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    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    Well we did learn that Scunny fans have raised eyebrows and scratch their heads a lot, I do hope it’s not catching am glad I gave it a miss.

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    #324298
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    Observations and musings after a nights sleep, some repetition of earlier posts so, it seems, I’m not alone in what I’ve seen.
    Great crowd, they deserved better, that surely can’t be our best starting XI.
    Pleased to see a 4-3-3 start.
    Dec Howe is not the best option on the right of a front 3.
    A MF with Richards and Rowley lacks creativity, either/or but not both.
    Why does Beestin look a better player as a sub than a starter?
    Butterfield and Gale greatly improved things.
    How does the fifth choice RB get a start?
    The passing between Evans and Howe was Premiership class, 100% successful completion and boring as hell!
    The ball over the top for a running MF will not always be flagged offside. A big problem that teams will exploit. Defensive line too high or CBs too slow?
    Not a terrible performance but one that suggests mid-table mediocrity rather than a promotion challenge.
    Must do better, maybe starting better players would help.

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    #324300
    Iron64iron64
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    Agree with all Cass – only possible question mark, Richards and Rowley could be ok if the full backs pushed on to the opposition box (try Horton and Ogle)and the third midfielder went passed the striker. Which Beestin you expect to do, and does show as a sub!
    What is the the issue with P Jones, pulling his shorts up and hitting his thighs, clearly should have gone off 15 mins before he did.

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    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
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    SaleIron said:

    Even for insiders?

    I’m an outsider.

    #324302
    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
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    How many season ticket holders are there this season?

    What was yesterday’s attendance?

    #324303
    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    Definitely nail on the head in my observations too Cass, Beestin looks better when he comes on as a sub.
    Again not alone in that respect.

    #324307
    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    How many season ticket holders are there this season?

    What was yesterday’s attendance?

    Not sure about total season ticket sales, well north of 2000 I believe, gate was given as 5111 with 260 Yeovil fans attending. I thought it was a good gate considering holiday season but of course the weather helped as it was another glorious sunny day with a 27c temperature.

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    #324311
    saleironsaleiron
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    Aren’t we all?

    SaleIron said:

    Even for insiders?

    I’m an outsider.

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    #324316
    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    Spot on post IMO Cass

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    #324317
    lesgeolesgeo
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    To me, Brennan looks at least one street ahead of Westlake.

    #324323
    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    To me, Brennan looks at least one street ahead of Westlake.

    Who the hell is Westlake, sounds like a countryside beauty spot. If you mean Westbrooke les then yes Brennan looks like an exciting signing but surely a different type of player playing in a different position, if it’s Westbrooke versus Richard’s then on yesterday’s showing the jury is still out IMO.

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    cassidystashcassidystash
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    I only noticed Richards once. Can you guess when? Not fair to judge on one game I know, but……

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    #324326
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    I know it’s only one game, but how did Rowley get subbed and Richards play the full game? Unless yesterday’s performance was a major blip, I am worried about Richards being a starter this season. Then again, our CM options are very limited. There may be fewer obvious makeweights in this season’s squad, but our best starting eleven is definitely weaker imo.

    #324330
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    Watched the game yesterday, and rewatched it this morning. Have read the critical posts.
    We set up 433 they 451
    Given that we were always going to have difficulty playing through them and so we resorted to knocking the ball around at the back waiting for a runner. That wasn’t Whitehall, and Dec and Pat Jones had obviously been told to get as much Whitewash on their boots as possible. The result was long balls from the back out wide of from the fullbacks into Whitehalls feet, which he then proceeded to shithouse away. Pat jones was able to bring the ball under control a few times and then run his man. With no runners into the box he had little options other than to delay the cross, giving someone from the midfield 5 time to double up. Yeovil’s main attacking ploy was to releases midfield runner to chase a ball beyond our Centre back. But for the linesman’s flag that vey nearly worked ( including one where their player was clearly onside and another saved by a Tyler Denton last ditched Tackle. Rather strangely our main midfield runner (Beestin) seemed to be holding back so not to stray to far from Westbrooke! This meant that in the final third we were poor, last year, Cal Roberts would have come inside looking for the ball and on occasions that worked. This year, neither Howe nor Jones looked to do that. Their goal was well worked but organisationally we were poor. No right back or right winger covering the back stick and looking for the runner from deep. People are blaming Whitehall as the last man in our defensive line, but he was rightly watching Gubbins. No, organisational mistake that needs the management team to rectify.
    After the goal, we made changes, Butterfield and Gale and the introduction of Brennan suddenly gave our CB’s a third option, to pass their way through the Yeovil press and Butterfield receiving the ball beyond their press started to make things happen, especially with Gale looking to make runs in the final third and Brennan and jones looking for a ground ball beyond’s the inside shoulder of the full backs. For the first time in the game , Yeovil panicked and their manager dropped a man from midfield into the defence to make a back five. This just created more room for Butterfield to spray it around, and with Hurst on for the Riring Pat Jones , continued to turn the screw. It as just desserts when Brennan equalised. A little too late in the day for us to manufacture a second. On balance, a draw a fair result.
    From a Scunthorpe perspective that was not a home promotion performance. Tactically, the players we looked to play 433 from the start were not able to play at the tempo and precision required. Once we had two experienced wide players on with a midfielder looking to make runs onto and beyond their back five and a centre midfielder prepared to collect the ball from tour defenders and pass forwards we looked much more of a goal threat. Having your initial three play defensively while hoping that your CBs can play a killer ball to a wide player or a static Danny Whitehall will not get the goals required to get us out of this league. This is a management tactical issue. Had AB made the 60 min changes at half time we may not have conceded, and scored a couple.
    The formation Yeovil played we will see a lot of teams deploy at the Attis this season. They were well organised and everyone did their job without being spectacular. Deploying that formation, they too may have difficulty scoring the goals to be in the play offs.
    Positives, we didn’t lose, after the subs we looked to create plenty against a side that nullified us up to that point. We definitely have a stronger squad ( every sub made a positive impact) but we must learn fast not to play goofball static, defensive 433. I’m afraid one of Rowley or Richards and Dec Howe will need to be sacrificed for us to do this!

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    #324331
    TheJuryeffsOutTheJuryeffsOut
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    Out of Rowley, Richards or Dec Howe that would have to be Richards surely ?
    He looked absolutely lost, that chance was probably his only touch in the entire first half.

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    #324334
    Apollo11Apollo11
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    Are we saying Whitehall’s “race is run” with United?

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    BigLeftToeBigLeftToe
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    Can’t disagree with any of Cass’ summary of the game. We probably deserved a point, but only just. Yeovil can be very upset with one of their offside decisions which on viewing the replay was a good two yards onside!

    Richards and Rowley shouldn’t be starting in the same midfield together, especially at home. Richards won Boston’s POTS so he must have something about him…but that was as the deep lying midfielder of the 3, not in the position he was playing yesterday. Seems to be a trait of Butler liking players out of position….Dec on the wing and Gale a midfielder when he’s been a striker his entire career (although I did like the look of Gale yesterday and he definitely made a difference when he came on).

    Our two best wingers appear to be Jones and Brennan…the problem being that they are both left wingers. Butterfield changed the game when he came on and should start instead of one of Rowley/Richards but can he last a full game?

    Nothing disastrous about yesterday’s performance but nothing inspiring either.

    #324338
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    Just watched Garth’s blog, what’s with the 7 fans leaving once we scored and before they restarted
    (and that’s just in the centre of the Mortz on view) , still 10% of the match left not like we were 3-1 down.

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    Nothing disastrous about yesterday’s performance but nothing inspiring either.

    I expect most of the matches this season to be variations on yesterday’s theme.

    #324341
    ironfromafarironfromafar
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    As i posted previously ..IMO Butler has not got a clue of his best starting 11 and formation .. in hindsight his decisions yesterday were clueless.
    Drop whall
    play Gale n Howe upfront
    Brennan / Jones
    Horton before Dents
    rb take yr pick except Barrows.

    not a great start but avoiding defeat JUST by a couple of dodgy offsides isnt goos enough.

    I dont like Butler ..nice fella but hasnt the fotballing nouse to be a top manager .. bad decisions by him throughout the season will see just justbe an inconsistent mid table mediocre outfit.

    Butterfield will be interim or full time mmanager around Xmas n NY as Butlers demi god staus will have worn thin by then .

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    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Just watched Garth’s blog, what’s with the 7 fans leaving once we scored and before they restarted
    (and that’s just in the centre of the Mortz on view) , still 10% of the match left not like we were 3-1 down.

    I’m with you Awaywego on early leavers, quite a few leave every home game some from 85 minutes onward in the Threadgold stand, regularly miss late goals be they winners or equaliser’s like yesterday. Really strange what’s the big deal getting away early? just crazy IMO.

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    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
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    Just watched Garth’s blog, what’s with the 7 fans leaving once we scored and before they restarted
    (and that’s just in the centre of the Mortz on view) , still 10% of the match left not like we were 3-1 down.

    I’m with you Awaywego on early leavers, quite a few leave every home game some from 85 minutes onward in the Threadgold stand, regularly miss late goals be they winners or equaliser’s like yesterday. Really strange what’s the big deal getting away early? just crazy IMO.

    That’s happened since the New Show Ground first opened nearly 40 years ago!

    Used to take forever to get out of that infernal car park!

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    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    Leaving 5 mins early was a big Bartonscorpion trait, some may recall. Some just can’t be arsed with the 15-20mim car park exit. I get it but wouldn’t want to do it.

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    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
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    Abysmal… as usual !
    To say that Stan was a head it and kick it defender – he must be fuming!

    8 v 4 in the box… and we concede to an unmarked / picked up runner at the back

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    #324374
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    Leaving 5 mins early was a big Bartonscorpion trait, some may recall. Some just can’t be arsed with the 15-20mim car park exit. I get it but wouldn’t want to do it.

    Well remembered, he didn’t like it when Kyle did well. He used to drive all over supporting the Iron.

    Hated over elaboration in passing and tactics – would imagine there would be many utterings today.

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