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SODIron wrote:

Southampton broke the following EFL regulations (note: #127 was brought in specifically following the previous Leeds United / Marcelo Bielsa spying debacle).

EFL Regulation 3.4: the duty for clubs to act towards each other with ‘utmost good faith’.
EFL Regulation 127: the rule that prohibits a club from observing, or attempting to observe, another club’s training session within 72 hours of a scheduled match between the two clubs.

These are both very serious things to breach.

It’s not just the knock-out bit (the play offs), though, that they’ve sullied. They’ve made a mockery of the final Championship table. It is highly improbable that their spying (and therefore also their shitting on the idea of ‘utmost good faith’ towards other clubs) was restricted to the Oxford and Ipswich league matches. There’s just no way you can give them reasonable benefit of the doubt bearing in mind the admitted breaches.

In my opinion, they should finish this particular season on a punitive 0 points (as Sheffield Wednesday did), and everyone else moves up a place in the final table. Therefore Wrexham should be allowed their shot in the play offs, however that could work logistically.

There would even be a case to say that Southampton should be put out of the whole EFL, imho. You can’t have clubs doing this and getting away with a little slap on the wrist. Make them sit on the naughty step and think about what they’ve done, and then start again / try again / rebuild trust with the wider football community (the sum of which, in their case, would mean taking the punishment as a cleaning of the slate, and attempting in good faith to attain EFL status).

Some would say that would unduly punish the fans – but would it? The fanbase would generally take care of itself, I think. There would be those who would be angry and bitter, but any drop off in Southampton supporter numbers would be the club’s fault, and their issue to address. You support whatever happens – you don’t care less because your team is in a lower league (as we very well know).

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I have absolutely zero confidence in this. Are they not just repeating the pitch seeding process of the last couple of seasons, but a mere couple of weeks earlier?

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Ironawe wrote:

If we don’t get an experienced keeper we’ll have the same pantomime we had last season with 4 keepers each dropping clangers. I too am surprised we’ve kept barrows who isn’t great. Hopefully Campbell gets a season long loan in NLN that’s his level atm.

Jones pulled off several great saves in the (very) latter part of the season – I think he’s better than is being made out. I certainly have a reasonable amount of confidence in him, which I did not have in any of the other 25 who played for the Iron this last season.

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open hearth iron, mistertonmick, Ironawe, lesgeo, IronIronIron, billpuntonsghost, alcazar, iron64, Scunnytim

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It’s a gentle evolution of last season’s squad – with, perhaps, a little bit of pain to come (Roberts and Ewing). I’d have expected a slightly more significant change if we had succeeded in the play-offs and stepped up a league.

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FFS. Scunny Bunny is the absolute epitome of our tinpotness.

Should have gone with a tongue, the Scunnylingus.

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alcazar

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RedMistTorpsFist wrote:

FFS. Scunny Bunny is the absolute epitome of our tinpotness.

Should have gone with a large tongue, the Scunnylingus.

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WonderGoals wrote:

1) An experienced, dependable Gk on a perm contract.

2) A natural CB to play alongside Evans.

3) A striker to rival Whitehall. A proper effective alternative.

3) Looks like Roberts is on his way with his post match reaction. A good replacement for him, not a direct one though of course due to budget restraints. Luke Brennan looked good last season for Buxton. Probably the kind of market we’ll be in.

4) Ewing will be off. So a good alternative needed.

5) Westbrook on a perm contract ?

More than rival Whitehall, imho. We need to be signing a striker fitter, stronger, faster and smarter than Whitehall, who makes him fight for his place on the teamsheet.

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Or perhaps not!

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iron64 wrote:

The club do need to explain how we have got to this mess, what did our club do to prevent it?
A season ticket holder should have been given the opportunity to buy a ticket. To log on at the appropriate time and there be none available is to deny a perk of buying a season ticket. Perhaps they should take it off as a reason to buy one!?
The number of tickets you could buy should have been set so if every season ticket holder bought their allocated number there would be say 10/20% left for general sale. As it is either us, Rochdale, the league who’s game this is or all 3 do appear to have shafted the fans.

When I bought mine, I’m pretty sure there was a block of seats (maybe two blocks?) in that stand that were greyed out, so unavailable. Perhaps they will be made available?

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… or those aged or vulnerable ones not able to use them

The price of living in the digital world: If you don’t join in you’re dead.

Somehow, provision should be made for these people. I don’t know what that would look like in the real world, but imho it is unfair otherwise.

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The only people I really feel sorry for are the ST who missed out due to not receiving the link and code

Not everything shit that happens is the club’s fault!

Read the social media post wording carefully:

Season ticket holders who have registered their account on FanBase will receive communication of a link and password to access the allocation to purchase tickets from 6pm.

So, to be fair to the club, I think they have on numerous occasions told people to link their ST and the Fanbase app for these ticket comms to work. Perhaps those who didn’t receive the Rochdale link failed to link ST to the app.

Or, perhaps it’s an email issue and they have incorrect spam filter settings, or there’s some time lag on delivery etc?

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64 wrote:

“What do all you Marxists on here make of this greed?”
I can’t speak for any Marxists but can categorically state it’s Capitalism working as it’s designed to. Create a demand then put up the price.
Remember ho we’re told in our services how capitalism will drive down prices due to competition? They put up prices when supply is low and demand is high then put them up again when demand is low as it effects profits. Look at how Phone companies reacted to leaving the protection of the EU we had ,once BT/EE jumped on the roaming bandwagon they nearly all followed suit to screw us over.I am sure the right loved it

A fortnight ago I bought two packets of sesame snaps from a well-known supermarket. 32p each. Last week I bought two packets of sesame snaps from the same well-known supermarket. 55p each.

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I’m a season ticket holder and was able to get tickets – but I bought only what I needed, not the six available. It does seem a bit excessive that approx 400 fans could wipe out the entire allocation.

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saleiron wrote:

It’s the right decision, but he could have found any number of other ways of responding in a more professional way.

I didn’t think it was unprofessional.

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Max Bell must have spent the last two years wondering where the club could be if the board hadn’t lacked ambition and gone for the cheap option.

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The UG members do appear Positively Royston Vasey ESK.. are they local ??? this is a local club for local people we’ll have no strangers here !!

It’s a shit business.

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64 wrote:

Play nicely, we’re all a bit older and wiser

I think the Old farts on here have got worse

Positivity only, please…

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alcazar wrote:

Whether it’s down to his pre match intake of alcohol or he’s just a nasty person it’s time he addressed his anger issues.

This is so presumptuous as to be laughable.

He may have meant Butler!

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alcazar

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I’d suggest we’re a reasonable team of honest toilers, but lack ‘that certain something’…

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It’s minging.

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What does heated exchange mean? Has the fan been banned for swearing at Butler? Has Butler been reprimanded for reciprocal abuse?

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64 wrote:

Not sure Scales brings much

I thought everything about him was good except the final action of each move. In other words he’d scrap and get the ball back then give it away with a bad pass, or he’d burst past defenders into the area and then scuff his shot out for a goal kick, or he’d make an incisive run from deep and smack a 25-yard shot into the stands etc etc etc

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ironking

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Rowley.

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Two truly terrible away performances this season – Solihull Moors and Gateshead. The latter the worst by a country mile.

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Awaywego wrote:

Was that you Bhuna who got kicked out for having words with Butler.

There’s plenty of footage of this on Gareth’s new video.

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cassidystash wrote:

Look, he might be a bit of a narcissist and not everybody’s cup of tea but he’s promoting and helping our club. Give him a break and embrace his positivity.

“Look, he might be a bit of a narcissist and not everybody’s cup of tea but give him a break.”

Fixed it for you.

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Awaywego wrote:

Just like that kind of stuff got rid of Swanny and Hilton too.

Not trying to get rid but I’m hardly bothered wether they’re here or not.

But I’m sure you can say it’s not what most of you wanted when the majority of fans wanted rid of Swanny, change was the order of the day and it’s just not happened.

The model appears to be the same debt debt and more debt.

The “change” may have been vibe.

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I suspect that what Michelle meant was that external creditors have largely been paid off.

… or that agreements to pay on instalments have been agreed and are in process and therefore can be creatively accounted.

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64 wrote:

No matter what I think of how the Unity group especially how those who launched it attacked fans causing people to get death threats,I believe his history staring point works nicely to ignore what IronHour and unity group members did to Iron fans during the Hilton era.They fired the 1st shots so to speak.

There’s certainly seems to have been a lack of accountability for some really poor behaviour, some of which had real world consequences for some people. Whether the behaviour was deliberate or just careless, who knows? I suspect the former. Whichever way, though, I haven’t seen any acknowledgement or apology. I suspect, a couple of years on, there never will be any. A shame. For those who were able to see it, it demeans the value or standing of “those what done it”.

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64 wrote:

No matter what I think of how the Unity group especially how those who launched it attacked fans causing people to get death threats,I believe his history staring point works nicely to ignore what IronHour and unity group members did to Iron fans during the Hilton era.They fired the 1st shots so to speak.Rob himself has fronted up ,he’s not hidden,I sadly suspect that certain trust board members are hiding behind pseudonym to fuel this fire on various platforms
I’m a proud trust member and concerned about this,it’s beneath the trust in my
opinion .
As for Comedy Dave, he chose to make himself a public figure by courting publicity ,he also slighted long term fans .That said I think he got too much scorn poured on him and suffered by being caught in the crossfire .I’ve had a couple of days to digest his cancer comment and I sill find it a bad comment,his bitterness is understandable.
As for Truro,I find it an amusing aside to torment people who hurt my friends in the Hilton era.Fair game.
The drum really did bother me at Halifax,I am quite sensitive to noise and sometimes cannot filter them out,It’s easier at GP at it tends to have poor accoustics but at Halifax it made me very uncomfortable and low frequency sounds like drums are the worst for me .It’s not being ” miserable old lefty” as the thug site suggests,it’s a genuine issue

Loop earplugs are wonderful things. I’ve got two or three sets for different situations – crowds, gigs, industrial etc etc etc.

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