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  • in reply to: Smith. #324929
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    Difficult time for him and his partner – new baby, early days of parenting a second child, probably no family support due to location…

    in reply to: Next Week #324926
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    Not bad.
    Can you leave out Jones after MOM last week?
    Will Whitehall be fit?
    Can Gale do it from the start?
    Has last night confused Butler even more?
    Will he continue to resist 4-4-2?

    I thought both Parker and Gale (last night against Stoke) showed Butler that there is a solution to the lack of spark up front. They both ‘wanted it’.

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    I thought Butterfield looked a bit poor to average at best against Stoke (on his own terms, I mean), and in the other games he’s made appearances he’s not had the anticipated level of impact. He’s not a patch on what he was in terms of creativity, and his passing has been off the mark more than half of the time. After seeing him play against us away at Gateshead, I wondered what Butler was doing signing him in the summer (other than accidentally lining up the next manager for when he gets fired this season following a run of seven or eight poor results).

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    in reply to: Time to go #324921
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    Not sure what’s going on with positivity Dave, but he spawned out of nowhere on Gareth’s post match reactions. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he’s not a club plant of some sort. In my opinion he’s too cringy not to be.

    Why would the club “plant” a happy clapper?

    Makes no sense.

    Makes perfect sense. What best type of person to give limelight to, than a unshameful happy clapper who praises the club at every opportunity ?. I’m sure Butler in an interveiw mentioned positivity Dave in glowing terms. I just find it odd that he appears out of nowhere on Gareth’s post match interviews when he himself is deeply imbedded in the club.

    I could just be overly suspicious, but just seems a bit strange. Did he even attend games before spawning in on Gareth’s post match videos ?

    Even if he has independently appeared, of his own accord, his ingratiation techniques and social climbing to a position of public repute have been a bit much to stomach, for some people.

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    IMO the ‘toxic’ label is an urban myth or untruth created by a small number of people who took their ball home / didn’t like being criticised and it’s stuck without much credible substantial evidence because it’s convenient and sounds good, in today’s love or hate world.

    Completely agree with this. ‘Bru toxicity’ is a handy phrase used to dismiss opinion contrary to the common denominator / positivity guff churned out elsewhere. Most often used by the hard of thinking, it has been peddled by the likes of Max Bell, the cult page, etc.

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    in reply to: Southend United #324676
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    Watching on TV. It’s like Rochdale away in the play-offs this.

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    in reply to: Souvenir Teamsheet #324593
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    Simon Elliott? He left the Board (last time) quickly and quietly, and hasn’t been seen at a game since-to the best of my knowledge. Very strange.

    Seems likely to have been under a cloud as he’s been so noticeably quiet on United. Whatever the situation, in the past, there was just no stopping him repeatedly flashing his credentials.

    in reply to: National League Cup #324558
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    According to our number 1 fan, there are some “cracking fixtures” in this competition and we should “get behind The Boys.” And here’s me thinking it’s a waste of time.

    To be fair, there WAS a cracking fixtures in this competition last year – the 3-2 win over Middlesbrough. Declan Howe’s best goal (so far) for Scunthorpe, one from Sellars-Fleming and a really well-taken effort from – ladies, cool yourselves – Mark Beck.

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    Not even the DRE?

    United are only opening the Threadgold stand for the NL Cup fixtures.

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    Not sure it has been publicly announced (it may have been, though?) but some people might be interested. United are only opening the Threadgold stand for the NL Cup fixtures.

    in reply to: Iron Trust latest #324463
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    The Trust are now saying they are going to consult with members about any future fund raising. It’s a bit late for that as they have already put £500 of the Trusts money into the Go Fund Me without any consultation.
    Come to that they never consulted with members about the hair brained scheme in the first place
    The fact they have raised around £3600 out of a target of £50 k shows just what a stupid idea this was from the start.

    The wording of the latest email is interesting. I think they realise they messed up and are either

    i) genuinely trying to put things right, or

    ii) setting up the necessary apparently independent body so that those within the Trust who unilaterally launched the funder can co-opt that new body (as apparent independents) and continue the agenda with the Trust itself being distanced from scrutiny / criticism.

    in reply to: Iron Trust latest #324449
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    Quango ahoy!

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    what a load of nonsense. This is a trust project to try and now claim otherwise is lying. The claim to fund raising being separated is flawed .as the money raised from the Garcia shirt was what they were relying on for the £500 donation .
    I asked them to cancel my membership yesterday and remove me from the mailing list, I still received this self serving hindsight written backsliding .Memorial gardens take a lot of upkeep and will require lots of money and time. I guess instead of laying a wreath at “Keegan’s feet we can now do it at Keegan’s rhododendron.

    The Kevin Keegan Clematis

    in reply to: Iron Trust latest #324442
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    It also means that if there is going to be a memorial of any kind, at least control will be wrestled away from the Trust and handed to people with calm heads and reasonable taste.

    We might not end up with

    LIVE
    LAUGH
    LOVE IT, LOVE IT

    Although, of course, we also might. But this shift does represent an opportunity.

    in reply to: Iron Trust latest #324439
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    This is worth a read. Looks like there is now a move to separate the memorial fundraiser from the Trust’s core objectives and, perhaps, by implication, that there has been some mission creep recently.

    https://www.theirontrust.com/open-invitation-to-form-an-independent-kk-memorial-and-memorial-garden-steering-group/

    As I said in another thread, they are clearly well aware that they slop-dropped a steaming wet one with the KK stuff, and so are now fashioning their future movement to cover their arses.

    At least they are trying to put right what they got so very wrong. It doesn’t alter the fact that someone on the Trust’s judgement is appalling.

    in reply to: Time to go #324368
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    im thinking Gale n Howe would be a better strike force option than Whall who must be in his last season here

    Will he make it to the end of the season or will he be gone before then (January, say)?

    Butler recently said something along the lines of “no-one gets picked to be in the side just because of who they are”, and yet without fail Whitehall is in. At least TRY something else for a two or three game run and see what happens..? The floodgates might open, the course of our destiny might change…

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    in reply to: Kevin Keegan Tribute #324364
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    Give the money back?
    Have a rethink?
    Put it to a vote?
    Stand down their positions?
    Bin Face for El Presidente?

    Prediction: The organisation will pale into further irrelevance (other than the share ownership, which will eventually become quite a bone of contention).

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    in reply to: Yeovil Town #324339
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    Nothing disastrous about yesterday’s performance but nothing inspiring either.

    I expect most of the matches this season to be variations on yesterday’s theme.

    in reply to: Kevin Keegan Tribute #324337
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    Well that’s cleared that up. According to the latest Trust News letter it was calls from Members requesting they set up a fund
    Would that be Committee Members or ordinary Members ?

    Not one person I spoke to today believes this explanation.

    Same here. No-one believes it.

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    Are we saying Whitehall’s “race is run” with United?

    in reply to: Time to go #324333
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    I’m not driving over from Sheffield for the Stoke game.
    Any TV anywhere? – No. Probably not.
    Commentary would be nice though.

    I think last year the four games were live-streamed – though I might be wrong.

    Edit to add: As mentioned in a reply above.

    in reply to: Kevin Keegan Tribute #324228
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    The Trust’s work on securing the stadium was very much based on good judgement as well as a lot of time. Even if you don’t agree with the current KK initiative (and I don’t), it doesn’t negate all the Trust’s achievements and work over the years.

    Completely agree – but something has certainly changed in the last however many months.

    in reply to: Kevin Keegan Tribute #324213
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    Well that’s cleared that up. According to the latest Trust News letter it was calls from Members requesting they set up a fund
    Would that be Committee Members or ordinary Members ?

    To me that breezily delivered comment in the email is a face saving / arse-covering exercise after they’ve read social media comments about their conduct, and realised they’ve slop-dropped a steaming wet one.

    Even if what their email says was true, it’s seriously poor form indeed by the Trust to have not first widened their scope on the matter and put it to ALL members for comments / ideas / a vote before launching their campaign. The whole thing could have done with a lot more input and some moderate voices amidst the histrionics.

    Are we to now assume that if two, three or four members shout a request loud enough at the Trust’s top brass they will action it?

    This is not the Trust I had faith in. And, as such, as it stands I no longer have faith in it.

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    in reply to: The Pre Season So Far #324140
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    Looking at this and other threads where a Season Starting line up has been proposed, no one has advanced an argument for wingbacks, people have suggested 433, 424 or even 42121. All have looked positive and attacking. People have their favourites and different players have been suggested. I could not argue against any of the proposed line ups for they all have one thing in common, they play to our attacking strengths not try to cover our defensive weaknesses. With 100 points plus the target, that’s the way we need to play, with a “we are going to score more goals than you” attitude. I think AB will start that way on Saturday. He’ll want a high tempo game with us quickly and accurately moving the ball into the final third to whip it into the box or create a scoring opportunity from outside. From attacking set pieces he will require us to be much more of a threat. What could derail us, is lots of near misses and scraping of the woodwork, and a Yeovil keeper having a Worldie. And then, completely against the run of play, a Yeovil break out wide, a good ball into the box and a strike to take us 0-1. The reaction of the players and crowd after this will be crucial. Positivity Dave will have his hands full at that point methinks!

    Only just caught up on this thread so just read this. Absolutely agree – and, furthermore, I think there could be no finer tribute to Kevin Keegan than a season of all-out attack (the “we are going to score more goals than you” attitude mentioned).

    in reply to: Kevin Keegan Tribute #324119
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    Can I say it’s died a death.

    And now the embarrassing bit which many were concerned with, especially with it making the national news.

    The Trust probably deserves the embarrassment for taking its members for granted and jumping the gun. Making unilateral decisions, announcing fundraisers and undertaking media appearances before anyone had properly had a chance to shed a tear was seriously rubbish behaviour.

    All this is compounded by Bryan Gosling of the Trust on X claiming that: “ people need to realise that this statue is for KEVIN KEEGAN, not for the iron trust, the iron trust have just voiced this idea from its members “

    Still no answers whatsoever from the Trust on which members.

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    Can I say it’s died a death.

    And now the embarrassing bit which many were concerned with, especially with it making the national news.

    The Trust probably deserves the embarrassment for taking its members for granted and jumping the gun. Making unilateral decisions, announcing fundraisers and undertaking media appearances before anyone had properly had a chance to shed a tear was seriously rubbish behaviour.

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    Not many Steve Torpeys about, decent scoring record and assists. John Gayle didn’t score many but a couple of lads that played alongside him reaped major benefits from his presence.

    That front line (Gayle, Eyre and Forrester) was exceptional. Gayle’s importance is often overlooked when people look back to that season, though.

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    in reply to: AI football funnies #324108
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    I’ve used it so not entirely innocent myself but I find AI generated pics hugely less funny although often better executed than the old pics we used to get on here.

    Those old pictures that you mention… There’s something quite heroic and hilarious about the effort and the waste of time required for a knobhead to quickly knock something stupid together, and something inspired about how it can look daft or surreal and contain loads of wit.

    It’s not just images. If you remember those old fanzines Get A Grip Ref and Son Of A Ref from years ago, they had a sort of DIY punk / analogue ethic and were an infinite number of miles better than the ‘competent fan content’ churned out by Iron Hour, Iron Army etc these days (genuinely not slagging these off, by the way, just making an observation that they’re a digital ethic, more tech-savvy and media-savvy, and therefore more generic and quite a bit less exciting for it).

    Tech (and AI) makes everyone seem better than they are at stuff, but it also reduces everything to a bit of a porridge.

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    I understand where you are coming from Rene, and he probably won’t be the best signing AB’s made this summer, but if having him in the building makes Danny Whitehall believe that his place is not a given, then those moments in a game when he just can’t be arsed may well become fewer. If he scores zero goals in his time here with us, but DW gets 27 I’ll be happy!

    If the Chesterfield match is anything to go by, three or four minutes of it aside, DW is looking like having a quiet season ahead.

    in reply to: The Pre Season So Far #323904
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    Your takes are appreciated MKI and Apollo. Obviously defence was an achilles heel last season and needs to tighten up early doors this one.

    I’ll stop some way short of saying we looked “off it”, but there appears to be quite a bit of work to do in all departments. We made quite hard work of things at times.