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The worst news. My childhood hero. RIP King Kev.

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Come on. You’re better than that.

I was against the principle of having an unelected group appointed by the club. But the minutes of the last meeting show an ability and willingness to take up important issues. It is not their fault that the club has failed to (consistently at least): meet frequently, field a Director, or to publicise when meetings have taken place. Aren’t these similar issues faced by the Trust? The club doesn’t seem to be taking it seriously.

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Bumping this in the light of the reference to VoF in the interview with the Club Chair and General Manager.

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Absolutely. You wouldn’t and shouldn’t treat employees like this and expect high motivation, commitment, engagement and performance in response. So what would you expect from “customers” or fans when you don’t seek and take account of their views?

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SouthYorksIron, Apollo11

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Some personal reflections on the interview:

Positive
• Additional investment in playing budget.
• John Staff’s legacy recognised with planned display of large club shirt collection, albeit not accessible to all fans.
• Stability and apparent closeness of playing, management, board and backroom staff.

Negative
• A complete failure to see or value the role of fans and fans’ groups as an important channel for consultation and engagement on important matters.
• By extension, lack of preparedness for compliance with the IFR requirements on fan engagement.
• Additional revenue streams needed to fund additional investment and residual historic debt. Surely, we will enter the realms of diminishing returns associated with current initiatives to bring in more income.
• A reluctance to bring in additional major shareholders/investors.

Sadly, it looks like the approach of give us your money, but don’t expect any say in the running of the club will continue. That is really disappointing from a self-styled community club owned by four fans. Sadly, the inability to understand, recognise and respond to fan sentiment and views is likely lead to more and greater missteps. I hope I am wrong and we can look forward to a prosperous season off the field and a successful one on it.

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SouthYorksIron, Apollo11, alcazar

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I feel no less of a supporter. The language and presentation of this particular scheme is the issue for me. What it offers is not of huge interest. I can live without club curated interviews and access to behind the scenes footage.

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Deereyme66

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Perhaps everyone would be a receptive to this initiative if we were shown club accounts, plans and finances in an open and transparent way. Of course, it’s a choice for people to make, but the notion that you are, by definition, a lower caste of fan if you don’t is particularly offensive.

Dubai fan wrote:

The info about Beestin was free on the BBC sounds interview with Butler last night, whats the problem with you guys no one is forcing anyone to pay for anything except the match fee, its a free world do what you want but if there are people who want to pay/sponsor then great as it all helps the club no matter what it is and it means we can carry on supporting our team

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cassidystash

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A business can sponsor your seat (sticker on the back facing the seat behind) without your consent, whereas you can opt to pay to personalise your own seat with a sticker on the front. The business advertising on seats is odd. Who is going to see the sticker other than a few people sitting in the row behind?

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I referenced somewhere that John Staff once stopped me to say the claret on my 1950s replica shirt was incorrect. But I certainly wasn’t slagging him off. I respected and admired his knowledge and the fact he cared about these things.

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Deereyme66

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Never has there been a faster descent from a heightened state of anticipation and excitement into a condition of self-loathing and disappointment i.e. in the time between reading the subject heading and opening this thread. I am now going for a lengthy session of self flagellation.

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Apollo11, Awaywego

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I am not someone who buys or wears shirts, but I thought the club was supposed to consult with fans on their design. The away shirt is an improvement on last season’s home kit, which was the worst ever imo. The associated news item on the web site is now live and is a masterclass in how to slaughter the English language.

https://www.scunthorpe-united.co.uk/news/2026/july/2026-27-home-and-away-kits-launched

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Those dark arts would have been instilled at an early age.

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I stand corrected. That’s not what the various profiles I found said.

BigLeftToe wrote:

saleiron wrote:

Why? Can’t work out the question to which his signing is the answer. Am I missing something? Alty let him go in January and he has barely kicked a ball at Macc.

He played 25 times for Macc since January scoring 8 goals. Not exactly an inspiring signing but how does that fit your definition of barely kicking a ball?

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Just saw that. No thanks. What next?

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It looks like this has gone down very badly with Shrimpers’ fans. This one is typical:

“Ripping off fans who have forked out for season tickets and 3 friendlies not to mention the overpriced Aveley game…If the board members dont have the money to support the team then they need to resign and get someone in who can. Rather go and watch Chelmsford for my £10 a month.”

It has a familiar feel.

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I was definitely there in ‘84. Very memorable!

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I drive to games, so it’s all the same to me. It would, though, provide a good and uncontroversial source of match day revenue.

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I didn’t know that. It was being used as a store room for a while. Good that it is being used. I guess if you were desperate for a drink at the game, you would buy a ticket in another stand or pay £200 extra for an Executive ticket.

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This was one under the stand at the south west end of the Threadgold Stand. It was there for a few years.

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I’d forgotten about David Moss.

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They are to be applauded for giving their time and expertise so generously. I guess others have done work (e.g. trades work, professional services) for the club on the same basis. I would be astonished if the club’s rationale for the scheme was to raise extra revenue to pay those who have delivered these pro bono services.

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I am afraid this only gets worse…..

“Following yesterday’s unveiling of the new Iron Insider membership scheme, members can now check out their first exclusive perk with never seen before footage from the Iron’s fantastic end of season awards dinner hosted in the MKM Executive Lounge.”

I know membership is optional, but this is embarrassing. Paying for this? It may be that this is a product of heat fever and I have imagined it.

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alcazar

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I think it was Paul Moss. He had a really good season for us in 1981-82. In the close season, he rejected the offer of a contract to study Accounting at Birmingham University while playing part-time for Worcester City. He did later qualify and work as an accountant.

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alcazar, lesgeo, Iron-awe

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I know it’s not happening Deerey, but it should. The club seem to think a few smartass Tweets from admin and a kit launch film are enough.

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It seems to me that the best thing the club could do right now is:

• withdraw the scheme;
• acknowledge that with hindsight they made a mistake;
• state that lessons have been learned and they are committed to efforts to listen to the fan voice from all ranges of opinion.
• co-create a supporter engagement and communications strategy with fans’ groups and representatives.

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There may be a player in there is not the best foundation on which to make a signing. He was released by Donny and it’s a one year contract, so I guess he fits nicely into our wage structure.

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I said something very similar on new club website thread. It’s a PR disaster and I would put money on no fans’ group having being consulted on the matter. I wonder what the Independent Football Regulator would make of the supporter engagement-or lack thereof? The club really needs to sort out its approach to comms and fan engagement. But we already knew that.

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Sanfran49, alcazar

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I would feel more sympathy if they owned these missteps.

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This is very helpful. I wish the club would also look for some expertise among it fanbase on PR and Comms. The launch process has been amateur to put it mildly. It would be so much better to engage with, rather than ignore or gaslight, critical voices and sources of expertise that challenge the club.

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What happened to United we Stand? I wonder if fans’ groups were consulted?

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