking a huge misstep. Consultation with membership should definitely have been the first move. The Trust should not be one person’s plaything, or those at the helm should not second-guess their membership. Really bad, this, imho.

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MosbyCumner

[Apollo11]

Dear me. Gosling on BBC Radio Humberside just now talking about a statue, the Iron Trust and the club making social media announcements about a statue. The Iron Trust membership has been / is being steamrollered. Bring back John Needham.

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MosbyCumner

[64]

Gone a bit quiet

[Awaywego]

Can I say it’s died a death.

And now the embarrassing bit which many were concerned with, especially with it making the national news.

[Apollo11]

Awaywego wrote:

Can I say it’s died a death.

And now the embarrassing bit which many were concerned with, especially with it making the national news.

The Trust probably deserves the embarrassment for taking its members for granted and jumping the gun. Making unilateral decisions, announcing fundraisers and undertaking media appearances before anyone had properly had a chance to shed a tear was seriously rubbish behaviour.

[Apollo11]

Apollo11 wrote:

Awaywego wrote:

Can I say it’s died a death.

And now the embarrassing bit which many were concerned with, especially with it making the national news.

The Trust probably deserves the embarrassment for taking its members for granted and jumping the gun. Making unilateral decisions, announcing fundraisers and undertaking media appearances before anyone had properly had a chance to shed a tear was seriously rubbish behaviour.

All this is compounded by Bryan Gosling of the Trust on X claiming that: “ people need to realise that this statue is for KEVIN KEEGAN, not for the iron trust, the iron trust have just voiced this idea from its members “

Still no answers whatsoever from the Trust on which members.

[PhilAnders]

When I lived in Liverpool in the 70’s the house was next to an evangelical church, which had a sign outside that read “Jesus Saves!” To which a wag had added in thick black felt tip pen “ But Keegan scores on the rebound!”.
To think that in the spirit world this might actually be happening…

[cassidystash]

It was borrowed. I think the original was:-
Jesus saves but St John scores the rebound,

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[ironlion82]

How’s the go fund me page going for the statue oh sorry memorial.
Have they reached the £50k yet ?

[Iron-awe]

cassidystash wrote:

It was borrowed. I think the original was:-
Jesus saves but St John scores the rebound,

Someone wrote on Tescos wall “ Jesus saves, Whitehall misses”, obviously a season ticket holder.

[Awaywego]

That’s pretty normal for scunny inbreds who don’t realise a goalscorer when they see one, a goal every 160 mins last season.
Same with KVV, same with Ivan the terrible.
Could be 64 who wrote it though Ironawe he’s his favourite player.

[Deereyme66]

Same ‘inbreds’ who repeat the same monotonous chants in the DRE every home game? It would make sense.

[Rene Artois]

It’s not going very well.
Only 8% of the initial target raised.

Wasn’t one of his nicknames Mighty Mouse?
Maybe erect a 1/10th scale statute?

These days, you can’t get a decent bike for less than £5K

[Iron-awe]

Flipping heck Rene you and your Tour de France references get worse mate, lol.

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Rene Artois

[Awaywego]

I was thinking more the Mortz and Threadgold Deerey, good picture of some of the inbreds from said stands (unity group) laying flowers at the Keegan memorial.
Someone still got his seventies side burns on lol.

[Rene Artois]

Armthorpe Welfare FC have done their bit:

[ironlion82]

Well that’s cleared that up. According to the latest Trust News letter it was calls from Members requesting they set up a fund
Would that be Committee Members or ordinary Members ?

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TheJuryeffsOut

[Apollo11]

ironlion82 wrote:

Well that’s cleared that up. According to the latest Trust News letter it was calls from Members requesting they set up a fund
Would that be Committee Members or ordinary Members ?

To me that breezily delivered comment in the email is a face saving / arse-covering exercise after they’ve read social media comments about their conduct, and realised they’ve slop-dropped a steaming wet one.

Even if what their email says was true, it’s seriously poor form indeed by the Trust to have not first widened their scope on the matter and put it to ALL members for comments / ideas / a vote before launching their campaign. The whole thing could have done with a lot more input and some moderate voices amidst the histrionics.

Are we to now assume that if two, three or four members shout a request loud enough at the Trust’s top brass they will action it?

This is not the Trust I had faith in. And, as such, as it stands I no longer have faith in it.

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TheJuryeffsOut

[Awaywego]

Never had faith in it that’s why I never joined it.

The idea of it is good but in reality as done very little down the years, but the set up of it did allow them and only them to challenge selling of the ground by claiming but was a community asset. More luck than judgement.
One of the only positive things they actually did was pushing 10 years for a fan director only to let it then fold within a year what were they doing.

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TheJuryeffsOut

[TheJuryeffsOut]

I thought the same when I got the latest email Apollo.
I’m probably like most members and haven’t got involved to any great extent such as attending the agm and assume everything is done democratically as per their published rules. Looking back I see that the sharebuilder scheme email was started the same way :

“Trust members have encouraged the Trust to consider devising a scheme to raise significant funds for the club which, as usual, would be in return for the purchase of SUFC shares.”

I didn’t get involved in that as I don’t fully understand it, but I naively assumed that it was something suggested and voted on at the agm and had been planned since then. It is now clear this isn’t how the trust works which is very concerning.

[saleiron]

The share builder scheme was definitely put to members for views. I remember replying to say that I supported it.

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TheJuryeffsOut

[saleiron]

The Trust’s work on securing the stadium was very much based on good judgement as well as a lot of time. Even if you don’t agree with the current KK initiative (and I don’t), it doesn’t negate all the Trust’s achievements and work over the years.

Awaywego wrote:

Never had faith in it that’s why I never joined it.

The idea of it is good but in reality as done very little down the years, but the set up of it did allow them and only them to challenge selling of the ground by claiming but was a community asset. More luck than judgement.
One of the only positive things they actually did was pushing 10 years for a fan director only to let it then fold within a year what were they doing.

[Apollo11]

The Trust’s work on securing the stadium was very much based on good judgement as well as a lot of time. Even if you don’t agree with the current KK initiative (and I don’t), it doesn’t negate all the Trust’s achievements and work over the years.

Completely agree – but something has certainly changed in the last however many months.

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