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Mk have you ever had a manager like Butler who’s made you consider is it worth travelling away, I missed quite a few last season that would have normally being a given.
I’ve Been very selective this season, wouldn’t be going to Wealdstone if we hadn’t booked 3 months back.

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I’ve just listened to his interview, “what do you say to the fans that spent money to come and watch today” pause stutter I put out a team to represent them!
Fans don’t spend hard earned money for a team just to represent them.
Fans want him to put out a team capable of winning, and none of his tinkering teams have been.

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[Awaywego]

No, it’s shared after expenses, Michelle’s relying on those funds to bring the debt down perhaps she should tell Butler how important an home game is. Hardly likely to get 50p if it’s an away game after the hotel bill and a 2 day coach hire plus policing and the match officials.
No money either in the final if it’s the same as Nln divided up amongst all the clubs.
Home games a must for her.

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He’s arrogant (nothing wrong with that) stubborn plenty wrong with that, and is bloody clueless a lot of the time.
Ffs why bring the subs on when down to ten men losing 2-0 the games gone, you’ve rested the players just keep them rested bloody useless and clueless, then defend it in your interview, I’m the boss, what do you know, f off, we’re in the playoffs aren’t we, it’s just a blip.
Or maybe I’m very sorry fans i completely f that up.

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End of the day Scunthorpe will have nominated this game way up there on who they wanted to play at Xmas and Easter,
One for fans to travel to in numbers like Hartlepool brought 600 on Saturday.
Butler again treats the fans with distain, if I were the board I’d be pulling mi hair out do they really expect casuals to turn out in greater numbers for the last 2 home games with his attitude.
Save your money for the playoffs lads.

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No big deal to you maybe Ironawe but to several thousand others it is, do you not think they would like to see a home playoff, or a couple of hundred going making a trip of at least 150 miles at quick notice.
Kids at school how they supposed to make the trip.
F ya before a ball was kicked shite, 4 games to go and he puts out a NL cup side out, short changing all those who’ve travelled, even if we come back to win. Has he learned nothing the B side doesn’t cut the mustard.

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And I thought I had bad attitude.
These are initiatives been brought up by your average fan,just someone who would like an idea taken forward. No names no hassle.
Where Bru would and will come into it (from me at least) is where the club don’t keep to what they said they will do.
Someone had suggested a women’s team the club and fair enough from the club they considered it but they’re not taking it forward at the moment but will be kept under review, no fluff just an open and honest reply.
No one’s slagged the other unity group’s more than me, but I still throw positive suggestions at them.
If they want to label it as bru hate so be it we’re not bothered are we?

[Awaywego]

This month’s update imo is within the realms of what to expect from them, few different initiatives brought forward.
Maybe on reading, the fund raising group could maybe take on the fanzone area instead of the club, better chance of regular donations rather than for the pounds for pitch which within reason as died a death.

[Awaywego]

Going from the best NL ground to the worst, not for me I’m afraid. 0-3

[Awaywego]

Nah be a very poor forum if we only talked about football.

[Awaywego]

One thing he’s fixed is my horse for the grand national Apollo.

[Awaywego]

Just watched didn’t show owt, I’ll do a Deerey and wait to see the full story before commenting.

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[Awaywego]

As if his head and ego could get any bigger.

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Lol. Bhuna.

[Awaywego]

That’s alright then if he’s promoting the club.
Doesn’t matter he’s here and gone the next,then back again that’s making the club a laughing stock imo.
Throwing the mental health card into the mix “my wife and family mean more to me than any football club” was behind the pale never mind the cancer comment.
Anyway he’s back now, just hope he’s learned from his 3 or 4 day musings.

Can’t understand what’s creepy, perhaps you could expand please.

[Awaywego]

Was that you Bhuna who got kicked out for having words with Butler.

[Awaywego]

We can score just haven’t defended well. 77 goals up to now 1 more goal then last year.

[Awaywego]

Come on you’ve got to say he’s very clever to get his hands on another football club, that’s the third now without having loadsa money behind him.

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There’s a difference between having no money and refusing to spend. Both of the came to the same conclusion much the same as Maguire said in that interview some owners finally don’t see it worthy of carrying on when all they get is grief.
Have we seen anywhere where Hilton didn’t have the money? Quite the contrary he had to show proof of funding down the line to be an owner to the fa the national league and Swanny which was corroborated by Elliott as well.
Will have had to do the same with Matlock, do you not question how he’s able to do it if he hasn’t got money behind him or the ability to borrow it.
If he hasn’t got any he’s one clever man to continue to dupe people and power to his arm for it.

[Awaywego]

Don’t really get how he held the club to ransom and maybe demanded should have read asked.

Club statement on the 4th October, Michelle, “I thank everyone who got the transaction over the line especially David Hilton”
Then went on to say “David has taken no fee for the club and wiped all monies he personally invested to allow the deal to happen” That doesn’t appear to be a man holding the club to ransom.
Really 64 you must do better than that.

[Awaywego]

Just like that kind of stuff got rid of Swanny and Hilton too.

Not trying to get rid but I’m hardly bothered wether they’re here or not.

But I’m sure you can say it’s not what most of you wanted when the majority of fans wanted rid of Swanny, change was the order of the day and it’s just not happened.

The model appears to be the same debt debt and more debt.

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If memory serves me right Sharp called is supposedly loan back from Hilton what makes you think he wouldn’t do it again.
St Wharton called his £4 million loans back when Swanny took over, Fenty wouldn’t sell till his loans where paid back and Chansiri wants his share of the loans back when sheff Wednesday is sold.
Business men and women like to protect their money as much as possible, that’s why they loan instead of donating.
The one man who didn’t loan the company money was Hilton! Even turned down 2 crowd funding schemes one was for his legal fees for his court case with Swanny, can’t remember the other one was for.

Don’t forget Michelle told us the debt was almost paid down, only to be told it wasn’t quite the case at trust meeting where then remarkably an extra £65,000 a month was needed in the form of loans.
Don’t trust our board at all especially after they got found out over the FC 100.000 and yes they luckily got found out and you can tell they’re still annoyed about it.
I’m glad you can just keep giving them as much as you can.

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I don’t understand why you don’t get that they paid nothing for the shares, histrionics show that Hilton paid £3 for the whole 8,900,000 of them from Swanny, who in turn gave them to Michelle who then in turn allocated (ie gave) to the 3 directors to be equal.
You can hope all you want but it won’t change the facts.

[Awaywego]

“Hardly likely to join her without an equal holding” answers the question.

And the main talking point on the Facebook site is. Does anyone know if the club shop is open tomorrow.

[Awaywego]

Well it wasn’t hard to do Michelle was given the shares in the first place, and they were hardly likely to join her without an equal holding.
Begs the question how the loans could be converted into equity.

[Awaywego]

Get real, highest crowds we’ve had in long while, and they are only running one team how are things going to get any better especially once we’re not challenging in whatever division we’re in.
The debt will only grow, you wrote that lengthy piece on football finance and got it right it’s just how it is I’m afraid, we at least need football league status to attract another sugar daddy to waste his money on.
If the club don’t gain promotion I’d be happy with administration and the 15 point deduction to attract that man.
Director loans aren’t classed as football debt so would be lucky to get 25% of their cash back twould make it a lot easier for a new owner to come in.

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“that takes the club north of £1,000,000 north owing the director’s”
And Deerey said have you fact checked that.
Well I have now Deerey.
Told you we were doing it the opposite way instead of starting a footy club with £10,000,000 and ending up with £1,000,000

[Awaywego]

Bring back honest Dave over this rabble.
And there are some of you bending over backwards to put your money into the club without expecting a penny back but all they do his put loans in,with expectations of every penny back on demand.
Certainly no different to Swanny and hopefully they’ll get the same outcome when they move on sweet fa.
Certainly not what was expected and extra £1.4 million debt hanging over the club like a millstone, you wanted change but got same old same old.
Should at least show Apollo that it is a business and not some community for us all.
Don’t get me wrong that’s only what I’ve expected of any owner, they purchase a club spend whatever they want, build the debts up then at some point walk away and I’d be happy with that, I’ve said all along I’m happy someone putting money in by whatever means,other than with these owners who led us to believe it would be something different.

[Awaywego]

Bloody hell just seen there’s storm Dave heading our way at the weekend.
That sounds ominous. Does that mean he’s going to kick up a stink tomorrow.

[Awaywego]

The thing is a lot of the same people on here post on the Facebook site even one of our mods post on there, how do they distinguish between the good and the toxic.

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