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  • #218321
    cliffbyrnesrightpegCliff Byrne’s Right Peg
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    After the shambles at Mansfield, hopefully it’s a similar performance for the first 60mins vs Salford.

    Kenyon can go back to the bench for me and be replaced by Pugh. Beestin also has to be involved one way or the other to give us something of an attacking threat.

    With no wingers to choose from I’d even roll the dice with a 4-3-3 and see how Loft/Scrimshaw play off Jarvis. For all his faults he can at least hold a ball up and bring others into play.

    O’Hara

    Millen
    Onarisie
    Taft
    O’ Malley

    Pugh
    Perry/Hackney
    Beestin

    Scrimshaw
    Jarvis
    Loft

    #218326
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    Can’t disagree with any of that, assuming there’s no alternative for the right back position?

    #218327
    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Are we twenty minutes fitter then the Salford game?, would like to think we aren’t too far away. It would be nice to compete for 80 minutes plus tonight before we start running out of steam, Orient aren’t sixth for nothing, this game will be a real challenge for team and new manager.

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    mkironMK Iron
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    What no place for our goalscorer from Saturday and for me Rowe for all his inexperience is a safer bet than Millen.

    Particularly in a game where we might have to defend for periods.

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    #218333
    cliffbyrnesrightpegCliff Byrne’s Right Peg
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    Don’t know how Millen slipped in there.
    Of course Rowe right back.

    Not a fan of Hippolyte at all Mk. Granted he’s improved during the last 5/6 game, but I’d much prefer to see Beestin in.

    #218339
    mkironMK Iron
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    Agree Beeston is a better footballer and more likely to score without the aid of penalties.

    He works hard but does tire in games so I suspect he is one of the ones needing to improve his stamina before he starts regularly under Hill.

    Also want to see him as a 10 rather than as a holding player. That job is for Pugh or Kenyon.

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    #218340
    bartonscorpionbartonscorpion
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    I cannot see why no one has included young Wilson in their suggested teams, and it looks really a waste of time having three centre forwards because they are all rubbish.

    Mansfield outplayed our lot on Saturday, but I am affraid Leyton are a far better team than Mansfield. If we lose again tonight it is about curtains, because a gap has opened up above the three bottom teams, and if it gets much more that five points, we have no chance of catching any of them, just look at how many games it has taken Scunny to score six points!!!

    #218341
    Ironmatt84Matty
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    I shall be there again, not expecting much tbh!

    #218350
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    Can’t believe he’s dropped hippo and hackney, along with manny they were the only ones who turned up at Mansfield.

    #218356
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    Shuffled the team again.
    Different setup again.

    But same old same old.
    Now two draws and three defeats.
    Maybe this guy ain’t the answer some on here thought he was?

    Our present form, if it continues, will see us finish with 33 points.
    Do teams stay up with that number?
    Dho STILL thinks we can escape?
    Because I don’t

    I might break my promise in May to go and watch our last ever league game.

    #218359
    IronaweIronawe
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    This isn’t on hill. These players are gash. Taft was the worse display by a CB i’ve seen in years. Even Onaraise had a shocker, Loft & Jarvis shite, Pugh lightweight, you just cannot do much with these players – Will Swann getting duped by agents with shit players – who’d have thought a 21 yr old with f all knowledge getting duped!

    We should’ve lost that 5 or 6 to 1. Orient will be gutted with their finishing – not 50/50 but gilt edged chances.
    We need a new front line, 2 new CB’s and 2-3 midfielders.

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    #218360
    DarrynStampGoalMachineDarrynStampGoalMachine
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    Shit. Again.

    And points aren’t enough but it was a point from behind which have been very hard to come by.

    Sign of a bit of toughening up? Maybe?

    But if we’d lost that by 5 it wouldn’t have been an unfair result.

    Far to much dead wood.

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    #218361
    lesgeolesgeo
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    Well. Keith has now seen almost all of his squad. (Is Wilson part of it?)
    The fact that too many are much of a muchness will be his principal concern.

    Perry looked a different player to the one dropped after Mansfield. Beestin was showing improvement too.

    An ancient problem reared its ugly head, however. The defence played well enough, I suppose, but look at all the pressure it had to face with the failings of the midfield in front of it. Hole after hole opened up and we could easily have lost by half a dozen.

    The lads grafted well but, once again, intelligence was so often found to be lacking.

    #218362
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    1 point. About 2 more than we deserved. At least we’re seeing some effort.

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    #218363
    open hearth ironopen hearth iron
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    I will buy the ticket if you also go if it’s not our last league game

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    #218364
    IronaweIronawe
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    Les you might want to look at our defence for Orient’s goal – and for most of the one on one’s
    look at the positioning of the CB’s – it doesn’t make for good viewing. Taft literally had no clue what he was supposed to be doing

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    #218365
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    Alkazar, you ask if Hill is the answer, there is no manager on earth that can do anything with this verypoor squad, they are non-league standard, and I do not rate them as National League, they would be relegated even in that league.
    It should and could have been 1-6, 1-7, 1-8 tonight, so hold back on your opinion of Hill, whoever contributed to forming this squad, be it Cox, Swann jun or Acunny Bunny, they should stay away from football management.

    O’HARA—8—Played very well an will probably never have so much to do again.
    MILLEN—7–Thought he did very well tonight.
    TAFT—5—Centre of defence was wide open.
    ONARIASE–6 -Same comment as Taft, but one mark better.
    O’MALLEY—5—Probably should have stayed on and Thompson subbed.
    BEESTIN—7—Worked very hard tonight, should start games as said before.
    KENYON—5—Did not see a lot from him in a poor midfield.
    PUGH—5—Gives too many fouls away in attacking positions, not very good.
    THOMPSON–4—Unimpreddef by him, beaten too easily, and poor passer.
    JARVIS–4–Had a good first 15 mins, then nothing, very poor up front.
    LOFT–3–He gets worse, cannot pass, no ball control and cannot shoot, rubbish!!

    SUBS—7–Livened the team up a bit, and Scrimshaw must be selected instead of Loft, and Thompson is not good, but where is young Wilson, he is not even on the bench, he should be brought on for the last 20 mins at the least.

    REF—8 Very good ref and linesmen.

    MANAGER—7—What the hell can anyone do with this lot, we should have been slaughtered tonight, but stole a point when the other two teams Carlisle and Oldham both lost, but Saturday against Bradford is going to be just as difficult, and Levi Sutton scored again tonight.

    SUPPORTERS–8—They really are hardened fans. or possibly head cases right now for still being sat as the final whistle went.

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    #218366
    cliffbyrnesrightpegCliff Byrne’s Right Peg
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    More than happy to take a point from that. How the hell Orient didn’t bag 4/5 I’ll never know.

    Taft and Onarisie were dog mess tonight. Why do players like Taft regress so much whilst at the club?

    The midfield diamond seemed too congested and no-one really knew how to play their position. No centre mids we’re covering the wide areas and left Thompson/Millen exposed all game.

    The only real positive I can take from tonight was Scrimshaw’s Performance when he came on.

    Alcazar- show me one post where anyone thought this would be a miraculous turnaround? Hill’s got some job on his hands and it’s damage limitation till January. Stop pinning this on the manager when he’s had 3 league games ffs.

    #218368
    bartonscorpionbartonscorpion
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    Cliff, I thought that O’Hara was our man of the match, he dealt well with all those crosses and a couple of one on one’s, I wouldn’t think that Watson will be too eiger to declare himself fit for Saturdays game!!, whilst on about Goal Keepers is was great to see that fellow relegation tean Carlisle signed Howard on about seven games ago, six have been defeats.

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    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    We got out of jail tonight alright but there was the odd glimpse of hope here and there, just an odd one or two. Orient for me the best league side so far at GP this season, quicker, stronger, good passing, great defending but finishing very poor thank goodness. If they find a decent goalscorer in January they could well finish as champions playing that kind of football. Shame O’Malley is injured again, doesn’t get much luck that lad. Having said all that we are a point nearer both Carlisle and Oldham after tonight so let’s be grateful for that.

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    #218370
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    I agree with Cliff on this one, it was a point gained against a team that missed some sitters yet our keeper though he played well and was commanding in the air never had a serious shot to save, the chance that hit the post was comedy between our defenders losing the ball after getting each others way, Scrimshaw made a big difference but their players looked stronger than ours and agree with Hill about fitness but our defence gave me the jitters today and I can’t believe we got a draw after being overrun second half.

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    #218371
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    Hold the front page. The Iron don’t have a team full of good players.

    Seems to be a bit of a surprise to some posters on here. Where have you been the last three and a half seasons?

    Keith Hill has had 17 days and 3 whole league games and we still concede chances to top 6 teams. What has the man been doing with his time.

    What I saw tonight was a team with very little in the way of quality stand up and be counted against a very decent League 2 team and gain a point. Yes they rode their luck and better teams would have punished them. The good news is there are only 4 or 5 better teams in this League. Workrate and energy is all you have got to work with against better quality teams. Show those things against lesser teams and (some) results will come.

    By all means criticise the events and people that got us in this mess but berating £500 quid a week footballers for their lack of quality is ridiculous. Especially from people that can’t be arsed to go and watch them.

    Well done tonight lads for the shift you put in.

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    #218373
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    One of the things that amazed me, their guy stays tight to the touch line, Thompson stands 20 yards infield of him. Their keeper was actually kicking the ball at Thompson to let their wide man have the run on Thompson and beat I’m in the air every time. After 90 minutes Thompson still hadn’t worked it out. If you keep doing what you’re doing, you keep getting what you’ve getting. As an old Geordie friend used to say, his brains are brand new man

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    Carlisle signed Howard on about seven games ago, six have been defeats.

    Four out of their last seven have been clean sheets and Howard played in all of them.

    So not as bad as you’d have us believe!

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    #218378
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    First time I’ve been this season, and I have to say it was not as bad as I expected and I came away looking forward to going again.
    The team but an effort in, and there were positive signs. However, our centre was soft and we were caught out once or twice, but our keeper was not worked hard.
    We need to get the ball down and play more, we had some nice glimpses of this and we looked better when doing it. I thought they were a big physical team, but were poor and were not really looking to play but more lump it and use their height advantage. Their chances were more from our mistakes(except the goal)

    Beestin poor first half, better when deeper, Kenyon miles off fitness wise, some good performances and some positive sign

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    Your points about the defence are certainly valid, IA, but I feel that this kind of situation occurs when CM and defenders are not even vaguely in synch.
    Defenders are trying to cover too many options and it easily turns into a ragged, disjointed mess.
    That’s when the holes appear.

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    every time Orient broke forward in the second half they looked like scoring, especially after they brought Smyth on, luckily enough they didn’t have their shooting boots on, our defence were all over the place.
    I don’t think any of our players apart from the keeper would get into the Orient team and basically we have a squad of bench warmers or reserves, couldn’t fault the effort but we are lightweight all over the pitch.

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    Funniest thing was Kenyon having a go at their number 9, talk about the little and large show he must have been 6ft 7″ . 😂

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    An ancient problem reared its ugly head, however. The defence played well enough, I suppose, but look at all the pressure it had to face with the failings of the midfield in front of it. Hole after hole opened up and we could easily have lost by half a dozen.

    I can’t agree about this, Taft looked half asleep all game, Onarise is painfully slow on the turn and he can’t pass the ball at all, Thompson & Millen were lucky not to get sent off for persistent fouling.

    The midfield was a non-entity too but that back 4 has not got a lot to recommend it.

    The team definitely showed some gumption second half, especially after Scrimshaw replaced the anonymous Loft, but we don’t seem to have the ability to actually build an attack. Any chances we have seem to almost happen by accident rather than design.

    No width last night and no one who could run in behind the opposition defence (which didn’t look that good on the few occasions it was actually tested).

    Hill’s got plenty to do, with 18/46 games played I’m not sure there’s enough time left to do it.

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    Shocking display IMO, biggest robbery since Brinksmat! Massive hole between the 2 CBs all game, Taft, Thompson, Kenyon, Pugh, Loft & Jarvis terrible, the rest slightly better except the ‘keeper who was excellent (bizarrely he could have been MOM in a team that lost 6-1!!) Loft & Jarvis were so bad that O’Neil & KDT could start on Saturday and couldn’t be worse (could they?) There were a few bright spots when we actually passed the ball accurately and looked like a football TEAM but there needs to be much more of that if we’re to survive.

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