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Not everyone has a wholly predictable personal life, AWG. It’s a shame it didn’t work out, but I wish him well. There seems to be no ill will between him and the club.

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Strangely, the story on the club’s OWS seems to have been published on Tuesday.
https://www.scunthorpe-united.co.uk/news/2026/september/ty-sellars-fleming-joins-the-iron-on-loan-from-hull-city

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Pleased to see him back, but it won’t solve our defensive and midfield frailties.

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alcazar, Deereyme66

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Cheap options can be the only answer.

BigLeftToe wrote:

Clearly not! I feel it’s the saga that will keep on giving until Butler is gone. This is Campbell’s 3rd season with us which is bizarre. Jones was given a go last season after Mahady dropped multiple clangers and Campbell was seemingly frozen out after returning from injury and sent out on loan. Jones did OK but nothing to suggest that he could take us to the next level. How both keepers got new contracts in the summer is beyond me.

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The last shareholders’ meeting was nothing more than a performative box ticking exercise. Do any of us know exactly what has been invested/loaned by the Directors, because it is not at all clear from club accounts or public statements? The pitch seems to have been funded by a combination of a PL grant and a Director’s loan.

Simonsays wrote:

North Lincolnshire Irons wrote:

Wiithout The Trust we would not have a Club to support and supporters need to remember this. The Trust battled to get SUFC made a community asset and did far more than our directors towards this. Also making shares available for our fans to purchase. Alright, so this funding page for our Kevin Keegan has not taken off as expected but we need to remember many of our fans do not have sufficient money to put a large amount into this. Ask why have our directors, most of them in business, not put say £1000 in each to set the ball rolling. Let’s face it their matchdays are free experiences for them including food and drinks and guests whereas we everyday supporters pay for every matchday and support the catering and bars and purchasing programmes and merchandise. I keep asking myself are our directors putting enough funds into our Club for what they get out of it.

Tell us you don’t know how much the directors have given and loaned the club without telling us you’ve got no idea how much they’ve loaned the club. Most of it they’ll never see again.

Believing the Iron Trust have done more to save our club than Michelle and co is both divisive and bonkers.

I’d much rather the Directors continue to plough money (take the fantastic pitch for instance) rather than a statue/garden for KK. I’d bet he would have done too.

Buy a few shares, attend the next Shareholders meeting and state your beliefs.

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It may be “small change” but it still needs to be accounted for. I also see that the club is still seeking to sell the remaining “pitch squares” as part of the “renovations and maintenance of the playing surface at the Attis Arena.”

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£13 a pop.

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It is also a full-time, professional football club with regulatory obligations relating to fan engagement.

Northumbiron wrote:

Always remembering that this is a National League football club and not Amazon or even M&S.

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Northumbiron

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In an ideal world, that would be how it works. Personally, I give credit where I feel it is due, but will speak truth to power when I feel things are wrong. I suspect that puts me in the category of “regular negative commentators.” As it stands, I think CT’s assessment of what was said is a fair one.

Simonsays wrote:

Isn’t it called balance?

Just as some completely disregard anything PD says a lot of us ignore the constant negativity from the normal characters on and off here.

Giving gentle praise where it’s due and constructively point out inadequacies might work better such that opinions aren’t written off by others.

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A further meeting took place on an unspecified date in July (assume w/c 13 July). Minutes went online on 20 July, but, again, it doesn’t look like the club highlighted these in the many posts on its “socials.” Three Directors attended. Some interesting comments from Directors about IFR compliance. Also, “…the Club is keen to listen to fan communications and build on feedback even though at times that there are always some regular negative commentators. However, the Club does thrive on positive feedback too, which is always appreciated.” Perhaps the “regular negative commentators” could be notified that their feedback is and will continue to be discarded and ignored? Pleasing to see feedback about kits and Iron Insider, and updates on fan group collaboration were discussed.

https://www.scunthorpe-united.co.uk/news/NaN/invalid%20date/voice-of-the-fans-july-2026-club-meeting

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Deereyme66

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Who said he isn’t turning up? And I never suggested we should continue the contract for its duration. I have no doubt that the club will be focused on resolving the matter in a fair manner.

Awaywego wrote:

And how long are going to be happy with the club continuing to pay Smith? SI The full 2 years.

The club can I’ll afford to be paying anyone who’s not even turning up for work.

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I am sure the club and player are trying to reach a mutually acceptable arrangement. There is no suggestion of any refusal to play or train, or of any ill feeling. To call him a wage thief is uncalled for imo.

Awaywego wrote:

Untill he goes out on loan he’s now a wage thief.

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As you say, bandying the term “toxic” in this context is usually a means of closing down debate and deflecting scrutiny. Ironically, toxic cultures often thrive in organisations where groupthink and lack of accountability feature.

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CMC, Apollo11

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For the masochists among you… Warning: AI may have played a role in the authoring of this piece.

https://scunthorpe-united.co.uk/news/2026/august/statistical-review-southend-united-1-0-iron

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Deereyme66

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No. Caught a chill from Friday’s ice cream session?

Deereyme66 wrote:

Just going back to the OP person subject – did Butler say what Whitehall was ill with?

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Simon Elliott? He left the Board (last time) quickly and quietly, and hasn’t been seen at a game since-to the best of my knowledge. Very strange.

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Wow. Has any previous owner/Chair inserted themselves in a team photo? I don’t recall such an incidence.

BigLeftToe wrote:

You can also purchase the 2026/2027 team photo for a fiver, which (IMO) strangely has Michelle Harness sat front and centre.

Not knocking what she’s done for the club in the slightest but imagine Jim Ratcliffe, Marinakis or Todd Boehly sat in the centre of United’s/Forrest’s/Chelsea’s team photo…they’d be absolutely slaughtered!

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No one has to buy it, but like many of the other recent tacky products, schemes and general cash grabs, it smacks of desperation and, imho, is indicative of an unhealthy culture.

64 wrote:

You don’t have to buy it,If people do it’s a few more quid. The club will have already stumped the cost of printing and they’re breaking the bank at £2.

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Strangely, when an Oscar Wilde character referred to someone knowing the cost of everything and the value of nothing, he was defining a cynic. Sounds more like our backroom staff leadership.

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According to our number 1 fan, there are some “cracking fixtures” in this competition and we should “get behind The Boys.” And here’s me thinking it’s a waste of time.

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Northumbiron, alcazar, Deereyme66, Awaywego

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I think Hayes and McCann were the most unjustly designated as whipping boys. Wasn’t Sean McAuley also an earlier example? I think Musselwhite also had a difficult period before he moved on to Port Vale.

I have nothing against Barrows. In many ways, he seems like a model pro and sounds like a thoroughly decent human being. I wouldn’t question his commitment and effort. It’s rarely a player’s fault if they are not up to the job, so not personal.

Deereyme66 wrote:

Good point bpg. I don’t recall many if any whipping boys in the early to mid 80s. It’s more of a modern football thing I think. I’ll add Grant McCann to that list and Rory McArdle. Plenty more I’m sure.

Edit: Russ Wilcox after his legs went.

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cassidystash

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I wish the likes of this content could be put behind a paywall. Dreadful.

https://scunthorpe-united.co.uk/news/2026/august/statistical-review-iron-1-1-yeovil-town

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SouthYorksIron, Awaywego

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Like it. Perhaps one of the 200 eligible Insiders can ask him.

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Sanfran49

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Didn’t he come here with one assist and no goals in two seasons? I know that’s not why we signed him, but why was playing further forward than Rowley?

Iron-awe wrote:

Nobody mentioned Richard’s glaring miss just before halftime guess he’s still on probation but that would have put us one up at the break and then of course a different second half.

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Having forced myself to listen to the Humberside interview, I was hopeful he was developing a more mature, sophisticated and flexible approach to management. However, he still seems preoccupied by players’ “credit in the bank” and what he’s seen in training and on GPS data. I am interested in what they do on the pitch on match day. The rest is noise.

Ironawe wrote:

Will be interesting to see what Butler does if we’re 1 up in a game and wants to protect the lead, many times last season we failed at this, watching Tuchel’s mastercalss against the Argies will Butler have learnt? Sadly one trait he has which is almost fatal for progression is his stubbornness and rigid approach. We need Butler to develop as a manager for the sake of him and the club. He shows no signs of development just yet.

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I know it’s only one game, but how did Rowley get subbed and Richards play the full game? Unless yesterday’s performance was a major blip, I am worried about Richards being a starter this season. Then again, our CM options are very limited. There may be fewer obvious makeweights in this season’s squad, but our best starting eleven is definitely weaker imo.

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Aren’t we all?

Rene Artois wrote:

SaleIron said:

Even for insiders?

I’m an outsider.

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Deereyme66

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Even for insiders?

Rene Artois wrote:

Two shots on target in 90 plus minutes.
Woeful.

No match report on OWS yet.
Poor.

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I am concerned about our lack of options and invention in CM. Rowley seemed to be playing deeper than Richards, which made little sense. I wasn’t convinced that Richards was a sensible signing and I remain underwhelmed. I am sure Barrows is a nice guy and a good trainer, but he shouldn’t be starting in a squad with at least three other RBs. Finally, only Butler understands the reason to play Howe out wide.

I stick to my prediction of a 10th place finish. The squad lacks balance and options in CM and up front. It is beyond me why we signed Hurst when we have so many better wide attacking options.

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cassidystash

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The Trust’s work on securing the stadium was very much based on good judgement as well as a lot of time. Even if you don’t agree with the current KK initiative (and I don’t), it doesn’t negate all the Trust’s achievements and work over the years.

Awaywego wrote:

Never had faith in it that’s why I never joined it.

The idea of it is good but in reality as done very little down the years, but the set up of it did allow them and only them to challenge selling of the ground by claiming but was a community asset. More luck than judgement.
One of the only positive things they actually did was pushing 10 years for a fan director only to let it then fold within a year what were they doing.

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