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nothing more clearer than the fact we need a striker or two … just hope Loft gets the chop .. hes just a piss taker along with 3 or 4 others whom Hill hopefully has wormed out .
Pleased to hear Rowe saying the group are happier under Hill as it aint rocket science how just one lightweight shit stirrer in the dressing room can upset the whole apple cart.Again goes back to Cox n Lillis inexperience and lax / weak management. If if if only Swan had got rid sooner.. hindsight is a wonderful thing .
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Hill schmill.
My money is still firmly on non-league for the foreseeable future, many of us will never see a return to league football.
Merry Christmas Swann, you utter turd.Yes sadly pretty much my feelings … depending on the ins and outs next month im holding out a wiff of survival but if push came to shove and using my head not heart i had to put 500 quid on as a bet it would have to be on the Iron going out the league, ans as previously said looking at the NL its very difficult getting out of it again (at the right end.
All i want for Christmas is SUFC league survival … is that too much to ask Santa ??Hope everyone had/has a great Xmas day and a safe and prosperous New Year
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Rover recently filled the away end at Walsal .. and according to a mate saddlers fan best away fans hes seen for a long time.
Its a must win for us .. anything less and January transfers or not it makes the Oldham n Carlisle fixtures even bigger.
AGREE … WORST FRONT LINE EVER AT THE CLUB .
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The Oldham n Carlisle games are massive ..IF IF we can win those its a whole new ball game loose one or both and the writing would be on the wall….WOULD’NT IT ???
I follow the Carlisle YT .. nice young man who was “over the moon” at their away win at Stevenage at the weekend and thinks now they will pull clear and finished comfortable mid table.. as he commented the NYD fixture against Scunny is a must NOT LOOSE game for them.
Only bright side is it appears the Codheads NL honeymoon is over as they are falling down the table quicker than my gran after a bottle of sherry.UP THE IRON …KEEP THE FAITH
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Echo previous post .. IF ONLY Cox n Lillis had be relieved of their duties sooner and Hill in a few weeks / months sooner .. thats hindsight im afraid.
MASSIVE IMPROVEMENT under Kieth hill … but only ANOTHER DRAW .. thats 4 on the bounce in L2 if im not mistaken, whilst great not to loose its wins that are needed and looking at the current table its hard to see a way out of this mess with our current tame strike force and lack of any real threat in the final third…hoping Hill can remedy this in January.
I watched the game on internet as usual and some highlights (use the term loosely) here via YT
also Gareths excellent Ironarmy vlog .. maybe some of you guys are included and well done to the 300 plus who made the trip on a freezing wet n windy day.
Some huge games coming up notably Oldham , Carlisle ..real 6 pointers , in truth every fixture is massive now and come the New Year things will be all the more clearer.. hopefully on a positive side.
For the most part Covid restrictions lifted here from 16th Dec so my business can re open which is great but means more traveling so harder to follow the footy and the forum.
Early i know but wishing all members and Iron fans a safe and happy Christmas and New Year.
Not easy but .. KEEP THE FAITH .. UP THE IRON… CLARET N BLUE ALL WAY THROUGH..
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I think we can all agree that things appear to be heading in the right direction since KH took the reins however, one thing we need to happen quickly is wins!
Whilst improved performances indicate that he’s slowly turning things around we must remember that we need to finish 22nd to avoid being relegated. When we look back at the last few seasons, we can see on average a team needs 47 points to avoid relegation, with both Bristol Rovers and Barnet being relegated with 50 & 51 points respectively. The big question is “How many points do we need this season for safety?”.
Looking at the League 2 table we can see the teams in the relegation battle zone (20th or lower) are all averaging 1 point per game or less. Based on the form from the start of the season we have Carlisle, Oldham and of course us all projected to get less than 40 points for the season. Whilst we could potentially survive the drop on 40 points, I feel that we should be targeting a minimum of 48 points as this would give us a greater chance of avoiding relegation. The issue then becomes how do we get 34 points from the remaining 27 matches? We need KH to start turning this team of dustbins into a cohesive unit quickly so we can start to scrape a few wins and get those points on the board. We were thankful for Orients wasted opportunities last week, and the Bradford match could have gone either way.
December is a very important month for us, and the next two matches could really make or break our season. We need to win the Stevenage match to pull them right into the mix. If we can follow that with an away win at a out of form Hartlepool United (they’ve lost 5 on the bounce) we’ll be able to take some confidence into the Bristol home match, and the very important away match at Oldham on Boxing Day. A few good results this month could see us pull out of the drop zone, and more importantly, drag more teams into the battle. Failing to beat Stevenage and Oldham won’t relegate us, but it will make our job of survival so much harder. I feel that come the end of December we’ll have a much clearer understanding just where we’ll finish come the end of the season!
Add to that Carlisle at home Jan 1st … after that fixture things will be a whole lot clearer more so if we are still in the mix to stay up .. may reflect on the Jan transfer window signings ins n outs.
Re your 48 pt target … yes im more optimistic now , i like Keith Hill but ….48 is a tall order and im thinking 40 to 45 max which may or may not be enough ..i doubt it will be.
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many accurate comments added overnight all of which i agree with .. (i watched on tinernet then always check out Gareths ironarmy vlog Sunday mornings.)
Way better performance great first half.
more desire effort n fight
Fitness improving
100% we would of lost both Orient n Bradford under Cox
it was a joke for months with Cox and players took the piss .. now with Hill thats changed , experience and hes got the number of the likes of Loft.
weather a huge factor
my lingering though (in hindsight) if only Swan had got Hill in a month or two earlier ??
next run of games are winnable and im crossing everything even my ears we can pick up enough points to get out and away from the bottom zone ..
Carlisle won today which isnt great as apparently they played a lot better than they have been.
I watched a local match here and its not good terrible bent officials and players with egos like Loft but worse YES WORSE who spend more time rolling around slightly injured breaks up play n spoils it massively. ..really miss the buzz of attending UK/Scunny games and i urge all fans that can go to GP to go and get behind the lads.
a month ago i was doom n gloom .. we looked down but after recent games something is changing and there is hope.. Hill could save us and i like how he makes decisions re Hackney etc Cox would have dithered as too nice guy..Hill is experienced organized and ruthless as Mr Loft is hopefully gonna find out come the New Year.
Try to get Ohara another good call , be interesting to see what happens in January ..hopefully we will still be in touch and able to stay in the league.UP THE IRON
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I hope Swan will splash some cash in January ..alas realistically i dont see it happening .. cant even be arsed to chuck in the funds to fix the scoreboard at GP… hopefully as previously posted we will still be in touch with others. its already looking like a 3 horse relegation battle as it stands now.
UP THE IRON
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A points gap is starting to appear and IMO by January we may have missed the boat regardless who Hill signs .. Carlisle also looking bad whilst Oldham do still have enough to scrap a win or two. Hopefully any other clubs will fall away and go on a loosing streak ..thats our only chance to stay up with this current mob.. if i were a betting man sadly it would be in us dropping out the league this year.
i watched the “Highlights” and i use the term loosely .. also the excellent Ironarmy YT vlog as Gareth is always fair n balanced.
Fans were great .. team and performance shambolic defending and piss weak attack.
Wilson not getting a sniff ..not even keeping the bench warm.
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spot on post WG .. something has changed .. hindsight is a wonderful thing what if Swan had ditched Cox / Lillis n got Hill in a month sooner??
Im guessing more will come out in the future as to just how piss poor Cox actions and management style were.Up the Iron
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Be interesting to see Mr Hills team formation n personal chosen.
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This got me thinking about the past Scunny fan chants .. all be it i now watch via livestream how quiet the fans are nowadays .. totally understandable with attendances dwindling and not a lot to cheer in recent times… any atmosphere creating noise is welcome even if it possibly contains a bit of soft racist banter .. ” wings of a sparrow arse of a cow ” ..alas in the UK today indeed many other countries society appears all to woke and having recently watched some old episodes of Little Britain , Love Thy Neighbour and Til death do us part it compounds my opinion how silly things have become.
sorry if on wrong thread btw ..dont wanna upset anyone 5555
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I used to do the markets in Scunny ,York ,Donny Sheffield and Cleethorpes and had / still have a few very good traveler mates in and around Lincs n West Yorkshire area , for more reasons than i wish to state gimme a pikey over a dingy diver any day.
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The thought that COVID is the main cause re stay away fans is at best an excuse or a cop out not wanting to recognize the real reason which is no buggar likes to go watch their team loose week in week out whilst loosing with out a fight and effort.
I am not based in the UK so cannot comment on the Covid situation there but now i very much doubt more than a hand full are staying away due to it .. i may be wrong.
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