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  • #217428
    alcazaralcazar
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    Since Swann took the helm have seen the fans being insulted, castigated, and blamed for the plight the club finds itself in. It’s been a masterclass on how to alienate the owner from the club supporters.

    If Swann actually starts to deliver on his promises of ground redevelopment. then backs Keith Hill in the transfer market, releases a timeline of when the ground and facilities will be returned back into SUFC ownership, and leads by example by actually attending the home matches, we might actually see the club regain many of it’s missing supporters.

    Hasn’t he just missed his latest deadline? Didn’t he say work was starting by the end of October? Or was it November? December? January 2023?

    Seriously, I read all the stuff on here about if he pays off the loan, if he gives us a timeline for giving the stadium back, if he gives us a timeline for stadium development… and I wince.
    Have we learned nothing?
    Believe NOT ONE THING WILL HAPPEN, until you see it with your own eyes.

    Some of us need to listen to the old Who classic, “Wont get fooled again”.

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    #217433
    SODIronSODIron
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    Alcazar – totally agree. I have always adopt the following philosophy; when words and actions are in conflict go with the actions as these are likely the persons true intent.

    I see regular word salads being given out by Swann, but I see no actions to back it up. Swann is drinking in the last chance saloon. If he doesn’t follow through on his words, he will forever be remembered as the Chairman who never followed through on his promises, drove a large core of the supporters away, and ruined the club!

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    #217444
    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    The way the crowds are going Swanny might have to look at charging children, like the majority of other clubs,in the short term it would upset the likes of Alcy but in the long term it would bring in much needed revenue.

    #217446
    premierironpremier iron
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    He’s already ruined the club

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    #217454
    alcazaralcazar
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    I see regular word salads being given out by Swann, but I see no actions to back it up. Swann is drinking in the last chance saloon. If he doesn’t follow through on his words, he will forever be remembered as the Chairman who never followed through on his promises, drove a large core of the supporters away, and ruined the club!

    And will that bother him?
    If he makes a few more £millions selling the land?
    And walks away?

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    #217457
    SODIronSODIron
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    @Alcazar – yep, right now he is in a strong financial position. His company (Coolsilk) owns the land, and SUFC are tenants of Coolsilk. Should the worst happen, Swann could just walk away with the land, and would likely make a very tidy profit developing on the land.

    I guess it all depends on what sort of legacy he wants to leave behind. Whilst the above seems a real possibility, you have to remember that Swann does have a bit of an ego. Being remembered as the person who single handedly destroyed Scunthorpe United is not something he would willingly want on his CV.

    I really do believe that Swann is drinking in the last chance saloon. This is his last opportunity to get it right. I feel that if he sorts out the EFL loan situation, backs KH in the transfer window, starts on the ground development, and produces a realistic timetable for the transfer of the football ground and surrounding ground back into SUFC ownership, he will start the healing process with the fans, and they will return. The issue is however, he doesn’t have a great track record delivering on any promises to date. Fans will NEED to see ACTION and NOT WORDS.

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    #217459
    IronaweIronawe
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    Swann panicked when people started taking action (gategate) – he then issued weasly words – said the right things to Irontrust and some other group members who took it all in good faith (because that always works with Swann). The threat of further protest dissipated and Swann has played most people. As one of the members said – actions are what he should be judged on. He’s been inactive on these promises for a good while now

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    #217460
    emmjayPeter Promise
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    Does anyone know if the Iron Trust are still encouraged by Swann`s recent behaviour?

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    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    Thought the Iron Trust was just a foodbank supplier and charity donator,do they get involved with the club?.

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    alcazaralcazar
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    #217480
    cliffbyrnesrightpegCliff Byrne’s Right Peg
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    Just back from the meeting with season ticket holders. ( much preferred having 30 in a room as opposed to 150)

    Put to him the question about the missing 1,000, which was the main theme of the evening; can’t say I’m overly enthused about the efforts going on behind the scenes to entice fans back. Seems to be solely reliant on Hill turning the form around.

    Definitely still believe Swann doesn’t understand the resentment built towards him and where it’s come from. Until he, and his staff, accept the reasons behind this and try to address it, we are going to struggle to average above 3,000.

    There was the odd useful insight, but like most others, it’s actions rather words which are going to sway my opinion from now on.

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    #217494
    ironlion82ironlion82
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    Went to the Meeting and Swann totally focused on getting the missing 1000 back.
    I m also not impressed with what’s going on to attract people back who they are convinced don’t come mainly from Covid related reasons.
    Seem to pinning a lot of hope on this survey but when asked how many had replied no one seemed certain ! Then 400 mentioned but survey still open.
    When suggestions put forward to attract new fans there always seemed a reason why they could nt do it. It might have been an idea if one of the Team with Mr Swann had taken notes of suggestions put to them !
    Not doing this gives the impression not really interested in what was said to them! Mind you the Meeting was half over before the other 3 were introduced and that was only after someone asked who they were !
    They did not seem to grasp or want to that there are a lot of other factors besides Covid that have lost the 1000 fans.
    Hill turning this lot into a Football Team seems to be their plan
    The Meeting was told by Mr Swann that something is happening at Board Level in the next couple of weeks.

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    ironfromafarironfromafar
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    Went to the Meeting and Swann totally focused on getting the missing 1000 back.
    I m also not impressed with what’s going on to attract people back who they are convinced don’t come mainly from Covid related reasons.
    Seem to pinning a lot of hope on this survey but when asked how many had replied no one seemed certain ! Then 400 mentioned but survey still open.
    When suggestions put forward to attract new fans there always seemed a reason why they could nt do it. It might have been an idea if one of the Team with Mr Swann had taken notes of suggestions put to them !
    Not doing this gives the impression not really interested in what was said to them! Mind you the Meeting was half over before the other 3 were introduced and that was only after someone asked who they were !
    They did not seem to grasp or want to that there are a lot of other factors besides Covid that have lost the 1000 fans.
    Hill turning this lot into a Football Team seems to be their plan
    The Meeting was told by Mr Swann that something is happening at Board Level in the next couple of weeks.

    The selling of shares perhaps ????

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    #217499
    ironfromafarironfromafar
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    The thought that COVID is the main cause re stay away fans is at best an excuse or a cop out not wanting to recognize the real reason which is no buggar likes to go watch their team loose week in week out whilst loosing with out a fight and effort.

    I am not based in the UK so cannot comment on the Covid situation there but now i very much doubt more than a hand full are staying away due to it .. i may be wrong.

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    #217501
    lesgeolesgeo
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    You are not wrong.
    There is so much space and anybody wanting to keep their distance from others can easily do so.

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    #217502
    cliffbyrnesrightpegCliff Byrne’s Right Peg
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    The CEO explained that half of those who completed the survey stated COVID was the main reason they won’t return. That’s still only around 200 people. Another 1,000 are still missing.

    I took from the suggestion of another board member that it could possibly some
    Form of fan representation.

    #217503
    PaulSanfran49
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    The is only one person responsible for the demise in the gates – Mr Peter Swann.

    It isn’t going to move by much until HE owns the reasons why and the ego will not allow it.

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    #217506
    cassidystashcassidystash
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    When suggestions put forward to attract new fans there always seemed a reason why they could nt do it. It might have been an idea if one of the Team with Mr Swann had taken notes of suggestions put to them !
    Not doing this gives the impression not really interested in what was said to them!

    Well observed and, I suspect, entirely true.

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    #217507
    FerriteFerrite
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    They did not seem to grasp or want to that there are a lot of other factors besides Covid that have lost the 1000 fans.

    Are gates down at every other League Two club post-Covid? I’m pretty sure we would have seen long think pieces in the papers if they were. So if it’s just us, why would Covid be the reason?

    What is this famous survey? The one only sent to season ticket holders? Why on earth would you not seek to get a wider range of views? It seems baffling.

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    #217511
    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Ferrite I am not currently a season ticket holder and have not been since the first lockdown but I received a survey via email, not sure how the distribution of them has worked but in my case I deffo got one, returned it filled in and I did not blame covid for low attendances, I do attend home league games still by getting my ticket from the club pre matchday. I did not attend the cup game last Saturday and I never will attend Papa John’s games as I believe the competition is entire baloney with B teams involved. Will deffo be there against Salford to see if Hill really is the Messiah, or just a very naughty boy like the last bloke.

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    #217534
    cokeovenkidcokeovenkid
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    Over the last 4 weeks I have sandwiched watching 2 games with 37,000 crowds and a trip to see Gerry Cinammon at a packed Sheffield arena. Give me something with a little pride and passion, something worth watching and I will return Peter.

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    #217548
    FerriteFerrite
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    Fair enough Ironawe, having not received one and seen some other comments on here, I thought they had only been sent to season ticket holders, thanks for putting me right.

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    IronaweIronawe
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    Aren’t the season ticket holders counted in the attendance irrespective of their attendance? If so it seems strange that they are part of the missing 1,000 and so COVID being cited as the reason (a very convenient truth for Swann) seems a bit wide of the mark.

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