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  • in reply to: Transfer news sponsor #322098
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    Lack of sponsorship acknowledgement / crediting oversight is a common phenomenon

    Not if you’re Jackson Stapleton Accountants it isn’t!

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    in reply to: Transfer news sponsor #322078
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    If I were “Transfer News Sponsor”, I’d be quite miffed at the lack of a mention either here or on the pages announcing Barrows’/Jones’s contract extensions…

    https://www.scunthorpe-united.co.uk/news/2026/june/pilgrims-player-of-the-season-becomes-irons-next-summer-recruit/

    What exactly are they getting for the money? (or have they failed to make the requisite payment, as evidently happened in their previous incarnation in respect of a number of creditors??)

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    in reply to: Transfer news sponsor #321998
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    Yes, the title of the story is misleading in that only a fraction of the debt was owed to HMRC, but the closeness of the ‘new’ owners (founder’s father and previous managing director) to the original company seems suspicious at best.

    I suppose it is technically “trading under different ownership”, though I don’t think I’d be especially happy with this turn of events if I’d been a creditor of the initial company.

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    Good to see a recent pre-pack administration has allowed them to shaft creditors by 90p in the pound in favour of the Iron…

    https://www.gbnews.com/money/business-closures-potions-cauldron-administration-debt-hmrc

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    in reply to: First Iron player younger than you #321725
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    Mistake from me too – Barra it is.

    As manager though, presumably?

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    in reply to: First Iron manager younger than you #321716
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    Baraclough for me

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    Dave Hill’s a few weeks older than me..

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    in reply to: First Iron player younger than you #321714
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    …..and now I realise I’ve made the same mistake myself.

    Shaun Finney made his debut before Tony Daws, and is younger than me, as is Willie Ferry, whose debut was three days after Finney’s.

    Daws’ debut was two years later, so he’s the oldest person younger than me to have played for the Iron, but not the first player younger than me to play for the Iron. Finney is.

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    Looks like it’s Brian Laws for me which then also makes him the first manager younger

    Laws was 35 when he made his debut for the Iron. Given that the rest of the team that day were younger than him, he can’t have been the first player younger than you to make his debut for the Iron.

    He might be the oldest person younger than you to have played for the Iron, but that’s a different question!

    Mine’s Tony Daws, whichever way you interpret the question.

    in reply to: Ewing to forest green #321601
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    Was it simply to get a transfer fee? Cant think of any other reason.

    Possibly, but compensation is due for players under 24 if they have been offered a contract regardless of such an option, and the club stated that they had to offer a new contract “to retain compensation rights should the midfielder decide to move on”, which suggests that the option itself didn’t achieve this.

    I can understand the club not wanting to go to a tribunal, but they state that “the two clubs negotiated over a transfer fee to mitigate the need for a tribunal”, which suggests that the option didn’t help on that score either.

    in reply to: Ewing to forest green #321592
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    Horton’s option was appearance-based and was triggered earlier in the season: https://x.com/HumbersideSport/status/2029874648788140444

    Ewing said something along the lines of his option having a few criteria that needs to be met: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0lwd6f2

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    At least the Horton option gives the impression that somebody at the club understands how options are meant to work.

    In the case of the Ewing one, an option that needs to be agreed by both parties might as well not exist. As Ewing himself said in that interview, “it’s effectively a one year contract”, which indeed it turned out to be.

    For him to have stayed any longer, another contract was always going to be needed, except in the highly unlikely event that Ewing felt he was lucky to have the existing one and wanted to keep the same terms.

    I’d genuinely welcome any explanation as to the purpose of the option that the club activated, given it had no validity unless Ewing inexplicably neglected to reject it in favour of negotiating new terms either here or elsewhere. Any ideas?

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    in reply to: Ewing to forest green #321564
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    If you’re referring to the link I put above, I’d disagree, unless the option was in Ewing’s favour, which is possible but unlikely.

    I don’t think it was ever an option in the club’s favour. There was an interview with Butler half way through the season where he confirmed that, but the explanations have never been clear. I’m reliably informed it will be explained in detail when his departure is announced.

    So according to this, the option was in the club’s favour…
    https://www.scunthorpe-united.co.uk/news/2026/june/oli-ewing-leaves-the-iron-for-undisclosed-fee/

    …but was effectively meaningless as Ewing was allowed to reject the “option” within seven days of the end of the season.

    Technically the retained list published on 8th May may have been accurate, given our last match was on 3rd May and Ewing may not have rejected it when published, but it’s the least effective option I’ve ever come across as it doesn’t appear to have had any benefit to the club whatsoever if still required to offer an improved contract to retain compensation rights.

    Given what was published…
    https://www.scunthorpe-united.co.uk/news/2026/may/iron-retained-list-2025-26/

    …does anyone have a clue as to the current status of the “option activated” on Branden Horton?

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    “Folk with better memories than me can probably think of examples of players who might have drawn a fee but the option wasn’t exercised in case this scenario occurred.”

    Just thought of an example, though might be wrong as to whether this actually happened…

    Presumably we had an option on Rob Jones? Surely we would never have risked another year of a record signing’s wages by exercising an option given his performances for us? An example where the option wouldn’t be exercised and the player allowed to leave on a free transfer, even if he went on to play well elsewhere, as Jones did.

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    The retainment announcement made it sound like he had signed an extension

    If you’re referring to the link I put above, I’d disagree, unless the option was in Ewing’s favour, which is possible but unlikely.

    When things were “going well”, contracts were typically offered with a further year’s option in the club’s favour, meaning that a fee could be guaranteed if the extension was activated and the player was sold promptly.

    However, the player could still opt to run down the contract to leave on a free a year later, so there was always a gamble if the player wasn’t necessarily guaranteed to play. Folk with better memories than me can probably think of examples of players who might have drawn a fee but the option wasn’t exercised in case this scenario occurred.

    In this case, if the club have exercised an option, Ewing is under contract and we would be guaranteed a fee if he leaves. Even if Ewing himself has exercised the option, he is under contract and we would be guaranteed a fee if he leaves.

    In neither of those circumstances is the club waiting to see whether he’ll stay, as he would be under contract already if what has been stated by the club has happened. That doesn’t mean he can’t be sold, and indeed probably would be if he intimates that he wants to go, particularly if the extension was exercised by the club, but neither of these circumstances fits the scenario that “he’s out of contract” if an option has been exercised.

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    Hes out of contract,the option exercised wasnt an extension it was an offer matching his current salary to at least make sure we get compo,which will be less than a proper fee.

    If that’s right, it’s pretty disingenuous as that’s simply not an “option activated”, though that’s clearly stated here:
    https://www.scunthorpe-united.co.uk/news/2026/may/iron-retained-list-2025-26/

    How is what you describe different from “offered new contract and currently negotiating”?

    Not having a go, as it’s not really for you to answer; more for the club to explain how and why they should put out such clearly misleading comms if you’re right…

    Having said that, it’s not the first time, as we’ve been told the debt has been largely paid off, when in reality it’s simply now owed to the directors rather than external creditors. Admittedly that’s a better position to be in, but it’s not the impression that was repeatedly given.

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    in reply to: Category A fixtures #321336
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    Dodgy Dave tried to shortcut because he didn’t have the money

    Yes he did.

    Simon Elliott (remember him?) said so.

    in reply to: Billy Sharp #320505
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    Top stat work.

    Apparently the first ever player to score a Football League hat trick in his teens, 20s, 30s and 40s.

    Never did it for us though, despite 11 braces.

    Cheers. To be fair, I read the first bit online; the second was a vague memory confirmed by Soccerbase.

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    Apparently the first ever player to score a Football League hat trick in his teens, 20s, 30s and 40s.

    Never did it for us though, despite 11 braces.

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    in reply to: Jimmy D at Spalding #320501
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    For the true Jimmy D obsessives out there…

    Can’t say I’ve watched it myself, but found it posted elsewhere online.

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    Promoted.

    https://www.flashscore.co.uk/match/football/real-bedford-v9Uh7P4d/spalding-united-xE61RzXj/?isDetailPopup=true

    That ‘late penalty equaliser’ wasn’t quite as late as it might appear; over fifteen minutes’ stoppage time was played in the second half.

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    in reply to: Billy Sharp #320231
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    Didn’t manage it. Not a bad way to end a career if that’s it though…

    *apologies for forgetting about the other recent thread about him; mods feel free to merge if possible.

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    For anyone interested…
    https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/spalding-united-one-game-away-from-history-after-play-off-semi-final-success-8290894

    Real Bedford have significant investment from “tech bro” types including the Winklevoss brothers (who successfully sued Zuckerberg over Facebook) so might be a tricky match…

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    in reply to: 2024-25 accounts #318868
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    Don’t forget Michelle told us the debt was almost paid down, only to be told it wasn’t quite the case at trust meeting where then remarkably an extra £65,000 a month was needed in the form of loans.

    It’s certainly true that communication around this has been disingenuous at best, but I suspect that what Michelle meant was that external creditors have largely been paid off.

    Clearly this is positive, as it’s external creditors who are likely to issue winding-up orders if not paid.

    What wasn’t clear at the time was that director loans had been required to achieve this.

    It’s a worry that the club appears to be far from sustainability given the current crowds (how many would there be if we were struggling?), but the amount of money loaned by the directors is worthy of praise. Even if repayment is expected down the line, these loans are interest free, and therefore at significant opportunity cost to the directors.

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    in reply to: 2024-25 accounts #318775
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    Kieran Maguire’s take on the accounts. Slightly more positive than I’d expected, if I’m honest…

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0n9zmgz?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

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    in reply to: 2024-25 accounts #318695
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    Accounts “being processed and will be available in ten days” on the Companies House website.

    in reply to: Drummer #318485
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    Each to his own Awaywego. You’ll be telling me you enjoy listening to Billy the Trumpeter (Barmy Army cricket) playing the same three tunes badly for five days in a row next.

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    in reply to: Halifax Away #318441
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    Prediction time
    My starting 11

    Jones

    JB Rb
    Horton Lb
    Evans n Boyce

    Ewing Rowley Westbrooke
    Beestin
    Roberts Whall Jones

    Apologies for pedantry, but that’s a starting 12!

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    in reply to: Season ticket small adjustment. #318418
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    I’m of the opinion that they needed to go up this much, the last owner really screwed the business over with stupid pricing

    Agreed. Season Tickets have been joke pricing (in fans’ favour) for the last few years.

    Hard to make fair comparisons when our position has changed, but my season ticket for 2015-6 in the West Stand cost £360. I think it cost the same for a few seasons before that too but can’t find evidence of that.

    Even allowing for the fact that we’ll be two divisions (hopefully one) below the division we were in then, the fact that an increase that some folk are complaining about doesn’t take us back to the prices of 11(+?) seasons ago suggests that the point above is correct.

    For comparison, a mate’s renewal price for Rotherham in a similar seat in League One (as we were in 2015-16) cost him £485 this year (£535 for new ticket holders). However, his ticket next year will be cheaper than mine as they still operate senior tickets at 60+, which seems generous nowadays.

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    in reply to: Feed the ego #318203
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    A quick Google search suggests that FC100000 was such a cracking idea that no club ever got involved, founder Will Brooks has resigned from the company and a month ago the First Gazette notice for voluntary strike off was published, suggesting the company will cease to exist in a month or so’s time.

    And still it’s easy to get the impression that some board members resent the ‘interference’ that effectively blocked their plans.

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