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    cliffbyrnesrightpegCliff Byrne’s Right Peg
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    Less than 2k home fans there today, albeit an Fa cup 1st round tie but staggeringly Low nonetheless.

    Even if we achieve the seemingly impossible at the minute and put together some form on the pitch, there will still be roughly 1,000 regulars missing.

    How do the club entice people back?

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    #217317
    IronaweIronawe
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    New Chairman – or at least a Chairman who follows through with what he says he will do rather than issue empty words for those gullible enough to lap it up and let him off.

    ….oh and start winning – that helps

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    #217318
    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    I thought the chairman was one of the missing 1000.

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    #217322
    mistertonmickmistertonmick
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    It’s OK supporters staying away and it is your decision, but if you stay away and come on here boasting about not coming and the club folded just remember you helped with the demise, I agree with the reasons like the chairman over the last 3 years and the dire football and negative tactics but if the club folded and the club restarted we would be playing Brigg and Barton OB or no club at all and then the owner could recoup his money on development of other projects.

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    #217330
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    Less than 2k home fans there today, albeit an Fa cup 1st round tie but staggeringly Low nonetheless.

    Even if we achieve the seemingly impossible at the minute and put together some form on the pitch, there will still be roughly 1,000 regulars missing.

    How do the club entice people back?

    It will be a long and difficult battle.
    Some of us on here tried to warn Swann that once supporters left, it would be very very difficult getting them back.
    Sadly, the fat man knew better. He’s an astute businessman, don’t y’know, with much knowledge and experience of the entertainment industry.

    Seems he didn’t do his research.

    On the one hand, we can spend our money and quite a lot of it, to sit/stand in a boring, draughty, ageing stadium, with poor sight lines, crap catering, filthy toilets, surly stewards and boring negative football. Oh, and a set of directors who referred to us as morons, couldn’t be *rsed to answer letters and treated us a nuisance afterthought.
    Or you can spend money on anything else and end up with more entertainment and satisfaction.

    Get them to come back?
    Aye.
    Right.

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    #217331
    alcazaralcazar
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    It’s OK supporters staying away and it is your decision, but if you stay away and come on here boasting about not coming and the club folded just remember you helped with the demise, I agree with the reasons like the chairman over the last 3 years and the dire football and negative tactics but if the club folded and the club restarted we would be playing Brigg and Barton OB or no club at all and then the owner could recoup his money on development of other projects.

    What’s your point?
    No-one who has stopped going should return while the Swanns are still there.

    Otherwise, you are condoning what he/they have done.

    If we fold, maybe they will b*gger off.
    And we can get behind the new club as it rises up the leagues.

    With the support following you envisage, it should be easy?

    #217333
    mistertonmickmistertonmick
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    I think if you ask Chester, Bury, Macclesfield, Rushden & Diamonds and Darlington fans i don’t think they would agree with you alcy with going down that route

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    #217336
    IronaweIronawe
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    Mick, that is the narrative the chairman has used several times now. If the fans don’t come back then the existence of the club is under threat. Funny how all these clubs you mention which have gone to the wall – how many went there through fan behaviour or how many went there through scandalous chairmanship – this should never be on the fans.

    #217338
    mistertonmickmistertonmick
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    I’m not blaming the fans but the owners can easily pull the plug,I have hated match days the last three years, but would miss it if we packed up, or I could start going to watch Gainsborough Trinity again.

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    #217339
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    Well, I’m one of the missing 1000 and the reason for this? This is the fourth season of crap unentertaining and losing football and I’ve had enough wasting my time and money on a Saturday afternoon, I can find better things to do with my time.
    I have no interest in the doings and utterances of the chairman, I’m only interested in what is happening on the pitch, when things improve on the pitch then I’ll be back, hopefully sooner rather than later.

    #217344
    cliffbyrnesrightpegCliff Byrne’s Right Peg
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    Fingers crossed then forgotten that Keith Hill can turn it around and get you and a few more back.

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    #217347
    morris left footmorris_left_foot
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    Did Doncaster have more fans at the game than there were Scunthorpe fans? I can’t make weekend matches, but a Donny supporting friend reckoned that they literally outnumbered the Scunthorpe support. That’s a sad indictment of true…

    #217348
    bartonscorpionbartonscorpion
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    It’s OK supporters staying away and it is your decision, but if you stay away and come on here boasting about not coming and the club folded just remember you helped with the demise, I agree with the reasons like the chairman over the last 3 years and the dire football and negative tactics but if the club folded and the club restarted we would be playing Brigg and Barton OB or no club at all and then the owner could recoup his money on development of other projects.

    Mick—-I cannot agree with your description of missing fans coming on this forum boasting about not attending, boasting is completely the wrong word pal, because it is the first season in 71 years that I have not attended every home match that has been available for, yes I missed many games when working overseas, but even planned my home leaves after consulting the fixture list. But to use the word boasting Mick, I spend many hours hurting when things are going really bad for Scunny, and complain rather than boast about things that I think are the reasons for the clubs terrible place we find them in right now.

    The negative boring, defensive rubbish is the problem, and Cox was the main but not only reason for this, I am exactly the same as “forgoyyen” regarding my reason for not attending, and just the same, I will be one of the first to return when or if things change, and with this new manager things sound to be moving in the right direction. Regarding the money side of things, last season cost me £460 in i-follower fees instead of my £220 season ticket, and I have and will continue paying this season, that is when clubs can be bothered to show them, but I made the choice to not renew my season ticket of 13 years for the sole reason of the entertainment no longer being present at GP, and I really hope it soon changes, so not boasting Mick, but entertainment and enjoyment not being present at the moment is my reason!!!!

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    #217350
    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    Would tend to agree. I don’t think anyone has boasted about staying away, merely telling it how it is from their point of view.

    I remember the low gates from the 70s. Remind me what encouraged the fans back then.

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    #217355
    ironfromafarironfromafar
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    Re the missing 1000 … a combination of

    Shit football
    No one likes to constantly watch crap football and your team loosing week in week out.

    Dislike of owners .. keeping disgruntled fans away.

    Overall are the club are offering a shit product ?? ..match day experience , crap food and a depressing atmos etc , former regular fans will find other ways to spend a Saturday afternoon .. cutting the grass, going the bingo , a tupperware party or painting the spare bedroom more enticing.

    Covid and the economic effect

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    #217356
    IronaweIronawe
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    Ironfromafar pretty much sums it up. The entertainment value is the lowest in my time (40years). These last 4 years are the purse strings and wrong decisions from the Chairman. Historians will look back on the time the Chairman got rid of the scouting set up and then – as his family has a stranglehold on the board appointed his young son – no competence, no experience, no basis in reality to this decision – and then tried to get the manager to take the flack. This led to player purchase by agency friend or indeed a round of golf – utter utter incompetence.

    #217357
    alcazaralcazar
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    And he had the gall to say the club had been run like a hobby under Wharton.

    It probably was…but to say that and then come and run it like a family playing X-Box… unbelievable.

    #217360
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    For me the problem is solely the chairman for 2 reasons.
    1.He is incompetent-Not sure that there is a cure for this.
    2.He lacks credibility.I cannot see this being restored in the short term.It would be better if he stood down and let someone else (presumably his wife) herald a new start.

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    #217363
    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    Ironawe2 it was under Wharton that we got rid of our scouting system not swanny, Wharton allowed Knill to bring in S club 7 (well something like that) and get rid of Turnbull, at that moment in time when Turnbull had brought in so many great players in Wharton should have put Knill in his place and told him you will go before Turnbull.

    #217365
    lesgeolesgeo
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    Yeah. I’ll chip in with my 55 years or so.

    This is unarguably the worst I’ve ever experienced but feel that, although the players may not be as bad as in the re-election years – the management strategists have been total donkey poo.
    A certain well-known Scunny travel agent was streets ahead of Neil in terms of: knowledge, footballing brain, best use of inadequate resources, man-management, tactics, psychology and learning from mistakes.
    He also signed some terrific players on a budget which was probably smaller in real terms than the the one in place this season.

    Incidentally, how is it that Paul Hurst was able to get so very much out of the Shrewsbury trio and yet Neil so very little? – It is an important question.

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    #217379
    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Because he lacked experience les, we all applauded the appointment of Neil, local lad, former player etc etc but in hindsight, which we all know is a wonderful thing, he was simply the wrong guy for the job. Keith Hill has a stack of knowledge backed up by over 700 games under his belt as manager, the contrast couldn’t be more stark but he will need time and a few new faces in January to sort this lot out, plus some luck along the way.

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    #217384
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    As well as luck he’ll need:-
    Removal of the transfer embargo by having the EFL loan paid off.
    A transfer budget to bring in at least 2 or 3 better quality players.
    Has he been promised these things?
    If so, will the promises be honoured?

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    #217385
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    In Peter Swanns last Humberside interview he did say we were still under our budget which means we can recruit. Not sure if we are allowed to pay a fee for though.

    Also stated if it takes the loan to be be repaid next year then it will be !!

    Until, either it does or does not happen we will have to wait.

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    #217388
    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    Quick shuftie at free agents:

    Lee Camp, Kieran Westwood, Ben Alnwick.

    Jason Shackell, David Wheater.

    Jimmy Ryan, Joe Ledley.

    Calvin Andrew, Chris O’Grady, Ishmael Miller.

    Plenty of experience there. Depends whether they’d do it for pocket money!

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    cassidystashcassidystash
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    Aren’t some of those past retirement age? Never mind pocket money – a few bob to top up their pension should be enough.

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    If they aren’t playing they won’t be anywhere near fit so couldn’t come and slot straight into the squad.

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    Transfer budget means more debt Cass, something I am quite happy with but plenty aren’t.

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    If more debt equals league survival I don’t think many would argue against it would they? (Well maybe a couple)

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    Since Swann took the helm have seen the fans being insulted, castigated, and blamed for the plight the club finds itself in. It’s been a masterclass on how to alienate the owner from the club supporters.

    If Swann actually starts to deliver on his promises of ground redevelopment. then backs Keith Hill in the transfer market, releases a timeline of when the ground and facilities will be returned back into SUFC ownership, and leads by example by actually attending the home matches, we might actually see the club regain many of it’s missing supporters.

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    It’s OK supporters staying away and it is your decision, but if you stay away and come on here boasting about not coming and the club folded just remember you helped with the demise, I agree with the reasons like the chairman over the last 3 years and the dire football and negative tactics but if the club folded and the club restarted we would be playing Brigg and Barton OB or no club at all and then the owner could recoup his money on development of other projects.

    You are pointing the finger in the wrong direction. Plenty of clubs are higher up the leagues with smaller gates than ours, how are Accrington or Burton doing well in League One?

    Fundamentally, the club is not entitled to our money. It does not have a right to receive our £20 every fortnight. It needs to earn that right, whether it’s through good football, a good atmosphere or by creating a proper club environment where people feel like they’re actually part of the club.

    You can’t blame people who aren’t prepared to keep handing over their money at this stage.

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