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Even Butler probably spotted that Barrows was not rested against Stoke.
Perhaps that’s why Butler likes to play people out of position. Confusing the AI scouts must be giving us a massive advantage.
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Speculate all you want one line ups but Butler is arrogant and more clueless ..
Butler had brainwave at half time tonight.
He moved the right back who had been playing left back over to right back.
He moved the left back who had been playing centre back over to left back.
He moved the centre back who had been playing right back to centre back.
He left the centre back who played at centre back at centre back fo what I think may have been his first full 90 minutes in his actual position. Mind you he’s only been with us a year.
Strangely the kids from Stoke who pretty much dominated the first half only created one decent chance in the second half allowing the Iron to wrap the game up.
I have to ask why the feck he started with 3 of his back 4 out of position?
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https://www.thenationalleague.org.uk/videos
Found this one which lists the games including ours. Need a National League account to log in and watch.
Risking the kiss of death but last season these free feeds were usually more stable than the DAZN feeds (albeit a low bar).1 user thanked author for this post.
He signed them on 2 year contracts Awaywego. Paid them for a few months then left it for others to pick up the pieces.
Don’t recall players not getting paid during the Wharton/Swann handover process.1 user thanked author for this post.
You’ve got to admit (well maybe that’s pushing it a tad with you lot) that him and Jimmy brought some great players in for Jimmy’s full season.
That’s because someone promised those players higher wages than they were worth. Didn’t take him long to stop paying them though.
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Don’t much want to hear anything from our owners. Certainly don’t want to hear anything from Matlock’s owner.
Agree something coherent from our coaching team other than we keep doing the same thing because we’re always right would be good.
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Altrincham probably cheat NI and try to get the ball to him in goal scoring positions.
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Bookies not quite as convinced of Yeovil’s credentials as Butler had us believe by the way.
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There’s a hiding place behind having played two playoff contenders.
Next two against bookies favourites for the bottom five will give us a good idea how big a problem we have.
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The stats and the evidence of our own eyes is we are too passive and in my view obsessive about getting into one of a number of different defensive shapes.
We have pretty a pretty decent back 4 with plenty (maybe too many) options.
We have a very good holding midfielder who performs pretty much every game – so long as we don’t drop him.
We have two nervous keepers which almost everyone but our manager can see so for now pick the least nervy (Campbell?) and hope for the best while scouting loanee possibilities.
Trust your defensive 6 and let the get on with it.The other 5 players should be focused on putting pressure on the opposition and creating at least double figures in efforts on goal.
Of course they should be pressing and covering without the ball but that’s not the main reason they are there.
Whitehall and Roberts of course were spared most of the structured shape stuff which is perhaps why they created 40 or 50 goal involvements between them in the last 2 seasons.
That ship has now sailed with Roberts now at his correct level and Whitehall morphing into a full time caricature of his shithousery persona.
The Southend full backs spending 95% of the game attacking and Jones and Brennan spending the same percentage of time defending rather poorly was not an inevitable consequence of the home side superiority.
It was a consequence of our tactical mindset.It appears that we set up in games with 2 possible results in mind. 1-0 is preferred but 0-0 will do.
Given our aversion to actually keeping clean sheets this seems a strange tactical path to follow.5 users thanked author for this post.
Didn’t take Southend fans long to fire up the dodgy keeper treatment on Jones. The most worrying thing is that he was probably our best player.
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Stand out cameo from today?
A throw in so bad even a National League referee spotted it.
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I think we will have to give him the ball before we learn if he can do anything with it Les.
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It’s been a while since we had a season of mid table mediocrity.
Just when we had 15 minutes of holding our own in the game poor man’s Pep comes up with a master plan.
If you’re going to park the bus why pick an attacking line up?
We have 1 defensive midfielder so obviously we don’t need him. We have 1 wide forward with defensive discipline so don’t even put him on the bench.
Rowley and Smith in case you’re wondering.
One of the biggest 1-0 hammerings we’ve had in a while. They’re a very good side with a very good manager though (says Butler,PD and nobody else).
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I believe the player number squads are about the same 23/24 players per squad but Southend playing budget is around £600,000 pounds greater then the Iron budget , that’s just wages on players not staff and coaches. Basically they have better players overall than us because they pay them more so can attract better players to their club. It’s not rocket science or made up amounts it’s just basic logistics.
Similar disparity last season and we beat them 3 times out of 3. Higher salaries don’t always mean better players and higher budget certainly does not mean a better team. Thank goodness for that or professional football would not be worth watching.
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Southend only about 50 miles further than our average away trip this season and they travelled yesterday anyway.
If we get beat it will be because they are a very good side with a very good manager. All 23 other National League sides are very good with very good managers apparently. It might get mentioned that they have so many staff they can’t fit in the dugout and their player budget is 2/3/4 (take your pick) times ours.1 user thanked author for this post.
Having moved reluctantly to the stand where folks wait to die 4 or 5 seasons ago I can assure you that you will feel right at home regarding age group and level of moaning.
Approximately 45% moan about aimlessly tippy tapping across the back line and another 45% moan about lumping it forward. Remaining 10% (the really loud ones) moan about both.
Fortunately Butlerball delivers both styles in about equal measure often in the same passage of play.3 users thanked author for this post.
Over the last 2 seasons I have often left Iron games thinking I have seen evidence of a game plan to stop the opposition but very little evidence of a game plan on how we are going to score. This surely cannot be true but just calling it as I see it in lots of games including many that we have managed to win.
The game plan to create chances and score has seemed to be get the ball any old how to Roberts, Whitehall and occasionally Beestin and they will come up with something. No coincidence that Roberts and Whitehall have been pretty much excluded from most defensive responsibilities and that Beestin is not always consistent with his. Probably why Beestin was never first choice in midfields full of less skillful and creative players and why when he does start he is usually first for the hook.With an exceptional talent for the level like Roberts you can get away with this until you play the likes of Rochdale and York who in the main will deal with such limited threats.
Probably why despite being a top side in our respective leagues for 2 seasons you can count on one hand the times we have had really comfortable wins. You can of course win comfortably in different ways. York did it mainly by scoring for fun and Rochdale did it by demonstrating one goal is probably enough and two goals almost certainly is.
I guess the point I’m trying to make here is that if you have a player that scores or assists almost every game you can play with the handbrake on to protect suspect goalkeepers and defenders and be pretty successful.
Without that you might need to do things a bit differently.
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Having an opinion that a player is being asked to do things they are not well equipped to does not equate to calling for the managers head IA.
I played football for 25 years and have watched a massive amount of it for over 50 years. In that time I have never seen a player with limited pace and skill whose main assets are physicality and heading ability turn in a good performance out wide.
I don’t even remember who our manager was at the time and whether he was good bad or ugly. I can guarantee you I was not calling for his head. Whoever it was though made ridiculous demands on a promising young player – in my opinion.1 user thanked author for this post.
Thanks Deery for correctly (and rather subtly) pointing out my double standards regarding cheating.
Funnily enough was chatting with a couple of Yeovil fans in the pub pre match and found myself having to justify Whitehall’s unsavoury antics and it did make me wonder why I would do that.
He’s a sh1thouse but he’s our sh1thouse is wearing a bit thin going into the fourth season.
At least 5 times yesterday he chose the clown option when making a telling pass would have been easier. He missed out on a fairly easy headed chance in the first half being already on his way down for the pretend penalty when the ball arrived centre of goal 6 yards out and centre back nowhere.
He did not win a single free kick for these incidents and only once out of his other random simulations did he con a fairly poor ref into a free kick.
I would estimate 4 or 5 times he was actually fouled by centre backs and got nothing. This is par for the course in most games because National League referees are well aware of his previous and his reputation.The most frustrating thing is on the odd occasion he ditches the shithousery for a spell he is a very decent centre forward. Those spells sadly don’t come around too often.
Time for a change perhaps – it could work for both parties. Meanwhile I will stop moaning about other teams cheating. Glass houses and all that.
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Players usually do well when a manager works out what a Players best position is and plays him there.
If the manager is really good they will tweak their tactics to capitalise on the players strengths.
Playing Wootton on the wing was never going to work. It was someone trusting him as a centre forward that allowed him to shine.
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Must be really encouraging for a young footballer to be trashed by your potential loan clubs fans before anyone has even seen the fellah.
From what I can gather from Butler’s various snippets to Humberside the loan was discussed and verbally agreed early in preseason. Hull actually briefly announced the loan then it became apparent the lad was injured. Announcement was hastily taken down.
Absolutely no point in going ahead with the loan as his treatment would be Hull’s responsibility anyway. I think I read somewhere he went to Turkey with Hull but don’t know if he got any training in.
He is now fit so Butler suggesting the deal will be sorted Monday.Must have something for a (then) championship club to bring him over from Ireland and for one of the National League moneybags outfits to take him on loan.
At least let’s see him get properly fit and play a couple of games before giving him the banjo treatment FFS.
We have had a few gems with Irish connections over the years.
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