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Horton is too, isn’t he?

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cassidystash wrote:

Better than Shep!!!!! You must be a youngster.

Hardly.

I just think Ollie Turner is better than we’ve ever had – a decent commentator, clearly does his homework, and after a match is not afraid to ask potentially very difficult questions.

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Deereyme66 wrote:

Can’t beat Ollie and Torps mind. The real deal.

The best ever Scunthorpe commentator on RH, imho. Pairing with Adkins for the Yeovil match was fantastic.

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Flounce Iron.

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Awaywego wrote:

Maybe just maybe the trust were busy stopping Swanny selling up the ground by applying a community asset to it, giving time for new owner to come in.

No other group than the trust was allowed to do it even though they had no money to buy the ground.
All very nice helping pay the players and it was a nice gesture by one and all, but without the ground we were no more.
Paying players in full during the furlough, while everyone else was on 60% of their wages cost the club dearly with the EFL loan Swanny took out, so let’s have the priorities right.
The trust did what was necessary at the time and we should be thankfully for that.

I agree that we should be thankful.

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saleiron wrote:

Okay, even if we accept that your point (which I don’t btw), what about contributing to the costs of Ross Barrows’ post surgery rehabilitation as well as leading the support for the Iron Bru initiated fundraising at what was a parlous time in the club’s history? Others will be able remind us of past contributions, but it hasn’t all been in return for shares-for which the club still receives a tidy cash injection.

Agreed.

I don’t quite recall the Trust “leading the support for the Iron Bru initiated fundraising at what was a parlous time in the club’s history”, though. What I recall is Bru and Iron Hour teaming up to push it.

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Take the latest on the Official web page, couple of pages on praise for the Irish irons £500 donation towards the pitch fund, did the trust get as much praise for their £13,000 share purchase.
Isn’t that a clear indication where the club is.

Buying shares is not a donation, so to be fair to the club, why should they make a song and dance about it?

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On recent form, which I expect to continue this weekend and perhaps longer, and projecting ahead a little, I have a sneaking feeling we might slip out of the play-off spots, with not quite enough games to claw our way back in. Anyone else starting to feel this way?

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Excellent post. I’ll add that, in my opinion, bearing in mind the stubbornness of the manager, the damage is already irreversibly done for this season.

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Awaywego wrote:

No it’s a business, if it was Michelle and co would have no problem with selling on as many shares as were wanted by anyone

For the last 18 months they have been selling shares to those who want them, including approx 13k worth to the Iron Trust.

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Awaywego wrote:

No it’s a business, if it was Michelle and co would have no problem with selling on as many shares as were wanted by anyone.
Community institutions can’t be taken over by an individual, they produce business accounts because it’s a Business.
4 directors make all the decisions, and we have no say In the running of the club whatsoever.

You have very narrow vision.

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One thing is certain you cannot continually run a business by asking for hand outs from your customers or in our case fans.

It’s not a business, it’s a community institution that, by operational necessity, has to have an element of being run like a business… And supporters of a club our size have to realise that the price they ought to pay for being a supporter, to keep the club afloat and alive, is way more than the cost of tickets.

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… since incoming player announcement on 2.5 year deal the lads seem to have lost motivation.

That seems plausible.

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Sharp_Shooter24 wrote:

Shame because he was becoming a bit of a cult

He’s one letter change away in the above sentence from becoming something else>

A Celt?

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You have to wonder whether there is much more to the Howe story than has been let on – and whether general morale / motivation has dipped due to that.

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This performance is, so far, arguably worse than against Boston.

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Awaywego wrote:

It’s a business. So fans give money with nothing coming back, Sharp and others put money in and want every penny back, which is there stated position at the moment, plus you were happy for it to be a business when it came to ticket prices especially when one of ours on here was as he saw it priced out of the box his family had for years.
No1 ok up to a point but as soon as they include Dave it’s wrong, plenty putting in a lot more than him all the volunteers for one.
No2 if the club can’t afford the running costs on the back of the gates there’s something seriously wrong, I mean they’re only running one team no ladies, academy, under 18s or schoolboy teams which most teams have even in lower divisions than ours.

It’s not a business. It’s a community institution which has to have an element of being run as a business.

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TheJuryeffsOut wrote:

But if someone with a lot of money comes in then the existing directors (who I applaud and thank wholeheartedly for everything) will add up what they’ve put in and hope to get a return on it. Suddenly it will fully be a business again …..

So enjoy it not being like that while it lasts? Do your bit, etc.

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Is Aldershot ABs Marine game, that allegedly he was close to the sack if he lost that

It’d be ridiculous to get rid of Butler at this stage. We’ve vastly exceeded expectations for the season and are just on a poor run at the moment – in fact, we have one every season. It’ll come right soon enough, Hopefully from Tuesday, but that’s doubtful.

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The Howe situation seems to me like it might have been downplayed by Butler to the media. I get the feeling there might have been a bust-up. Is that just me, or does anyone else get that vibe?

As an aside, I disagree about Scales. Good-hearted and all that, but woeful passing.

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I should add, I applaud the sentiment but I don’t particularly like the set-up of this Pounds For The Pitch thing as it stands.

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SUFC is a business and IMO has had more than enough charitable assistance over the last few years

It’s not a business, though, is it? It’s a longstanding community / social institution that, by necessity, has to have an element of being run as a business to function day to day / stay alive longer term.

If it IS only a business then you / we are merely customers – and I don’t think you or many others would really consider themselves that. In fact, I’d wager most would be insulted by that.

In my opinion, we all have some responsibility and we all have to accept the blurred lines a bit. It’s not “charity” as that suggests a slight disconnection from the club. It’s ‘what it takes to keep it going’ sometimes, and when it’s those times we all have to put in a little bit more than just simple purchases (tickets) if we can. Not necessarily money, but (for instance) the volunteering.

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Truthfully, I’m not too concerned by the result today, disappointing as the performance was. You show me a side that doesn’t get properly turned over a couple of times a season. Could be a very valuable ‘lesson’ – a bit of a wake-up call at just the right time. Let’s see how they go, how much fight they’ve got, against Rochdale on Tuesday.

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Denton has been off it for weeks. Starbuck has joined him. Evans was run ragged today.

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Rub of the green and refereeing decisions and that’s a 4-2 win for us, imho.

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Always found him a really decent fella in my few dealings with him, level-headed.

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What does Hurst add that Howe didn’t?

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In recent months we’ve had James Moody repeatedly raising the issue of the concrete wall around the pitch and how, for safety reasons, and sooner rather than later, it’s going to have to go. Michelle also mentioned the intention to replace it, during her lengthy recent interview with Ollie T on the BBC.

Today, Whitehall recklessly endangered an opposition player by clattering into him from behind, right on the touchline, sending him flying. A slight twist of fate here or there and that could have been really nasty. The worst side of DW, imho.

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Deereyme66 wrote:

I’d expect Smith to score double what Howe would have given how many fans greeted his return like the second coming.

He nearly got off the mark against Horsham with something quite spectacular.

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Iron-awe wrote:

He’s a young man with a young family and as we all know there are plenty of of sleepless nights with young families, give the guy a break.

That’s fair enough. I didn’t know he had a young family, but I do know that can be a tiring time.

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