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March 30, 2026 at 7:04 pm #318616
Headlines at link. Full accounts posted tomorrow. Shareholders’ AGM to take place “in April.”
March 30, 2026 at 7:14 pm #318621Not the full accounts just small company ones. Though if your a shareholder I believe you get a set of full accounts.
Nothing on the cods accounts published today worthy of note, other than the loss, nothing about how many players to non playing staff there are or the amount paid.
Or amount of new loans if there was any.March 30, 2026 at 7:35 pm #318632Whilst the loss isn’t great I think it’s clear they are on the right path and with legacy issues being put to bed in the future I think the club have done extremely well to get to this position.
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March 31, 2026 at 12:16 pm #318676Whilst the loss isn’t great I think it’s clear they are on the right path and with legacy issues being put to bed in the future I think the club have done extremely well to get to this position.
As IRONAWE says we seem to be on the right path with the board indication that the loss will almost halve for 25/26. Then followed by further reduction the season after with prudent control.
So further off field fundraising must continue and if possible increase to give fans different options to choose from and different levels of financial support on top of ticket money.
Gain promotion at the end of this season then our league donation would increase but it should not then be frittered away, we still have debts to clear. So good luck to the board.
March 31, 2026 at 1:02 pm #318679Could be worse.
“Carlisle United’s £7m Losses Highlight The New English Disease, And Fans Are Partly To Blame”1 user thanked author for this post.
March 31, 2026 at 1:04 pm #318680Let’s get away from the fund raising it’s not our role, of course fans help out but it’s Not the way forward, extra income streams are, not the selling of snake oil couple of quid jobs the club promote for any diddly dong company.
The Weekender failed but the club can’t just leave it at that. 2 years now and virtually nothing of merit coming from them.
Revenue streams of merit are more than likely to come with a financial start up and that shouldn’t be frightening.
Land is available which is ours I believe next to ground Subway outlet bout time they got something on it to lighten the burden.
Mine would be the fastest growing sport Paddle, not a single court in the town is to be had at the moment, speculate to accumulate.March 31, 2026 at 1:33 pm #318687Look at the reaction of Barnsley fans with the announcement that the wage bill for next season is to plummet to £3.5 million, “Why can’t they just sell up and f off” “What’s the point in running a football if your not properly willing to invest in it”
I’m with them all the way.March 31, 2026 at 2:04 pm #318688Owning a football club should not be seen as an investment, not one that produces a profit anyway.
March 31, 2026 at 2:10 pm #318689‘Land is available which is ours I believe next to ground’
Do we still own that land on Glebe Road?
March 31, 2026 at 4:41 pm #318695Accounts “being processed and will be available in ten days” on the Companies House website.
March 31, 2026 at 4:54 pm #318698The seem to be there now…
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00123622/filing-history
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March 31, 2026 at 5:26 pm #318703The accounts don’t exactly make comforting reading. As usual they’ve filed in abridged form, so we don’t get the full profit and loss account, which means no clear view of turnover, wages or the full trading picture.
What we can see is that the club’s net liabilities have gone up to £4.49m, from £3.76m the year before. So the overall financial position has got worse, not better. Accumulated losses are now around £13.56m.
The cash figure is probably the bit that really stands out: just £21,694 in the bank at year end. That’s tiny for a football club. At the same time, the club had £1.64m due within a year, with only £123k in current assets. So on the face of it, there’s no way the club could meet those short-term debts from its own resources.
Long-term debt also jumped from £2.03m to £3.03m, which is a big increase in one year, which suggests the club is still relying heavily on outside support just to keep going.
After digesting the accounts my take is thus: the club is still going, but financially it still looks very weak. There are one or two small signs of short-term improvement, but overall the bigger picture is that the hole has got deeper. It doesn’t read like a stable club financially, it reads like one still needing backing behind the scenes to survive from season to season.
March 31, 2026 at 5:35 pm #318705Very helpful analysis. So, it points to the need to get additional investors?
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March 31, 2026 at 6:10 pm #318706Very helpful analysis. So, it points to the need to get additional investors?
Which is what the majority on here having being saying for a long time and that is down to the board not the fans who do plenty as it is and its the boards responsibility to find new investors pronto.
March 31, 2026 at 6:33 pm #318709Would the board be prepared to dilute their share allocation and give them to a new investor, doubt it.
Michelle would be a fool, it would make it so much easier for others to out vote her on issues lot easier to get a three two vote than at the moment a three one.April 1, 2026 at 9:04 pm #318775Kieran Maguire’s take on the accounts. Slightly more positive than I’d expected, if I’m honest…
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0n9zmgz?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile
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April 2, 2026 at 10:50 am #318810Broadening the scope of this discussion to reflect on the wider issues of financing football clubs.
When people talk about football finance, the conversation usually jumps straight to the Premier League however, the real financial stress in English football is much easier to see further down the pyramid. In League One, League Two and the National League, where revenue is smaller, owner support is more critical, and one bad season can create genuine solvency problems. The House of Commons Library noted in 2025 that despite rising revenues across English football, clubs overall remained heavily loss-making, with aggregate losses of £1.2bn in 2022/23, over £3bn across three seasons, and around 85% of clubs loss-making, with losses accelerating faster in the lower leagues.
That is the key point: lower-league football does not mainly suffer from a lack of ambition; it suffers from a lack of margin for error. A Premier League club can post a large accounting loss and still survive because of broadcasting income, global commercial revenue and access to capital. A League One, League Two or National League club often does not have that cushion. It is far more dependent on gate receipts, local sponsorship, cup runs, player sales and continuing owner backing.
The published accounts of clubs outside the top flight make that pressure obvious. Wrexham’s official results for the year ended 30 June 2024 showed record turnover of £26.725m, but still a loss of £2.729m; the club itself made clear that this was after substantial strategic investment and with unusually strong commercial growth for a club that had only recently been in the National League. Carlisle United’s published 2024/25 summary showed turnover falling from £8.3m to £6.6m, while football costs rose to £5.4m and player wages increased by £1m. Even with resilient attendances and higher commercial income, the margin is clearly tight. These are not reckless outliers; they are examples of how easy it is for costs to outrun normal football income outside the elite.
What makes the lower leagues especially fragile is that many clubs are not really operating on self-generated cash. They are operating on owner commitment plus hope. Hope of promotion. Hope of a cup run. Hope of a transfer fee. Hope that the owner keeps writing cheques. That model can work for a while, but it is not robust governance. The fan-led review and the government’s response were both clear that too many clubs have historically been run on unsustainable assumptions, leaving them exposed when results turn, investors pull back, or debts need refinancing.
The National League is especially important here because it has become a kind of financial pressure chamber for former EFL clubs. It is full of clubs with Football League infrastructure, Football League supporter expectations and, in some cases, Football League cost habits, but without Football League central distributions. The National League’s own rules require clubs to submit full annual financial statements and disclose loan arrangements, which tells you that financial monitoring in that division is not a side issue; it is central to the competition’s stability.
That gap between expectation and income is, in my view, one of the biggest threats facing football over the next few years.
The first likely issue is continued overspending for promotion. In League One and League Two, the financial reward for moving up remains so significant that clubs will keep stretching wages and transfer budgets beyond what recurring income really supports. In the National League, promotion remains even more valuable because it is the gateway back to EFL distributions, higher visibility and, often, better sponsorship terms. That means clubs will keep taking risks even when the balance sheet says caution.
The second issue is greater dependence on wealthy owners and soft loans. Wrexham are the high-profile example of owner-backed growth done with momentum and commercial upside, but most clubs do not have that level of brand expansion or investor profile. For a typical lower-league or National League club, owner funding is not growth capital; it is often working capital. If that support weakens, the club can run into difficulty very quickly.
Third, I think we will see more pressure around infrastructure and stadium funding. Clubs are rightly trying to improve grounds, training facilities and fan experience because matchday and commercial revenue matter more outside the Premier League. But infrastructure spending needs cash, and clubs lower down the pyramid usually do not have spare cash. So the same clubs being told to modernise are often the clubs least able to fund that modernisation without external backing. Carlisle’s own accounts summary explicitly framed infrastructure improvements as part of long-term growth, but that long-term logic still has to survive the short-term cash reality.
Fourth, regulation is going to get tougher, and some clubs will struggle with that. The Football Governance Act 2025 created the Independent Football Regulator with a purpose of protecting and promoting the sustainability of English football, and the government’s fact sheet says the regime is intended to improve financial resilience across the pyramid by reviewing plans and stepping in where concerns exist. That should be a good thing for supporters, but it will be uncomfortable for clubs that have relied on weak forecasting, opaque funding structures or last-minute rescue money.
Fifth, the gap between the very strongest and weakest clubs in the lower leagues may widen. Some clubs will build stable models around attendances, community support, disciplined wages, better commercial operations and realistic planning. Others will continue to chase short-term sporting success with cost bases that only make sense if everything goes right. In the next downturn, whether that is relegation, lower attendances, reduced owner appetite or a bad run without player sale profits, those football clubs with weaker models will be exposed.
So the real financial warning sign in English football is not just that clubs lose money. It is that, lower down the pyramid, too many clubs are still one shock away from serious distress. The Premier League’s problems are about control, regulation and competitive balance. The lower leagues’ problems are more basic: cash flow, dependency, sustainability and survival. And unless governance improves materially, I think the coming years will bring more emergency funding, more distress sales, more supporter anxiety, and more examples of historic clubs living far too close to the edge.
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April 2, 2026 at 12:04 pm #318811Once again, a very helpful, clear and insightful analysis. Thank you. To me, it suggests that the more transparency from clubs on finance matters, the better. If you outline plans and challenges associated with decisions, the more likely you are to take fans with you. Better still, involve them in those decisions.
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April 2, 2026 at 2:20 pm #318816Bring back honest Dave over this rabble.
And there are some of you bending over backwards to put your money into the club without expecting a penny back but all they do his put loans in,with expectations of every penny back on demand.
Certainly no different to Swanny and hopefully they’ll get the same outcome when they move on sweet fa.
Certainly not what was expected and extra £1.4 million debt hanging over the club like a millstone, you wanted change but got same old same old.
Should at least show Apollo that it is a business and not some community for us all.
Don’t get me wrong that’s only what I’ve expected of any owner, they purchase a club spend whatever they want, build the debts up then at some point walk away and I’d be happy with that, I’ve said all along I’m happy someone putting money in by whatever means,other than with these owners who led us to believe it would be something different.April 2, 2026 at 2:39 pm #318817Honest Dave won’t stick – the rest of us know how dodgy he was.
April 2, 2026 at 2:39 pm #318818That’s where a lot of the unease comes from. If the club owes the owners another £1.4m, then supporters have every right to question the model. At this level, owner loans are common enough, but this ownership was supposed to be a break from that kind of setup.
Right now it looks less like a new way of doing things and more like the usual football cycle with a nicer sales pitch.
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April 2, 2026 at 2:40 pm #318819“that takes the club north of £1,000,000 north owing the director’s”
And Deerey said have you fact checked that.
Well I have now Deerey.
Told you we were doing it the opposite way instead of starting a footy club with £10,000,000 and ending up with £1,000,000April 2, 2026 at 2:52 pm #318820Scunthorpe are trying to move towards self-sustainability, and the board should be applauded for that.
The reality is the club is not there yet and is still heavily reliant on board loans to keep operating. That is not unusual in lower-league football, but it does mean the current model is still one of owner support rather than genuine financial independence. The real test is not whether directors are putting money in now, but whether the club can reduce its annual losses to the point where it can cover day-to-day costs from normal football income such as gates, sponsorship, commercial activity and football revenues without needing fresh loans every season.
As for the new director loans, the most realistic path is not immediate repayment but a slow transition: first cut the yearly deficit, then reach break-even, then build modest surpluses over time. Only once that happens can the club sensibly deal with the debt, most likely by leaving loans in place as patient funding, converting some into equity, or eventually writing some off rather than repaying them like a normal business loan. So the question for supporters is simple: is this genuinely a bridge to a sustainable future, or just another period of losses being covered by directors with the debt pushed further down the road?
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April 2, 2026 at 3:13 pm #318824Get real, highest crowds we’ve had in long while, and they are only running one team how are things going to get any better especially once we’re not challenging in whatever division we’re in.
The debt will only grow, you wrote that lengthy piece on football finance and got it right it’s just how it is I’m afraid, we at least need football league status to attract another sugar daddy to waste his money on.
If the club don’t gain promotion I’d be happy with administration and the 15 point deduction to attract that man.
Director loans aren’t classed as football debt so would be lucky to get 25% of their cash back twould make it a lot easier for a new owner to come in.April 2, 2026 at 3:15 pm #318826Hopefully, the questions that arise from this can be addressed at the forthcoming (date tbc) shareholders’ meeting. Is a move to sustainability realistic with this model while maintaining on field momentum? I never expected promotion this season, but will we better placed next to push on? Probably not. If we hit the jackpot and get promoted this year, that brings into play other revenue streams. There will also, though, be pressures and expectations in terms of investment.
I think we are all grateful for what the owners have done for the club to date and pleased with on field achievements. The need for a longer term plan is all too apparent.
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April 2, 2026 at 3:57 pm #318827If Dave was still around I think it highly likely the club would not be.
He was a convicted criminal who left us near the brink of extinction. People of his ilk should be nowhere near any community asset.4 users thanked author for this post.
April 2, 2026 at 3:58 pm #318828Scunthorpe are trying to move towards self-sustainability, and the board should be applauded for that.
The reality is the club is not there yet and is still heavily reliant on board loans to keep operating. That is not unusual in lower-league football, but it does mean the current model is still one of owner support rather than genuine financial independence. The real test is not whether directors are putting money in now, but whether the club can reduce its annual losses to the point where it can cover day-to-day costs from normal football income such as gates, sponsorship, commercial activity and football revenues without needing fresh loans every season.
As for the new director loans, the most realistic path is not immediate repayment but a slow transition: first cut the yearly deficit, then reach break-even, then build modest surpluses over time. Only once that happens can the club sensibly deal with the debt, most likely by leaving loans in place as patient funding, converting some into equity, or eventually writing some off rather than repaying them like a normal business loan. So the question for supporters is simple: is this genuinely a bridge to a sustainable future, or just another period of losses being covered by directors with the debt pushed further down the road?
Discussing this with someone just now and they asked: If these are loans, why have those Directors been given shares?
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April 2, 2026 at 4:34 pm #318829Well it wasn’t hard to do Michelle was given the shares in the first place, and they were hardly likely to join her without an equal holding.
Begs the question how the loans could be converted into equity.April 2, 2026 at 4:57 pm #318830Well it wasn’t hard to do Michelle was given the shares in the first place, and they were hardly likely to join her without an equal holding.
Begs the question how the loans could be converted into equity.I take your point, but it doesn’t answer the question.
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