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  • #217887
    Samways1samways1
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    I liked the interview from the manager but wish Mike White had asked him about his subs.

    Millen on in midfield ahead of Beestin & Pugh was baffling.

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    #217889
    bartonscorpionbartonscorpion
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    It was good to see the better movement and passing, and for the first hour we played some good football. I thought that Hackney was possibly our MOM, but the team appeared to run out of steam during the last 20 mins, and Salford spent far too much time in the Scunthorpe third of the pitch.

    I would love to see young Wilson on the bench, and brought on for this latter 20 mins when others are flagging, how Jarvis failed to score when the ball came back off the inside of the post God knows. This manager has started to put his stamp on things, it is a pity Swann left it so long with Cox in charge, and it appears that a lot of the players are very unfit, so when Cox kept saying they trained well during the week, what was he looking at?

    It wasn’t a bad game watched on i-follower, and it might just tempt me back into attending shortly, it was certainly a lot better than usual, and if Keith can get some leg work into some of them, who knows!!!

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    #217891
    ironfromafarironfromafar
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    Much improved performance .. my fence sitting prediction came in .. 1-1 looked like a fair result and not a bad start for Hills first L2 fixture , even Kenyon whom i have been very critical of did ok , for a change lots of positive performances Watson again , Hackney and Omalley.

    Looked to be acres of space out wide on the wings .. at some point i would like to see Thompson at LB Omally left wing Wilson right wing .. just how that can be done re the current personal remains to be seen .. nice to have a manager with experience and talks pre n post match very well unlike the total waffling twaddle Cox used to come out with .

    As previously said .. its tight in the bottom area 5 points bottom to lower mid table , sadly Mansfield seem to have hit some good form at the wrong time.

    Lets hope this new positive energy can be turned into points.

    Up the Iron

    #217892
    WonderGoalsWonderGoals
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    Hill is what we should have had months before if Swann pulled the trigger when he should have. I mentioned about Hill commenting about the last match about players not being fit.

    I said few days back that we looked laboured around 35 minute mark against donny with the team pressing.

    The same happened today after 60 minute mark…

    Serious question here.

    What the feck were Cox and Lillis doing during training sessions ?

    I find it absolutely disgusting Hill is going to have to wait a while for this team to get up to the fitness levels required.

    Absolute disgrace, we’ve played all these games and still not fit !

    Really like Hill. The difference between a proper manager and Cox is astounding. Already spotted the piss takers and shirkers it seems and looks to have marked Beestin’s card.

    I found it weird how Cox wouldn’t play him and now Hill hasn’t bothered so far.

    Has Beestin become too comfortable and had started to extract the urine ?

    It would appear that way. Hill won’t take any crap and if I was Beestin, I’d pull his finger out quick sharp.

    How refreshing it is to actually have a commanding manager who 100% knows what he’s doing and who’s 100% dialed in.

    A lot of hard work to do and the strikers bar Scrimshaw who’s hardworking but limited and Loft who has a lot of improvement still in him, we have Perry who’s definitely got something, Hackney has turned up, Kenyon looked different to those first games I saw him in and also got something in O’Malley and Rowe. Manny was also superb.

    Watson we have an able GK so there is something there.

    The depth is what worries me. 2 fit CB’S and Jarvis as the back up forward…jesus god above.

    Jarvis looks like he needs a full minute to decide what to do and score. Never seen anything like it.

    I’d honestly rather go down the Cameron Wilson/Harry Jessop route. I’ve seen enough of Jarvis now and he isn’t and will never be good enough.

    I wonder as well If Hallam is one of those Hill mentioned about being injured all week and then declaring themselves fit on the friday ?

    Anyway all in all, really pleased with Hill and can see improvement already.

    Right man for the job 100% without a shadow of a doubt.

    Shame he wasn’t here earlier but least he’s here now. If we can stay in touch, off load the bluffers/shirkers/sicknotes and get 3 or 4 in.. I think we’ll be ok.

    I like Hill, upfront and no bullshit. I couldn’t have asked for any more.

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    ironfromafarironfromafar
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    spot on post WG .. something has changed .. hindsight is a wonderful thing what if Swan had ditched Cox / Lillis n got Hill in a month sooner??
    Im guessing more will come out in the future as to just how piss poor Cox actions and management style were.

    Up the Iron

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    #217896
    lesgeolesgeo
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    Some real sense being talked on here.
    We all suspected the ‘fatigue’ that Hill spoke of – and it is shameful that the previous management team let this happen.
    If us stoopid supporters could see it …

    Beestin has rarely impressed me this season. As for Pugh, Hill will have judged him just on what he has seen. (Remember Cox held him back over training deficiencies.)

    Here we go again. This time it’s Jarvis. Another young striker to be pilloried for not being the finished article after a handful of league games!

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    #217897
    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Agree les good post, as for Jarvis he clearly needs more time and I believe under Hill he can improve a hell of a lot, unlike WG I won’t write the lad off but it’s all about opinions of course. Give the lad a fair crack under the new managers direction and let’s see how Jarvis and a few others for that matter, respond.

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    I liked the interview from the manager but wish Mike White had asked him about his subs.
    Millen on in midfield ahead of Beestin & Pugh was baffling.

    An incredible Cox-like substitution, baffling indeed.

    as for Jarvis he clearly needs more time

    He certainly needs plenty of time to score a goal, refuses to be rushed. Why didn’t he just HEAD IT!!!!!!!! He’s missed 3 from inside the 6 yard box in 2 games that have cost us valuable points. IF there’s improvement in him he needs to find it quickly.

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    An incredible Cox-like substitution, baffling indeed.

    Millen isn’t great at defending, but he can cross a ball. Maybe that’s what he was thinking.

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    WonderGoalsWonderGoals
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    He certainly needs plenty of time to score a goal, refuses to be rushed. Why didn’t he just HEAD IT!!!!!!!! He’s missed 3 from inside the 6 yard box in 2 games that have cost us valuable points. IF there’s improvement in him he needs to find it quickly.

    My thoughts entirely. That’s what I was getting at. The instinct a striker should have he just hasn’t got.

    That in my opinion isn’t so much a lack of game time, that’s just simply not being a good enough. A striker should not need a run of games to have the instinct to stick a ball away which is right there to be hit.

    Hill was asked this post match that if he thought he took far too long to want to hit the ball and he agreed.

    I’m not writing him completely off but that’s a worrying thing for a striker. Millen was quite an odd one but thought he looked better there than RB because he can’t really defend and to be fair to him he’s got really good delivery though and clipped a great cross in.

    Regarding Jarvis I just think if the natural instinct to score goals isn’t there for a striker and you keep playing him then you’re asking for trouble.

    I’d personally give Wilson a go, he’s able to score with both feet and has a bit of composure about him. No doubt in my mind that Jarvis has cost us points these last few matches and they weren’t exactly hard chances either.

    We’ll have to wait and see.

    In regards to the players current fitness levels this far into the season. I’d love for it to come out what Cox and Lillis actually had the players doing.

    Quarter of the season gone and they’re cream crackered after 60 mins. When he first came in they only lasted 30+ before tiring.

    No wonder we looked so bad and kept dropping deep. They would have all been knackered as they didn’t even have a base level of fitness.

    Utter piss take.

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    #217919
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    Reading into Cox post match interviews I think the tail was wagging the dog, hence all the excuses for the sick lame and lazy.

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    Whatever he was doing it wasn’t up to scratch. I thought it was a bit odd against Donny that we started really well and pressed then around 30 mins we looked laboured.

    Managed 60 mins last match…with any look in a few matches time + hard training we might even be able to last the full 90.

    How the hell do you get all this games into the season and have a squad that haven’t even got the base level of fitness to be able to compete 90 mins ?

    It really is unbelievable when you think about it.

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    Yet they were reported as “having trained well” every week!! Does that mean they turned up on time, ate all their dinner, washed their kit and ended the session with the same number of balls they started with?

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    It is obvious as someone said today training under Cox was like being at a holiday camp.Lack of fitness is unforgiveable

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    WonderGoalsWonderGoals
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    Probably was like a holiday camp because they certainly weren’t running. We all thought Cox was out of his depth tactically but it was way worse than we ever imagined.

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    bartonscorpionbartonscorpion
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    Cox should have been sacked last November, after the disasterous start to the season when he took charge, his first three months in charge read L D D W L L L L L L L L including being knocked out of the FA Cup at home to Solihull Moors. And he was even retained for this season were his record is not a lot better. A few of us kept harping on about this Cox guy, whilst many others came back with “he is a nice man and local” or that he has been left with these poor players, well he didn’t bring in any world beaters did he.

    But now we have a mqanager in charge who I feel will sort things out rather than hide behind problems, all the above was so obvouse, but why did Swann let it happen?????

    So give Keith a few weeks to knock this lot into shape, and I hope we will look back in anger of what has happened to our club.

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    If anyone will sort them it will be Hill. You can already see he’s put a bit in place already. At least against Salford we actually had some structure to the way we played.

    In a space of a week we’ve gone from being knackered after 30 minutes to knackered after 60 and that to me is big progress in a week.

    Throw into the mix he’s already ring marked the players who need to be fitter and the pillock/pillocks who spend all week in the physio room to then magically become fit on the day before the game.

    No doubt he’s also spotted the wide options are shite..hence why he’s playing with 4 central midfielders. Glad he’s also playing Rowe at RB due to Millen not being able to defend.

    I think Perry playing further forward as a more attacking midfielder to link play is a good move as well. Got that bit of craft and passing ability with less defensive responsibility which is one part of his game which is lacking.

    All in all, good progress.

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