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Also a manager who failed with a squad with a higher budget, even if that budget wasn’t properly accounted for.

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I don’t disagree that a goalkeeper is a priority.

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Deereyme66 wrote:

I’d expect Smith to score double what Howe would have given how many fans greeted his return like the second coming.

To be fair, I prefer the enthusiasm over a signing who performed well for us previously over the hyperbolic negativity over the ‘goalkeeping crisis’ with Campbell and Watson that saw us conceding a similar amount of goals to now.

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It’s not really a deflection, is it, when I say that Mandelson was a wrong un and Starmer was wrong to appoint him as ambassador? I said nothing about Mandelson having ‘no clue’. Rowling is different because there isn’t even a suggestion she met him, nor was he invited by her, seemingly. The point is that you are making out that this was some Blairite thing when people of all persuasions had involvement.

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I wonder if Noam Chomsky and Fidel Castro were Blairite luvvies.

This scandal seems to hint at people of influence, of all backgrounds, using Epstein and his sordid links for their own gains, be it through their own perverse desires or trying to mingle with the elite.

JK Rowling is particulaly egregious in the link, given that all I can find is that he was turned away from an opening party of a Harry Potter show and wasn’t in contact with Rowling specifically. Mandelson – piece of s**t and always has been, which Starmer is deservedly getting criticism for.

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https://www.facebook.com/reel/1377184840398752

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Iron-awe

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ironfromafar wrote:

Iron-awe wrote:

Bet he’s gutted you’ve blocked him, lol.

I only blocked him on one of my fbS 5555555

He is a mug ..literally

Is it best filled with tea or coffee?

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I don’t really get the vitriol towards Robbie Savage. Sure, he’s a ‘character’ and many characters can be arseholes (e.g. Joey Barton, Phil Brown), but he seems to be enthusiastic and quite complementary towards others going from his words and actions towards Butler. Hardly the big headed, prima donna people make him out to be.

I know Macclesfield fans would probably take umbridge at how he left them and raided their squad, but he isn’t the first manager to do that and I don’t see why that would sully his reputation among Scunny fans over the other, less high profile managers, who have done similar.

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It’s perhaps not surprising, but he hasn’t been subtle in interviews for quite some time now, and I have no doubt there would be internal issues coming if he was a back bencher. It’s politics, so I am not saying he is a bad person or has been a bad mayor, but from party leadership it would be a fraught move for them to allow in someone to stand when they will likely cause issues.

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Streeting is the only minister who seems to have had some benefits in his own task of healthcare, but it is probably not surprising I am more fond of someone when it is not shared by 64.

I am not surprised Burnham was blocked; from a strategical point of view, it would be silly to allow someone in who has been scheming for years and would cause friction.

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I have always found him a bit of a weather vane and his attempts to undermine Starmer, as useless as he has been, for the past few years, has been underhand.

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Poor attempt at lightening up as decreed by Mr Hiatus, who joins an illustrious club that includes reasonable types like Alcazar, Pat O’Cake and Bad Apple. Though I’m not sure even they would stoop to dropping Americanisms like ‘gotten’ instead of ‘got.

Gotten actually has old English roots and was used in Britain until the 19th century, when it became obsolete. It’s why “ill gotten gains” exists in British English as a relic of when it was used more frequently. Americans didn’t have the same drop in trend, which is why it is a thing there still.

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Greylag, Brianiron and Heath.

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Who will do our scouting reports from the latest football manager now?

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For a second I was expecting a Reformy tirade against no good gypsies from Deerey. :-)

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I think they will be Reform voters now.

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64 wrote:

Awaywego wrote:

See the club ignoring the weather yet again give a preview of the game but no mention of the pitch and wether there having a pitch inspection, guess it must be temperate down there, my grass is rock hard.

All you see is the club not telling you everything they know when you oddly think they should.

I demand a club statement.

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Fine by me as long as he sticks by us and isn’t another Spireiron, flitting from club to club.

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Awaywego

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Iron-awe wrote:

Trump said pre election he was going to to be a dictator from day one and he appears to be carrying that out. His total lack of running the majority of his decisions by congress and the senate and as DM says his disregard for international law are no different to Putin waltzing into Ukraine and saying it’s legitimate, different scale of course but the same principal. Of course his mental deterioration and poor health are probably part and parcel of his decision making but it’s very unnerving for the rest of the world. We were famous for gun boat diplomacy back in our empire days ( another term for bullying others ) and Trump is no different IMO.

I would say that there is quite a bit of difference between what happened in Ukraine and Venezuela. Ukraine has a democratically elected leader, while Venezuela has a dictator who is recognised as illegitimate given he has rigged elections and stayed on despite losing a decade ago.

My own thoughts on this is that, on paper, this could have been defendable on this basis. The removal of a tyrant, who has massacred more dissidents than Pinochet and caused a huge economic slump which has destroyed the country. The problem is that it would be extremely foolish to believe that Trump has done this out of any love for democracy and for Venezuelans. This has been evident in that he has only removed Maduro and left the regime still intact and has been openly saying he would be happy with Venezuela if he can just get money from oil out of it, without a care if Venezuela remains the corrupt, despotic state that it is. Any talk of narcotic sponsoring falls apart when you realise Trump pardoned Hernandez of Honduras, who also has links with narcotics. Any talk of upset at Maduro for being a tyrant falls apart when Trump wanted to remain as leader, despite losing fairly, in 2020 and whipped up a frenzy on Jan 6th 2021 for this. And sources close to the White House have said that Trump didn’t want to work with Machado because she refused to demand that Trump got the Nobel Peace Prize instead of her. Narcisstic moron with the maturity of a toddler.

Moreover, he has now gone along with imperialist mantras that are reminiscent of Putin. If he had kept it as a needed operation to remove a hostile element of the US, who had no legitimacy as leader, it could be sold as something that would be beneficial for Venezuela and its people (even if Trump isn’t exactly some benevolent figure). However, his ego couldn’t stop there. He had to speak of stupidity over some ridiculous ‘Donroe doctrine’ over the Americas and threatening Greenland again. I am convinced he wants Greenland because it looks large on the Mercator projection; all his arguments about security fall apart when you realise the USA has that anyway and the countries Trump says he wants protection from include those he has snuggled up to. All his cyclic, failed (so far) peace attempts for Ukraine have collapsed because he is too eager to just go along with whatever the Kremlin says, and even recently he believed the Putinist nonsense about attacks on Putin’s residence. Never mind that Putin has attempted to capture or kill Zelensky more than once and deliberately attacks civilians, Putin maybe being attacked is what gets Trump upset.

The USA doesn’t realise how much damage it is doing to itself among its allies and too many dismiss it as exagerration. The USA, in this last year, has proven itself so unreliable for any kind of trust. It regularly attacks allies, while cosying up to tyrants, pushes for whatever the tyrant wants in resolving conflicts and makes egregious insults towards Europeans. Europeans have sometimes struggled with free speech, admittedly, but the free speech here is damn more available than elsewhere, who Trump has repeatedly been weak on (having a good laugh with Bin Salman of Saudi over dead journalists and excuses for the Khashoggi killing), while going after those who dare insult him or tried to hold him accountable. Even if he goes in 2028, how can we place long term reliance on a country that could elect a Caligula figure every 4 years? The USA have blown mutual cooperation with them into the water. Tariffs, threats and more mean that Europe, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Australia and the rest of the ‘free world’ cannot rely on them. I don’t say this out of American hatred; I think the USA has been a good superpower to have since WWII compared to the alternatives, but now it is beyond contempt because the senile idiot in charge has meant that we can no longer trust them (and this is without going into the domestic stupidity). For a while, critics said it would be better with a multipolar world, but that is what we have now and look how bad it is. Russia and China have been stirring up trouble for years, but now it has arrived and that means ‘might means right’. Maybe a liberal democratic USA, which was always free market capitalist, but with more respect for rules and order wasn’t so bad after all.

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Happy new year to all and hopefully another memorable year for the Iron to follow.

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Awaywego wrote:

To me chants nowadays are rather tame to what they were when I first started going in the late 60s.
Many were meant to offend so what!

Maybe so, but the problem here for me is the political nature that alienates others among our own fanbase. That is what causes division. If people are going to chant for divisive figures, they should expect people to react negatively to those chants.

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sufc_not_on_tour wrote:

Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg wrote:

The Keir Starmer chant is pretty widespread now; Sky have had to go silent when it’s sung at the darts.

Must admit it was disheartening hearing it at a Scunny game, along with the pro- farage chants. The Tommy Robinson chant was sung by 20-30 young lads behind us, there was an angry response from half a dozen or so Scunny fans and it quickly stopped. I asked a young lad behind us why he was singing it and he didn’t have a clue, seemed embarrassed when confronted about it.

sad state of affairs and hopefully that shite can be self policed.

So, because YOU and the clown who was so upset by it that he felt the need to start threads on the subject insist it should be banned and no doubt think people who feel the need to chant should be silenced by the likes of you pair.
You do realise that is why the chants are sung, because of people like YOU!

People have the right to air dissatisfaction with divisive chants that have nothing to do with football and would alienate part of the fanbase. As long as they aren’t getting stewards to escort fans away for these chants, I don’t think it is censorious. Fans can still ignore these calls to shut up.

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I don’t think we can censor fans for singing a song disparaging the PM. I don’t think Iron Army have done anything untoward in having that aired. However, I’d rather fans didn’t bring such politics into chants. After all, supporting the club should be people for all views and what unites is being a fan of the same club. After all, the same people would say “don’t bring politics into football” if others chanted anything against something they supported.

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You won’t win over many converts with your attitude.

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I Corinthians 1:18. For the message of the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing,but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
The Gospel message is simple,Repent and believe the “ Good News”.
Hope this post is an adequate response to the post by Siderite.

Good grief. I was just posting a merry Christmas message with a fun, quirky song. It wasn’t a cryptic message aimed at getting anyone. Lighten up.

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Merry Christmas to all Iron fans.

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There are still free and fair elections planned for the USA, so I wouldn’t describe him as a dictator. He certainly admires them though and I have no doubt that he would love to be one. He is acting like one, with the austentatious and tacky White House updates, grovelling of underlings and hatred of critical material of his government. They give a pretense of free speech concerns in Europe, but seem more bothered that Kremlin rubbish gets called out as disinformation and he is more than happy palling up to murderers of journalists from Saudi.

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Speaking of affronts to democracy, I see the ‘pro-free speech’ government of the USA are sanctioning bodies and people involved with highlighting disinformation. Apparently free speech does not include highlighting lies and free speech means shutting down those calling out lies.

Maybe the ‘totalitarian Marxist state’ is being brought in by Donald Trump?

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When we have a general election by 2029, will you admit you were wrong?

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