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We must be living in dreamland, given what was said by someone about how anyone thinking we’d be higher than midtable must be residing there.

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I bet there are a few sore heads in Scunthorpe today.

Congratulations on promotion, no more than you guys deserve after what you were put through.

Enjoy the celebrations and good luck next season.

Thanks. And well done to your team for staying up this season.

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The most nerve-racking game. It would have been great to be there in person, but I am too far away, and that beer at the bar at least helped somewhat with the tension.

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During the off season boredom I have an idea for threads in the vein of this one if it cures the nostalgia and people are interested.

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Teacher has had some positives about Andy’s progress this year, but he has been set extra homework to make sure he’s ready for the next grade.

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Had to go back to 2015/16 for the previous biggie we won, last home game of the season against Port vale keeping us in the hunt for automatic promotion.

I am being pedantic, but that was to keep us in the hunt for the playoffs. Also, I would argue that the 2-0 win at home to Plymouth in 2017/18 which virtually assured us of a playoff spot, while Plymouth winning would give them an upper hand, would class as a more recent big game win at home.

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People will still park along Gunness straight for a game like this, I imagine. People often park in the Berkeley area (Stanley Rd, Lister Rd etc), but I suspect that will be packed.

I remember when we played Grimsby in the cup over a decade ago and many abandoned their cars on the M181 because traffic jams were risking them missing kick off. I don’t recommend that now.

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The Pope is ‘woke’ apparently.

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I guess this shows the age of most forum users. The nostalgia for youth and players of that time. Choices are fair, but I suspect those in their 30s would go for Cliffy Byrne, Hayes, Hooper, Sharp, Keogh, Joe Murphy or Grant McCann.

God knows who the youth of today would pick. We have been bereft in recent years. Though, get promoted this year and Cal Roberts, Whitehall and Fitzsimmons could etch their names onto the memories of today’s teens and 20 year olds.

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I have been to more than 5 home games this year, but there is no way I can make this one. TV it is. I hope we do sell out.

Good to see Awaywego making a generous offer to those who might make it, but might not fit the criteria.

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News reports from last month do say he had asked to leave to explore interest at a higher level, he did initially leave despite claims he was fully committed. I doubt his sudden departure a matter of a day or two after the vote was unexpected. You were right in that he wasn’t committed to the club in your talk of how he did leave afterwards, which is not an if.

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If some new info comes to light, I will change my mind. My supposition that Dave could start blaming Montel was wrong given recent updates, but nothing has been brought forward changes my mind that Matlock urging fans to vote yes for Dave to keep Montel because he was committed, when that seemingly wasn’t the case at the time, was a bit loose with the truth. You yourself have admitted he wasn’t committed at the time, so this was still a fib.

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The club should and probably would have known that when they claimed he was committed. Rights or wrongs of Montel initially wanting pastures new, saying he had committed when he hadn’t, at the time, to convince people to vote for Dave was guilt tripping and doesn’t seem to have been the case as of the vote. Montel ‘betraying the club’ by wanting out of a contract doesn’t force them to fib.

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The club saying Montel had committed at the time doesn’t mean he actually had done. We don’t know who was fibbing, but one connected had a history. Given him returning doesn’t change that something was not wholly truthful, nothing has really been proven or disproven.

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That was based on information that we had at the time and some suppositions* based on his own history with claiming he’d been hard done by because of meanies like Taft, Bru, Matt Slater and every Tom, Dick and Harry who has it in for poor Dave. With new information things change, obviously. Though, given none of what has been said has refuted that he did leave, I don’t think it really makes interpretations at the time (with less information) any more unfair. Hilton’s history is bound to create cynicism.

*I mean this is no different to your own suppositions that Montel had betrayed poor Dave, as well as the 250k bad debt being for the stadium, there are no boardroom rifts because they held hands etc, lol

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It’s hardly a straw to clutch when Matlock have stated he has returned, meaning he had left, when before it wasn’t stated that there was any need for this and that he had committed. It may be that he had an informal agreement that he was coming back afterwards, but given he did leave for a bit and there was no way of anyone (like MTFC fan) knowing, it’s hardly nonsense to have previously interpreted him going as not fulfilling what was stated.

Mtfcfan stated that the club claimed Montel had committed, he left, no-one knew about the outcome of any new negotiations until more recently.

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Still doesn’t change the issue that the club said he committed to staying when he hadn’t given that it said it was a ‘return’ after negotiating.

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Well, Butler has had us go further in the playoffs than Jimmy and with a weaker squad.

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I suspect not. Responsibility is for others.

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How long before the interview gets pulled from the site?

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TW likes his watery lagers.

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Montel may not have said that he was committed to staying. That was a claim put forward by others. It’s funny how these shenanigans always follow Dave and it’s always others being duplicitous.

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The table is a liar until the last game. I remember a decade ago when Portsmouth won League Two and hadn’t ever touched top spot, even for results as they stand during games, until the last 15 minutes of the final game.

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It’s this kind of guilt tripping and lies that already scream red flag and why I worry for Matlock.

No doubt it will be because Gibson is a rotter out to get Dave, like it was for Bru, Bury AFC, Matt Slater, George Taft, the FA, every business that filed a CCJ and every Tom, Dick and Harry.

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It’s never good to blow one’s own trumpet. It makes you appear like you’re trying to convince yourself and doesn’t really convince others.

Come on pot and kettlle

This might mean something if I thought I was some great shakes and not a flawed person like everyone else on this forum.

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Sod’s law we get Buxton in the semis.

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Harrier_Nick wrote:

I don’t think it will, mate, to be fair. I honestly don’t think your lot will recover from this. But thanks all the same.

Hard luck lad; good luck in the playoffs. Blown it.

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