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Forgot to add I think we could do with a forward coach. We seem reasonable at the without the ball shape(s) but not so hot at creating and taking of chances. Given 50% of creating and taking of chances has been down to Roberts for the last 2 seasons we have a real problem to solve.
Looking at the team performances this season there are some areas we are below par for a playoff contending side.
1. We hardly ever score from corners and wide free kicks. Most football crowds get a little excited when their team gets a corner or wide free kick. Our crowd doesn’t.
2. Beestin apart our midfield does not score goals. And Beestin doesn’t get picked. Neither do any of them go past the forwards or flood the box when attacking. Probably why they don’t score. Tactics, coaching or capability?
3. No goals from the left sided forward position. Smith, Chadwick, Jones, Carlton, Beestin when he plays there. Barely a goal between them. TSF did get a few but hardly prolific. Given we are losing our 20 goals from the right side this becomes even more of a problem. If Howe is going to be a regular starter and scorer he is going to have to make a success of playing as a wide forward.Part time gig for Torps perhaps?
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Agree. We need 5 or 6 players we would be happy to see start 40 games next season.
1. Goalkeeper that inspires confidence to defenders.
2. 2 x centre backs preferably with pace, able to tackle,pass a bit and capable of posing a threat in opposition boxes.
3. 2 x midfielders see above for attributes as well as 6 or 8 goals a season.
4. A centre forward who plays like Whitehall on a good day and focuses on retaining the ball rather than vain efforts to win free kicks and tedious shithousery.Not much to ask?
Agree with most of your post IA64 but we can’t be crediting Butler with recruitment of Roberts. He is the first manager to get and keep him fit for 2 full seasons so he deserves credit for that.
You also missed referring to what I think what is his best bit of business. Our second best player is Joe Rowley and whilst his signing was decent the masterstroke was seeing him as a holding midfielder this season.A big test awaits this summer. Finding replacements for Roberts, Ewing and Boyce (possibly Westbrooke too) from the bargain basement is not going to be easy. A proper goalie wouldn’t go amiss either.
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The ticket fiasco was an own goal by the club and it’s ticketing partner.
The failure to recognise the error and issue an apology is an even more serious own goal by the board.
I guess they are hoping that if we lose tomorrow folks will be glad they didn’t get a ticket and if they win the Wembley excitement will cause people to forget.
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Butler certainly knows how to motivate players.
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Bunker managed to look decent in what was a desperately poor side when he was here. Don’t recall the other fella so either didn’t play or just didn’t stand out when I’ve watched FGR.
From what I read on Rochdale website this morning their season ticket holders had 2 days when they could by their season ticket seat/space only.
When they opened it up for general sale (15:00 today I think) then folks could buy 6.1 user thanked author for this post.
Let’s not make out it’s an easy situation to resolve. Absolutely fair that one season ticket holder can only buy one ticket.
Of course that means me and my mate who attend home and away games together will not get a seat together. That would upset our most (financially) valued supporters.Allowing ST holders to buy 6 tickets probably veers to far the other way.
Don’t slag off the club unless you’re proposing a fairer way of doing it.
And if he has I hope he’s right.
I’m pretty sure if we had needed to beat Eastleigh then we probably would have done.
There would not have been any “sympathy” appearances from players we have barely seen and probably won’t ever see again for a start. Your playing of your “reserves” against Hartlepool not only cost you any chance of a home game but also allowed us to rest key players.
I watched your game at the Monkey Hangers and it would seem like ourselves you have a decent 13 or 14 players but you’re scraping the barrel after that. York and Rochdale have the budgets for 20 or so decent players which is how you get 100 plus points I guess.
Been hoping for weeks that we arrive at the playoffs with most of our 14 fit and well and that seems to have happened. All the playoff games could go either way so bring it on.
Would be nice if one of the SUFC’s made it back to the EFL this season given the near terminal damage our respective toxic owners have subjected us to.
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The vast majority of issues fans had with Butler last season was his stubborn insistence on playing 5 at the back with players totally unsuited to the formation.
Nothing to do with liking the man or otherwise.
As soon as he quietly changed formation the noise went away – as it tends to do when your winning.
Of course Butler never admitted he had changed system or accepted he had stuck to a flawed system for too long.
As I think it was Awaywego said, arrogance in a manager is acceptable but stupidity is not.
Clark had arrogance in spades which as a footballer he was entitled to. As a manager not so much. He was disliked because he slagged off his inherited squad as soon as he arrived and said they weren’t good enough to get promoted. Except that’s what the team then went and did. The promotion happened in spite of Clark not because of him.2 users thanked author for this post.
None of which matters unless we beat Southend Green Rovers.
We can’t make 1 change without weakening the side if that change involves Roberts, Rowley, Whitehall or Evans.
I think it unlikely anyone still prepared to post on the corpse of Twitter has anything credible to say about Butler – or anything else.
Just an opinion obviously. People are welcome to spout lies and vitriol on any platform of their choosing.
If we can win the Eliminator then all the pressure is on Rochdale or York.
They have the massive budgets. They have been very good but just not good enough. They have just failed to win a one off game that would have had them promoted as champions.
Arguably York will feel the pressure most. No one wants to be the Arsenal of the National League.
Apparently he is fine. Could have continued on Saturday but Butler decided it was not necessary.
I have also given up on his dull and often techy Humberside interviews but his post Wealdstone one ran on from listening to a Whitehall one while I was captive in the car.
The player Humberside interviews are often more interesting.Before Deery has me in the Butler out brigade he has done a fine job this season whatever happens next. He is overly sensitive to what he perceives as criticism and does some very daft things – as any inexperienced manager would. Calling said daft things out is not calling for his head. Not sure I have heard any serious calling for his head since Whitehall and a dodgy referee saved his job at Marine last season.
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Sinclair finally had a good game for the Iron.
Only spoke about outfield players as goalkeeper is one area where most if not all our playoff rivals have an edge.
We have dicked about all season with the position because we did not replace Fitzsimons in the summer.
Jones is gradually settling but still give me (and his back four) the heeby jeebies at times.
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We have as good a 10 outfield players as any of the top 7 provided we play to our strengths – 4-3-3 with a good tempo.
Problems start for one of 2 reasons:
Injuries, suspensions, daft team selection and/or daft substitutions leave us with less than our best 10 outfield players. Whitehall, Roberts and Rowleys impact is so great they are irreplaceable from within our squad without seriously reducing our quality. We have between 1 and 4 maximum capable deputies for our best 10 which is understandable given our budget. The advantage York, Rochdale and Carlisle have over us is not the quality of their first 11. It is the quality of the second 11. That is the benefit of spending the million or so extra on your playing budget.
The second cause of our problem is when Butler and team use formations and tactics the players don’t have the aptitude or capability to use properly. Things like 5 at the back, hoofball, turning the game into a scrap and the most damaging tactic of all – setting up to negate the perceived threats posed by mediocre and downright poor football teams.
If we go into the playoffs with our 3 irreplaceables fit and well and most of the other 7 are there too and we play our game then I think we would have a good chance of making Wembley. Once you’re there anything can happen.
Butler trying out 5 at the back “just in case we need it” worries me greatly. Him likening himself to the Tinkerman the other day suggests almost Trump levels of delusion. PSG and the like can switch formations and tactics at will. National League level players can not.3 users thanked author for this post.
It’s a funny old game. Played them twice this season and they were lucky to come second both times.
Thanks Deery. Makes more sense than the original and obviously anyone who drinks Watneys must be certifiable.
Google translate didn’t help so if anyone could rework that into English I would appreciate it.
Glad I couldn’t be arsed to turn up at Wealdstone today.
Seems like most of the players feeling the same way.
At least he’s starting with the first team.
Fail to win today and we could be away at Boreham Wood.
Probably better than Southend away and the winners then to face Carlisle rather than York or Rochdale.
We have only lost 3 out of 18 games to other top 7 sides but 2 of those have been to Carlisle. No doubting though their quality is significantly lower than that of York or Rochdale.Your incredibly clever banter of course implies the Iron will have a home play off game. Sadly by no means certain or even likely according to 2 or 3 of our more pessimistic posters.
I hope so Alcy. It’s a pretty low bar. Welcome back by the way.
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Simonsays check through the posts on PD, Maw and Facebook and you will find it’s 4 or 5 individuals with some kind of obsession.
Most of us only comment on football or occasional club issues that are real. Some of us even have been known to attempt humour.If the Facebook page was relevant to me I would read and post on there. Folks can support the club/team any which way they choose. Bru is not a club, gang or entity. Just a forum with lots of individuals who only have some interest in the Iron in common.
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Only 1 option to tke with Dawson sadly.
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