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    Apollo11Apollo11
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    I don’t think it’s fair to say they are as contemptuous as the previous two incumbents, but they risk losing good will, as argued. They can’t ride on the coat tails of saving the club forever without scrutiny.

    For the record, I agree. I don’t think they are as contemptuous – I raised it as an extreme to generate debate. They certainly do risk losing the goodwill of some, though. Mostly those for who the effects of the Kool Aid have worn off, and who are prepared to actually stand back, look at the situation and think with some clarity (as per SODIron).

    It’s the little things as well as the big (issues). The noticeable groaning and scoffing from the board at Matt Blanchard’s questions during that AGM thing – quietly out of order, imho. If anyone / anything deserves respect it’s actually Bru and Trust (especially over PD, Unity, Army and Hour)… Again, not to decry the enthusiasm or good intentions of those, but in the long game they’re not that credible, imho. They’re too close to be able to see properly, when needs be.

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    #318150
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    The disdain towards the Trust / Bru all seemed to stem from the 100k club fiasco (or whatever nonsense it was called). That was the impression I got from their responses during the fans forum anyway…they honestly still thought that it was a great idea that had the rug pulled from under them because of “noisy” fans.

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    #318151
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    The disdain towards the Trust / Bru all seemed to stem from the 100k club fiasco (or whatever nonsense it was called). That was the impression I got from their responses during the fans forum anyway…they honestly still thought that it was a great idea that had the rug pulled from under them because of “noisy” fans.

    I seem to remember that, around the fiasco you mention, it was said that a member of the Trust and Mr Aitkenhead got into a shouting match?

    #318152
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    I don’t think it’s fair to say they are as contemptuous as the previous two incumbents, but they risk losing good will, as argued. They can’t ride on the coat tails of saving the club forever without scrutiny.

    For the record, I agree. I don’t think they are as contemptuous – I raised it as an extreme to generate debate. They certainly do risk losing the goodwill of some, though. Mostly those for who the effects of the Kool Aid have worn off, and who are prepared to actually stand back, look at the situation and think with some clarity (as per SODIron).

    It’s the little things as well as the big (issues). The noticeable groaning and scoffing from the board at Matt Blanchard’s questions during that AGM thing – quietly out of order, imho. If anyone / anything deserves respect it’s actually Bru and Trust (especially over PD, Unity, Army and Hour)… Again, not to decry the enthusiasm or good intentions of those, but in the long game they’re not that credible, imho. They’re too close to be able to see properly, when needs be.

    There’s something ironic about how those who made out Bru were unquestioning ‘Swann lovers’ and didn’t scrutinise the club were the ones who did that with Hilton and are doing so now.

    #318153
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    And they’re still holding on to it BLT, isn’t the ground ban on Danny Stamp still ongoing.

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    The disdain towards the Trust / Bru all seemed to stem from the 100k club fiasco (or whatever nonsense it was called). That was the impression I got from their responses during the fans forum anyway…they honestly still thought that it was a great idea that had the rug pulled from under them because of “noisy” fans.

    The antipathy from the Board towards Bru and the Trust noticeably increased after that episode (not forgetting some of those that have been elevated since were signed up to the promo add) but they surely saw the outcry about entertaining fc1000 went way beyond Trust and Bru. It was heavily decried from most quarters

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    #318159
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    The disdain towards the Trust / Bru all seemed to stem from the 100k club fiasco (or whatever nonsense it was called). That was the impression I got from their responses during the fans forum anyway…they honestly still thought that it was a great idea that had the rug pulled from under them because of “noisy” fans.

    The antipathy from the Board towards Bru and the Trust noticeably increased after that episode (not forgetting some of those that have been elevated since were signed up to the promo add) but they surely saw the outcry about entertaining fc1000 went way beyond Trust and Bru. It was heavily decried from most quarters

    So if it’s not the issues themselves, it could be to do with the personalities involved then.

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    A quick Google search suggests that FC100000 was such a cracking idea that no club ever got involved, founder Will Brooks has resigned from the company and a month ago the First Gazette notice for voluntary strike off was published, suggesting the company will cease to exist in a month or so’s time.

    And still it’s easy to get the impression that some board members resent the ‘interference’ that effectively blocked their plans.

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    #318205
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    Criticism / doubts about the Weekender and it’s timing compounded the attitude of club to certain sections of supporters I think. Again, another lame duck backed by some who have been elevated. I’m not saying it’s all bad by any means but if Butler is going to be selective in praise, then let’s get some perspective. Or are we supposed to believe these ventures would have been successful if everyone was more ‘positive’?

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    #318222
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    The relationship had waned before FC100000.
    I remember the Iron Trust AGM in which the Whole board attended ,the one before last.
    Michelle Harness was asked a direct question about the shares set aside for sales and when it would begin ,I cannot remember the exact wording of the question but Michell’s answer was most telling, there was no actual stock of shares owned by the club for such events and any such sales would come from her personal holding. At the time I found that at odds with what had become the party line and common knowledge that there was this stock of shares available and money from it’s would go directly into the club, perfect for a trust and it’s stated aims. I won’t be trawling through the net for corroboration but this is how I remember the narrative and nobody from the club ever dismissed the idea .
    After that night the club also contacted the trust to complain about releasing verbatim minutes of the evening, something I also felt to be odd.
    After this came the FC100000 debacle which further divided the relationship.
    The next blow to the trust was somewhat self inflicted, the tie up with merch labs after their much publicised and somewhat acrimonious dismissal from GP led to sanctions and legal threats about Using the Unity crest on merch despite the profits being intended to make their way back to SUFC. I did contact the new club shop franchise owners and the denied knowledge of any such threat so this was entirely from within SUFC and petty. The great Irony being the club didn’t even design the much used crest ,a member of the trust actually commissioned it during the Don Rowing era. Not only did they ban them from using that crest they also banned them from selling other merch at trust corner, other supporter groups have no such restrictions. This is clearly personal .
    The next slap in the face was the trust’s share save scheme which despite a very lukewarm rection from the club still raised a fair wedge ,not sure where that money went .The club wanted nothing to do with it and in my opinion were shamed into going along with it as they couldn’t explain why there would be shares for FC1000000 and where they would come from, they have never explained.

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    #318223
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    Maybe the club was embarrassed about the minutes been released, at around the time Michelle had said the debts were almost paid down, but then in the meeting it was then said the club needed an extra £65,000 a month of which was being loaned by certain directors.
    Not exactly the debts been paid down far from it.

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    I’ve never found out hat the objection was

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    As each week goes by it feels to me like Dave and the Iron Hour gang are the unofficial spokespersons for the club.

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    Well, at least it’s better than a drug pusher to kids.

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    #318430
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    Well, at least it’s better than a drug pusher to kids.

    Positivity Sherbert, you mean?

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    As each week goes by it feels to me like Dave and the Iron Hour gang are the unofficial spokespersons for the club.

    Indeed it seems these particular fans are being spoon fed sufc updates to circulate into the wider fan base ..unless of course the updates are negative or involving finances and transfers etc..
    Predicting with the amount of leg work and bottom licking PD is currently undertaking there may well be some kind of position lined up for him in the future ” fan liaison officer ”
    the plethora of PD cringeworthy FB posts must be for brownie points and to gain some traction with the club.
    As a relatively new fan still unsure where he appeared from and more so how long he will hang about as the positivity and enthusiasm dwindles.
    Its all harmless but non the less smacks of self importance back slapping and becoming very tediously over positive.
    Stopped reading anything he posts now as made my eyes bleed .. take away PD post and it leaves very little to actually read on the SUFCFFBP

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    I’m not suggesting they’re being spoon fed updates, more like assuming they are spokespersons for the club and not being discouraged from that mindset. As someone said the other day, ‘useful idiots’. I don’t particularly dislike them either, they do some activity that benefits the club, rather than just their own profiles, it’s more an observation. Though I’m not a big fan of it either. Prefer if they maintained a bit of distance and independence.

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    #318499
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    Dave and them on tuther side keep saying “let’s sing loud and proud” spew worthy indeed.

    #318652
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    Sorry fellow Bru ppl but here he latest from bullshit Dave ..this must be a piss take posted on SUFC FB page replying to Jason the advisor Herbert…whom is also growing wings within the clubs hiarachy.
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    Jason to have been the places I’ve been and met the people I met all down to my Dad who was my best friend but a tough taskmaster, I didn’t think he was fair at the time but now I realise it was only him wanting both my Brother & me succeed in Life, he was both Assessor & Chief Scout at Barnsley and Leeds and assessor at Wolves before he died, I helped him when my footballing career was cut short, he didn’t drive so I was one of his drivers and went to so many grounds , so many matches – Special times , I’m not sure what he would make of ” Positivity ” Dave ? probably ” Daft Bugger ! ” 🤣😂Thanks Jason I was back with him for a minute there ❤️UTI !

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    The cult group is like a Petri dish for narcissists it seems.

    #318657
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    Any association with Herbert from the club, the unity group or Iron Hour needs nipping in the bud. He is a ‘toxic element’ and will create division, never mind is association with drug pushing to minors.

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    #318658
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    as the time passes n posts attest .. PD is indeed a man on mission ..chief scout is his aim ..

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    Mr “Positivity” Dave is now claiming there is ‘no cure for cancer’ in regards to this message board. The mask has slipped, what a sick individual.

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    #319337
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    So where’s he joking about cancer?

    Aww you guys, Iron Bru not getting recognition anymore?

    #319339
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    So where’s he joking about cancer?

    Aww you guys, Iron Bru not getting recognition anymore?

    “No Cure for Cancer” is a stand up show by US controversial comedian Denis Leary who jokes about smoking, disabilities and death, about 30 years ago

    You talk about attention Steve well you hoofed this thread, lol.

    Still hanging round GP like a bad smell pretending to work

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    It’s a fair comment about Dennis Leary and a classic routine – well worth a watch. I doubt there’s a connection though. Or is there?

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    So where’s he joking about cancer?

    Aww you guys, Iron Bru not getting recognition anymore?

    “No Cure for Cancer” is a stand up show by US controversial comedian Denis Leary who jokes about smoking, disabilities and death, about 30 years ago

    You talk about attention Steve well you hoofed this thread, lol.

    Still hanging round GP like a bad smell pretending to work

    Is Denis Leary a Scunny fan? Was it him in the group?

    #319361
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    So where’s he joking about cancer?

    Aww you guys, Iron Bru not getting recognition anymore?

    Matters enough for you to post the usual bitterness. It’s funny how those who bemoan the ‘toxicity’ and ‘bitterness’ of Bru seem the most bitter at anyone with a different opinion.

    Though, I admit some have taken the Positivity Dave and drummer dislike too far.

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    [duplicated]

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