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  • in reply to: The Pre Season So Far #323904
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    Your takes are appreciated MKI and Apollo. Obviously defence was an achilles heel last season and needs to tighten up early doors this one.

    I’ll stop some way short of saying we looked “off it”, but there appears to be quite a bit of work to do in all departments. We made quite hard work of things at times.

    in reply to: The Pre Season So Far #323902
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    ‘The defence looked all at odds a couple of times’.

    I’m intrigued by this point Apollo as, according to Stuart Maw, the defence looked ‘solid and composed’

    Would you say apart from those couple of times, it was okay?. Or is ‘strong and composed’ over positivity talking?

    Perhaps I am being slightly pessimistic or am harder to please? Or perhaps what Maw says is PD wristband talk?

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    in reply to: The Pre Season So Far #323887
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    After the Chesterfield game, Andy Butler has a lot of thinking to do as to his starting Squad , let alone starting XI! IMHO I think only Callum Howe, Whitehall, Evan’s and Rowley are nailed on starters, probably Pat Jones as well. The other spots are all up for grabs and will depend very much on who suits his formation. I pray it’s not 5 at the back. I’ve seen no evidence so far of decent wing back play!

    I thought Rowley had a surprisingly quiet game, didn’t seem as effective as “usual”. There wasn’t too much going on in the midfield – but I would not say Ewing was a miss, at all, nor Westbrooke. We looked good going forward when Pat Jones had his dander up. The defence looked all at odds a couple of times. Howe’s experience combined with Evans’ power could be key.

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    in reply to: OH what a circus #323885
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    I have also asked several questions to the Trust and received no answers infact been made to feel by the replies I have got that I am the only person to be complaining about what’s happened.
    The Trust seems to be top down organisation with the Members not being involved in any decisions on major issues.
    I joined the a trust to buy shares to give fans hopefully a voice in the Club not build statues that I and other Members apart from I presume the Committee knew nothing about.

    It has lost its way.

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    in reply to: OH what a circus #323884
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    I would be interested to know how many members were asked about building a statue / now down graded to a memorial prior to the go fund me was started.
    I have been a member since the beginning and I certainly was not asked my opinion.
    I have also asked several questions to the Trust and received no answers infact been made to feel by the replies I have got that I am the only person to be complaining about what’s happened.
    The Trust seems to be top down organisation with the Members not being involved in any decisions on major issues.
    I joined the a trust to buy shares to give fans hopefully a voice in the Club not build statues that I and other Members apart from I presume the Committee knew nothing about.

    I’d guess none, and that it was an arbitrary decision made during a moment of high emotion. Unacceptable.

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    in reply to: OH what a circus #323879
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    It’s been a circus run by clowns for many many years!

    If you’re talking about the Iron Trust, I can’t agree. I’ve always found it to be a fair, decent and credible organisation. Things which do appear to have suffered a bit since it ‘changed hands’.

    in reply to: Iron vs Chesterfield #323878
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    I thought we looked solid enough for NL level but a little bit ordinary, until the changes which meant Smith and Jones were on the flanks. Really impressed by Jones, could be absolutely key this season, and Smith looked leaner, fitter and sharper than last season.

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    in reply to: New shirts #323877
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    The shop staff have done the best they can with a very late delivery which has clearly not been quality checked at source.

    in reply to: New shirts #323873
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    The deal with Meyba has been a total and utter disaster. What a legacy for Matt Roberts.

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    in reply to: OH what a circus #323846
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    I have no issue with what the Trust does and has done in terms of charitable donations and associated fund-raising.

    Me neither,this is where the issue lies with the current situation,where is the line drawn? Is it drawn where we think it’s tacky for instance.I am not giving up on the trust but at the moment it feels Top Down and not member driven.
    I personally think the club treat them as something they’d rather not have around that leaves fan engagement hard.

    On reflection it might not be wide of the mark to suggest that if there is club reluctance to engage with the Iron Trust, it could be a personnel issue.

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    They’ll get it right next season though won’t they, early design voted on by the fans and a nice early release date ya nether know we might be the first for once, after all someone as to why not us.
    If we’re the first I’ll buy one myself lol.

    Word is that the 3-year Meyba deal has been ripped-up and this second year will be the last.

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    The decision to move away from Kelme was driven by the club’s desire to secure a “bespoke, community-focused kit design and a specialised terrace culture fashion range.

    Is “the decision to move away from Kelme was driven by the club’s desire to secure a bespoke, community-focused kit design and a specialised terrace culture fashion range” actually a euphemism for “Matt Roberts was trying to impress his new employers so, with an attitude of ‘f*ck loyalty’, set-up a deal away from a supplier that had actually done the club some favours when things were at their most turbulent” ..?

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    in reply to: OH what a circus #323775
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    It is completely unacceptable from the Trust it clearly isn’t Democratic.
    I’m a member and the first I heard was when they’d already started a gofundme collection, then they’ve donated £500 from Trust funds.

    Edit : they’ve donated £500 in the name of the trust, I don’t know where the money came from.

    It really boils my piss, the way the Trust has behaved. I’ve completely lost faith in it over this. You’d think with a well-known Union bloke in the mix, at the moment, there’d be some self-awareness about the importance of taking this particular (and particularly emotional) issue to the membership. It’s an absolute disgrace.

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    in reply to: Fifa World Cup #323770
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    Plus it’s my birthday and I’m really cut up know one remembered on here.

    Everyone remembered. ;-)

    in reply to: OH what a circus #323766
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    Bryan Gosling of the Trust on X claiming that: “ people need to realise that this statue is for KEVIN KEEGAN, not for the iron trust, the iron trust have just voiced this idea from its members “

    Oh really? Which members?

    If actually any, why not all?

    Been thinking more about this. It’s completely unacceptable from the Trust.

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    in reply to: Fifa World Cup #323765
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    It’s 60 years ago today when we won the world cup.

    Also, it’s 96 years today since the very first World Cup Final. Anyone on here there?

    in reply to: OH what a circus #323758
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    Elsie wasn’t a single woman, she was married and loved in the area .

    Popular then!?

    in reply to: Cult page: Doxxing #323749
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    But the Mullin wannabe is a hero because he scored a lot of goals for us? Or used to. I’d prefer him to be moved on and sign a striker with a less cynical approach to the game.

    He’s a character, good to have around the club. I like him, though his shithouse on the pitch antics do sometimes frustrate me. Particularly when it’s clear to see he’s a really good footballer. Some of the close skills and the instinct for a clever pass put him a step ahead in terms of seeing the game, and when he’s ‘on’ with those things he slightly reminds me of Hayes. He has one year left on his contract, but I don’t think he’ll be here next time round.

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    in reply to: OH what a circus #323747
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    And Portman road he lodged there as well at Mrs Nightingale’s she did the clubs kit washing as well.

    Did not know that. Do you know when and what number?

    in reply to: OH what a circus #323743
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    Not at GP given he never played there. The Baths wouldn’t make enough sense to me either. A small memorial of some kind in that vicinity might work. Not really taken with the idea of a memorial wall at GP tbh but sounds better then a statue at GP.

    Blue plaque at the site of the OSG, blue plaque on the house on King Edward Street.

    in reply to: Cult page: Doxxing #323720
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    Is there not a clear data protection issue when an admin doxes someone!?

    in reply to: OH what a circus #323718
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    This is all very unlike the Trust and how it is operated historically. I am particularly surprised that a £500 donation appears to have been made from Trust funds without prior consultation with the membership. I can only assume that this was agreed by the Trust Board.

    Bryan Gosling of the Trust on X claiming that: “ people need to realise that this statue is for KEVIN KEEGAN, not for the iron trust, the iron trust have just voiced this idea from its members “

    Oh really? Which members?

    If actually any, why not all?

    in reply to: OH what a circus #323709
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    In my opinion they ought to ask those who donate to the appeal what they want. Though I know that may not be possible due to some anonymous donors no doubt. In which case, ask the membership. Two or three options would probably suffice.

    They should have left it a couple of weeks, and then asked for opinions.

    in reply to: OH what a circus #323708
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    In my opinion they ought to ask those who donate to the appeal what they want. Though I know that may not be possible due to some anonymous donors no doubt. In which case, ask the membership. Two or three options would probably suffice.

    This would actually prevent those who may wish to donate from doing so. Why would you chuck money in blindly to get a vote, only to ‘lose the vote’ and then have to suffer something you didn’t want – and worse, contribute to the cost of it!?

    in reply to: OH what a circus #323706
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    That’s politicians for you. The Trump way, don’t consult just do what you want and don’t expect your actions to be questioned.

    I expected much much more from the custodians of the Trust. What a letdown.

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    in reply to: Cult page: Doxxing #323701
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    Very poor online etiquette, quite alarming human behaviour.

    in reply to: OH what a circus #323700
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    The trust jumped the gun when there was no need to, time for a rethink and poll their members on what they would like if anything, and with the agreement that is acceptable to the club on their land or property.
    Still in favour of Keegan’s bar and a simple memorial for all somewhere.

    Completely agree the Trust have jumped the gun with this. Not how you would expect the organisation to behave, with the bigwigs forcing the statue idea with fait accompli announcements and radio appearances. Gozza and co riding roughshod over their membership.

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    in reply to: SUFC v MUFC – LEGENDS MATCH #323654
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    What do:-
    Butler, Wilcox, Hope, Mirfin & Nelson have in common!!

    Odd shaped heads?

    in reply to: OH what a circus #323653
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    I see this post has ruffled some feathers in the FB group. Fansy is a wanted man!

    This thread is all about getting us to look at the cult page anyway, 64 the Double Agent

    It’s more about a Radio interview and this need we have to be seen to do something. My main Ire wise with the trust as it’s survival and good name are massively important to us all. The Doxxing oddball who runs the Facebook group has copy and pasted it to cause a row

    How could anyone partaking in the Facebook page reasonably consider themselves ‘safe’ from that kind of behaviour? There’s no way the person who doxxed another should be an admin of anything. Really out of order, and completely undermines the credibility of that entire page – though it doesn’t have much anyway as it seems to be a bit of a lawless place.

    in reply to: The first ten games #323601
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