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    cassidystashcassidystash
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    A chance on Tuesday for players to stake a claim for a start on Saturday. Who, from the Southend game, has secured a start against Eastleigh?
    L Jones, C Howe, P Jones, D Howe.
    So IMO 7 starting places available.
    Drop the skipper? Possible but unlikely.
    No news on Whitehall, dropped or injured? Do the insiders know?

    #324746
    SouthYorksIronSouthYorksIron
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    Whitehall ill, according to Butler’s post-match interview on Humberside.

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    #324748
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    Campbell

    Starbuck Barrows Belhouan Denton

    Smith Richards Rowley Jones

    Whitehall Hurst.

    After X minutes: Gale, Parker, Butterfield, Rose (if fit) Shipstone.

    Could start with Evans and Howe bros if needs be. I forget what the silly rule is regarding players who started the last league game.

    #324750
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    The manager doesn’t need confusing any more than he is on his best line up at the moment, just a small tinker with his starting line up from yesterday certainly till 60 mins then wholesale changes with those who haven’t had any game time.

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    #324757
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    Exactly AWG I don’t buy this he doesn’t know his best 11.
    He should know his best 11!!

    Can anyone confidently say we have built on last season success with the players brought in? And that we have a larger squad than last season

    Surely 1 or 2 players less would have been better so that we could have recruited a better class of player to replace Roberts & Co.
    Just seems we’ve just cluttered the changing room.

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    #324762
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    Not having 5 right backs would have been a good place to start.

    We replaced Roberts (a right winger) with Brennan (a left winger) when we already have Jones for the left. Westbrooke replaced with Richards who looks completely lost. Ewing replaced with Butterfield who has quality but probably can’t last 90 mins.

    The only upgrade is Howe replacing Boyce.

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    #324763
    cassidystashcassidystash
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    I’d start Richards, Ogle, Gale & Horton on Tuesday as the 4 from previous Saturday and let them play the 90 because I wouldn’t start them at Eastleigh.
    Campbell, Rose, Smith, Hurst, Parker, JB & Starbuck surely have to be given a chance to claim a starting place. Minutes for Whitehall, Denton, Rowley, Beestin & Barrows should do the job and give Butler a better idea of his best XI.

    #324769
    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
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    How many left hookers are there in the squad?

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    I’d start Parker from the off to see what he’s about alongside Beestin. I can’t see Butler risking Whitehall for anymore than 10/15 minutes. Give another chance to Richards alongside Rose “if deemed fit enough” and then bring Rowley on. Hurst and Smith out wide, again to get them up to speed. Ogle looked miles off it against Southend so I’d give him more game time.

    JB needs minutes. I’d start him at CB. Starbuck out of position at LB just to give him much needed game time. Probably will start Horton though. Starbuck is arguably the best RB at the club, especially now Butler see’s Rose as more of a CM player. Going by the evidence so far, we’ll be needing him next to Rowley in midfield.

    Not convinced by Richards, so be interesting to see if he’s as limited as I believe he is.

    These suggestions are based on the chances Butler may be struck by lightening before the game and suddenly changes tack to a 4/4/2 formation.

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    #324885
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    Interesting line up?
    No Smith
    No Whitehall
    No wide men
    4-2-2-2?

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    #324887
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    Speculate all you want one line ups but Butler is arrogant and more clueless ..

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    #324891
    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    And Parkers off the mark well done young man.

    #324893
    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    Wide man Kyle Hurst with the cross?

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    Yep, took a wicked deflection up into the air but Parker’s header to steer it goalwards was pretty impressive. He’s done naff all other than that mind!

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    #324907
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    Speculate all you want one line ups but Butler is arrogant and more clueless ..

    Butler had brainwave at half time tonight.

    He moved the right back who had been playing left back over to right back.

    He moved the left back who had been playing centre back over to left back.

    He moved the centre back who had been playing right back to centre back.

    He left the centre back who played at centre back at centre back fo what I think may have been his first full 90 minutes in his actual position. Mind you he’s only been with us a year.

    Strangely the kids from Stoke who pretty much dominated the first half only created one decent chance in the second half allowing the Iron to wrap the game up.

    I have to ask why the feck he started with 3 of his back 4 out of position?
    Does he pick the team using a dice?

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    #324913
    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
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    Parker’s header to steer it goalwards was pretty impressive.

    He’s done naff all other than that mind!

    Does he look like there may be a player in there?

    Touch, pace, technical ability, game understanding, guile / spatial awareness etc.

    #324914
    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
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    Speculate all you want one line ups but Butler is arrogant and more clueless ..

    I have to ask why the feck he started with 3 of his back 4 out of position?

    Does he pick the team using a dice?

    Magic Robot picks the team :-)

    #324915
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    Speculate all you want one line ups but Butler is arrogant and more clueless ..

    I have to ask why the feck he started with 3 of his back 4 out of position?

    Does he pick the team using a dice?

    Magic Robot picks the team :-)

    It’s a well known fact that the team is picked using Tarot cards.

    Don’t blame Butler, blame neo-occulltism.

    Our luck will change and things will come together half way through September.

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    #324916
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    Tarot cards? He could do worse than use modern, up-to-date methods like asking ChatGPT. I asked:

    “What would be Scunthorpe United’s best team for this Saturday at Eastleigh?”

    And the cyber guru came up with the following:

    “Yes. I’ve checked the latest 2026/27 team news and results, and Scunthorpe’s next match is Eastleigh away on Saturday 22 August, 12:30pm.
    The key thing is that Andy Butler made nine changes for Tuesday’s 4–0 win over Stoke U21s, so I wouldn’t use that XI as the basis for Saturday. The previous Saturday against Southend gives us a much better indication of his preferred league side.

    My best XI for Eastleigh
    4-3-3

    Louis Jones

    Ross Barrows Callum Howe Will Evans Branden Horton

    Jordan Richards Jacob Butterfield
    Alfie Beestin

    Pat Jones Declan Howe James Gale

    Why I’d go with this:

    GK – Louis Jones
    Easy choice. He started the first two league matches and was excellent despite the 1–0 defeat at Southend.

    Defence – Barrows, C. Howe, Evans, Horton

    I’d restore Ross Barrows at right-back after he was rested against Stoke. Will Evans should retain his place centrally, while Branden Horton has established himself at left-back after replacing the injured Tyler Denton at Southend.

    The interesting decision is Callum Howe vs Jean Belehouan at centre-back. I’d slightly favour Howe for an away league game, although Belehouan is a very good alternative.

    Midfield – Richards, Butterfield, Beestin
    This is where I think Scunthorpe could improve considerably.
    • Jacob Butterfield gives you experience and control.
    • Alfie Beestin provides energy and attacking quality.
    • Jordan Richards looked trusted enough to start at Southend and gives the midfield some athleticism.
    Butterfield was introduced at half-time against Southend and then played in Tuesday’s cup game, so he should be ready for Saturday.

    Front three – Pat Jones, Declan Howe, James Gale
    This would be my preferred attacking trio.
    Pat Jones is probably the most dangerous player in the squad when running at defenders. He had one of Scunthorpe’s better opportunities at Southend and was involved in their attacking threat.
    Declan Howe should lead the line. He started against Southend and had a couple of opportunities, including narrowly missing a cross from Jones.
    And I’d give James Gale another start. He made his first start of the season at Southend and then scored twice after coming off the bench against Stoke, which is about as strong an argument as you can make for keeping your place.

    Bench
    I’d probably have:
    Campbell, Belehouan, Rowley, Hurst, Brennan, Parker, Barrows/Shipstone
    with Kyle Hurst particularly useful as an impact substitute. He started Tuesday and contributed to the opening goal.

    One big selection question:
    For me, the biggest question is Butterfield vs Rowley.
    If Butler wants more energy and pressing, I’d start Rowley. If he wants experience and control away from home, I’d choose Butterfield.
    I’d personally go Butterfield, because Eastleigh away could be a game where Scunthorpe need someone who can slow the game down and dictate possession.

    So my strongest XI is:
    Jones; Barrows, C. Howe, Evans, Horton; Richards, Butterfield, Beestin; P. Jones, D. Howe, Gale.
    That would be my team as things stand on Wednesday morning, rather than claiming it’s Butler’s confirmed XI. The club hasn’t yet published Saturday’s team news.”

    Maybe the club should give GPT a job (other types of AI are available).

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    Even Butler probably spotted that Barrows was not rested against Stoke.

    Perhaps that’s why Butler likes to play people out of position. Confusing the AI scouts must be giving us a massive advantage.

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    #324922
    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
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    Speculate all you want one line ups but Butler is arrogant and more clueless ..

    I have to ask why the feck he started with 3 of his back 4 out of position?

    Does he pick the team using a dice?

    Magic Robot picks the team :-)

    It’s a well known fact that the team is picked using Tarot cards.

    Don’t blame Butler, blame neo-occulltism.

    Our luck will change and things will come together half way through September.

    Do the cards reveal any particular year?

    #324923
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    I thought Butterfield looked a bit poor to average at best against Stoke (on his own terms, I mean), and in the other games he’s made appearances he’s not had the anticipated level of impact. He’s not a patch on what he was in terms of creativity, and his passing has been off the mark more than half of the time. After seeing him play against us away at Gateshead, I wondered what Butler was doing signing him in the summer (other than accidentally lining up the next manager for when he gets fired this season following a run of seven or eight poor results).

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    #324924
    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
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    Campbell
    Starbuck Howe Evans Horton
    Jones Rowley Butterfield Beestin
    Howe Gale

    #324925
    cassidystashcassidystash
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    Not bad.
    Can you leave out Jones after MOM last week?
    Will Whitehall be fit?
    Can Gale do it from the start?
    Has last night confused Butler even more?
    Will he continue to resist 4-4-2?

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    Not bad.
    Can you leave out Jones after MOM last week?
    Will Whitehall be fit?
    Can Gale do it from the start?
    Has last night confused Butler even more?
    Will he continue to resist 4-4-2?

    I thought both Parker and Gale (last night against Stoke) showed Butler that there is a solution to the lack of spark up front. They both ‘wanted it’.

    #324928
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    Parker, Gayle or Howe offer more movement than Whitehall.

    None of them have ever scored 20 goals in a season at National League level or as yet looked like doing it.

    Whitehall has done it multiple times so when fit he will be and must be first choice.

    However, according to an earlier post he has just gone a almost a third of a season without scoring at all in a fairly successful team. The clock is ticking. I would think he has half a dozen games to give some compelling evidence you he is still a 20 goal a season man. Without that he offers very little to the team in a key role given his lack of pace, movement and inability to hold up the ball.

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    Although we say that AB neither knows his best XI or best formation, I don’t think there is consensus on Bru either. That said, this is a forum for healthy debate and contributors teams always provide me with food for thought. Gale and Parker played together may provide us with a bit of beef to get something from the hoofs forward. Howe could exploit the confusion they cause, but then again, Pat Jones could create. Butterfield can pass a ball and should play for that reason alone. Rowley offers a press and Ollie Rose is coming into the equation. To me, Alfie Beestin offers more of a threat from the bench. I’m not going to dissect the back 5. No pace, so unless we are contemplating playing Starbuck, JB and Denton, it’ll be the usual suspects playing deep. My team FWIW:
    L Jones
    Barrows C Howe Evans Horton
    Rose Butterfield Rowley
    Gale Parker P Jones

    Beestin to come on for the tiring Butterfield.
    Howe to replace Gale or Parker, Brennan for Jones.

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    Parker, Gayle or Howe offer more movement than Whitehall.

    None of them have ever scored 20 goals in a season at National League level or as yet looked like doing it.

    Whitehall has done it multiple times so when fit he will be and must be first choice.

    However, according to an earlier post he has just gone a almost a third of a season without scoring at all in a fairly successful team. The clock is ticking. I would think he has half a dozen games to give some compelling evidence you he is still a 20 goal a season man. Without that he offers very little to the team in a key role given his lack of pace, movement and inability to hold up the ball.

    Yes, it feels like it’s crunch time for Danny Whitehall.

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    L Jones
    ‘Barrows C Howe Evans Horton
    Rose Butterfield Rowley
    Gale Parker P Jones

    Beestin to come on for the tiring Butterfield.
    Howe to replace Gale or Parker, Brennan for Jones.’

    I like this a lot, apart from Barrows.

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    L Jones
    ‘Barrows C Howe Evans Horton
    Rose Butterfield Rowley
    Gale Parker P Jones

    Beestin to come on for the tiring Butterfield.
    Howe to replace Gale or Parker, Brennan for Jones.’

    I like this a lot, apart from Barrows.

    Barrows was decent last night.

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