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  • #217574
    ironrich1ironrich1
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    Genuinely baffling.

    #217575
    premierironpremier iron
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    Thought he would have given him some time in the game.

    #217576
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    And the irony of it is:

    Supply Loft and Scrimshaw with decent crosses and they may well score.

    3 people on the books that can cross a ball. Bunn but he doesn’t count because he’s always injured. O’Malley and Wilson are the others.

    Play them Keith. Every game.

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    #217577
    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    We would have given him game time, but Hill as only been here 5 minutes probably seen 2training sessions, if Cameron didn’t stand out why would he pick him?.

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    I suspect he’s chosen tonight’s match to properly run the rule over the 1st team players. Green if he wasn’t injured will be in for a harsh lesson because he was subbed fairly early on for Loft.

    I said yesterday that Loft and Scrimshaw will score if delivery is good into them. If we does go 4/4/2 I’d go O’Malley and Wilson on the wings…least the pair of them can cross a ball.

    Dare I say it, we looked more settled when Kenyon came on. Going back to Scrimshaw and Loft…the pair of them have shown they can finish so if Hill can drill the players to put some good balls into them, then you never know.

    Scrimshaw at times has showed he has some calmness in front of goal.

    #217581
    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Well I’m not the least bit interested in the competition and haven’t seen the game on i-follow but the stats on the OWS make interesting reading. When did we last have 61% possession, 12 shots with 7 on target? Even with a defeat some of the stats are more encouraging. As for Wilson if he shines in training and in practice matches his time will come, you don’t manage for 700 professional matches and miss the bleeding obvious.

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    #217583
    WonderGoalsWonderGoals
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    Iron awe, I should think Hill has seen all he’s needed to see from the 1st team players. Now he knows what he’s got in the 1st team squad, he’ll probably turn his attention to the younger one’s now.

    I hope that’s what happens anyway.

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    #217592
    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Me too WG, we have some very good young talent that deserves to be recognised and given a chance.

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    #217594
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    Those who didn’t see the game don’t be fooled by the stats.

    The game can be best summed up by “Keith went to the cupboard and the cupboard was bare”.

    I like Rowe when he plays full back and I like Pugh when he doesn’t. Both struggled out of position.

    Green and Hippolyte were, well Green and Hippolyte. At least Devarn had the good grace to hurt his hand or arm when he fell on his arse for the 17th time and go off injured. Jarvis used Loft’s introduction to disappear from the game totally until Scrimshaw came on to put him out of his misery.

    Wood looked like a boy in a man’s world.

    Watson was OK. Taft was OK. Perry hit a few decent passes. Hackney probably the pick of a poor midfield so of course he was the one they took off.

    Loft and Scrimshaw almost made a game of it when we somehow managed to get a couple of reasonable crosses in. It would have been a joy if Scrimshaw’s second excellent finish had not been ruled offside as it would have wiped the smile of that smug barsteward Wellins face. Donny were fairly inept and as petty as Wellins sides always are. The Donny trainer covered the most distance of anyone involved giving lots of pretend treatment to lots of pretend injuries.

    Hope you brought a big coat Keith, it’s going to be a long winter.

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    #217602
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    As Hill said he was using that as a glorified training match to see what Jarvis, Wood are about and how Rowe and Pugh looked in those positions. Hill surely will have realised that Rowe isn’t a CB and neither is pugh a RB.

    I suspect McMahan told him they were seen as naturals playing in those positions and wanted a look himself.

    Beestin, Manny rested. Kenyon got a run out so not too bad.

    Going by that Hill must realise he needs to play both Loft and Scrimshaw upfront now.

    4/3/1/2 ?

    Pugh, Beestin and Perry with Hackney in behind Scrimshaw and loft ?

    I think Hallam’s broke down yet again. Still not involved..another Swann masterstroke.

    What did Hallam’s medical consist of ?.

    Did somebody flick him and due to him staying upright was awarded a 2yr deal ?

    O’Neil isn’t injured and can’t even make the subs bench. Those 3 need moving on. Hopefully somebody would loan O’Neil, Bunn’s contract is only till end of season but Hallam will be the hard one to shift on.

    How many games has he played in these last 3 seasons ?. I’d like to think it will only be 20 odd, with him starting less than half.

    Absolute madness giving him another deal. We can I’ll afford to carry crocks and in O’Neil we have a dog and duck type striker in the ranks.

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    #217604
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    O’Neill had a try out for the dog and duck – they didn’t want him, they were looking for a footballer apparently…

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    #217605
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    What an odd game!
    Terrible in the first part of the first half; developed and started to show some promise; an incredible finish.
    Having only one fit CB was a bit dreadful. I agree with WG about Pugh and Rowe.
    Unfortunate first goal but as long as Manny is back Saturday – should be okay.

    What to do with midfield?
    Perry is a superb passer of the ball – best we’ve had in years – but his overall game ‘does not quite scour’ (Abe Lincoln.) He looks very young in his general play.

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    #217621
    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Maybe game time under Hills new approach will bring more maturity to Perry’s game les, he’s still only a young player and surely will benefit from an experienced head in charge of the team now.

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    Hill will give them all a chance. The concern for me was reading how many of Doncasters players came from their academy in last nights game. The young line-up went 3 up against an older squad of Scunthorpe !

    Want to see a RB actually as a right back, could not understand why Mr Cox saw Jai Rowe as a CB, but there again he had signed Millen so Millen would start if fit no matter previous failings.

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    Jai Rowe might one day make it as a centre back but right now he is our best right back so needs to play there.

    Even if Pugh was a decent stand in right back (he isn’t) he is our most consistent midfielder so needs to play there.

    Won’t take Mr Hill long to work out these things.

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    Jai Rowe might one day make it as a centre back but right now he is our best right back so needs to play there.

    Even if Pugh was a decent stand in right back (he isn’t) he is our most consistent midfielder so needs to play there.

    Won’t take Mr Hill long to work out these things.

    Or at least…we are all hoping it won’t.
    And hoping even more that “no-one” interferes, meddles or tries to help…this time.

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    Alcy I think appointing Keith Hill is an admission that the Championship Manager days are over.

    Hoping he now does the positive bit and support the manager with a bit of cash as I think the squad is 3 or 4 decent league level players short of achieving safety.

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    #217644
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    Whilst I’d love to see a team full of youth team graduates and I completely understand why people are so keen to see an exciting youngster, the obsession with Wilson among some posters on here is getting a bit odd. Let’s face it, Cox & Hill will have their reasons for not picking him yet, I’m sure his time will come, probably before too much longer.

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    obsession with Wilson among some posters on here is getting a bit odd.

    Recognising a young player with undoubted talent and promise in dour times like these is not the same as blindly obsessing about a player.

    You do over react at times.

    You’re right though, his time will come probably in the not too distant future.

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    #217665
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    How long was KK at the Iron before making his debut?
    Ditto Ray Clemence?
    And Kevin Kilmore?
    Neil Cox himself?

    We’ve tried playing safe, sticking to to the experienced players and are still rock bottom.
    What do de have to lose?
    Because the present system isn’t working

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    The reason why I hope to see more academy lads come through is because it boosts the aspirations of the others.

    Plus it helps attract better U16’s going forward.

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    KK made his debut against Peterborough aged 17 and went on to play 29 games that season.
    Didn’t Clemence make his debut at 17 in the 7-1 away disaster at Grimsby back in the day.
    Cox was playing regular at 18, not sure if he played younger for the first team then that.
    Mind you comparing Wilson to KK is a bit of a push but the lad will get his chance soon enough when the ” experienced ” manager decides he’s ready. Maybe this Saturday?

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    9 months before Ray Clemance made his debut, Cameron signed professionally in may during the close season and made his debut in the first game of the season impossible to get him in the team any quicker.

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    OK, granted, but what did he do wrong in that game that he’s not featured since?

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    Impossible to answer alcy but it wasn’t Keith Hill making the decision then not to play him was it, let’s see what happens next time he gets a go, let’s hope he shines.

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    Hill has a reputation of building young teams with a hint of experience.

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    Haven’t seen the lad play at all, but I’m with you Alcy give the lad a go,could understand it if we were top of the league but we’re rock bottom and like you say what do we have to lose.

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    Hill has a reputation of building young teams with a hint of experience.

    Well he’s got a good chance to prove that now mick.

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    Recognising a young player with undoubted talent and promise in dour times like these is not the same as blindly obsessing about a player.

    You do over react at times.

    Sure. I suppose my point is more about pinning all our hopes on a player who hasn’t ever started a League game. It’s great that he’s a hot prospect, I’d love to see more of him, but we need to be careful about piling too much expectation on a kid.

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    impossible to get him in the team any quicker.

    There have been umpteen times this season when we’ve been absolute dog mess going forward, you trying to tell me playing somebody like Wilson would have been any worse than the current offerings ?

    I beg to differ.

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