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We need to showcase the game to the footballing hotbed of Qatar! It was absolutely vital that FIFA found an accommodating time period, when the temperature isn’t too high, for this important nation to host the tournament. It would have been unfathomable to look for an alternative location which is more suited and wouldn’t have as many dead migrant workers (the show is more important than their safety, they should realise that), because we would be starved of seeing football in the glamour of Doha! Oh, and FIFA wouldn’t have made as much money from bribes!

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Yawn

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I do think Gurny does come across as patronising. Some of his points are very valid, but he doesn’t seem to see the human on the other side as being of equal agency.

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Yawn.

We do face problems which may affect life, such as climate change, food shortages etc. No doubt you’ll put this down to Marxism.

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Hope you are crowing loud and clear tomorrow Ex-Officio.

A lot depends on what the announcement is of course.

Chunky chips are back on the menu. :-)

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billpuntonsghost wrote:

….think you’ll find the Biden administration is trying to fight the saving of millions of innocent babies lives ,due to the recent overturning of roe v wade.
The neo-Marxist regime will not stop there, misery and chaos will be the outcome, unfortunately.

Someone’s killing millions of babies? News to me. Oh, you mean embryos. Not the same thing.

Everyone who disagrees with you is a Marxist. Yawn.

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Aye, the dire consequences of leftist action like loss of abortion rights. :-)

If only the USA had an authoritarian Putin lover while the Ukraine invasion is happening! :-)

And what does this have to do with the dire consequences of Brexit? As usual, with the tedious ideologues, it’s all someone else’s fault.

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No. You’ve told us often enough for it to be cemented in memory. :-)

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Iron-awe wrote:

Buck’s used to accuse several posters on this forum who disagreed with his viewpoint as being ” the usual suspects “, I can announce tonight I have no intention of buying Scunthorpe United FC.

A consortium of IA, Heath, Gurny and DeereyMe. Blimey! :-O

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This is too cryptic. Who are the usual suspects? Should we be excited?

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The thing I worry about, IA, is that we have lost so much money already, so how long will we recover for any parity? Alongside this, how do we solve the heavy logistical issues (which also play to costs) from queues to red tape? This will mean those in government acknowledging they can do something about it, which may mean closer ties with the EU, but that would anger a section of the public and there would be many willing to portray this as Brexit betrayal for political purposes to the detriment of the country.

For things to get better there needs to be an honest assessment of what can be done, but so many don’t want to do that, because it would mean acknowledging Brexit isn’t sunlit uplands and critics had a point. It’s still politically lucrative for the Farages and ERG to sound off about problems being the fault of saboteurs and the EU, so they will use this over doing something for the good of the country.

And, for balance, there are many in the FBPE remain camp who have deluded themselves into thinking we can just rejoin the EU at the drop of a hat, so please don’t think I am being one sided.

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I don’t think anyone thinks that Brexit is the sole factor for our economy, but for some reason we seem to be struggling more than most, including those in the EU.

Sovereignty over trade is of course an argument, but I am struggling to see how we could have had that outside, unless we shrink away from trade with the EU and take the consequences of a more isolationist track (the CANZUK dreams are pie in the sky thinking); all trade deals involve some pooling of sovereignty to some degree. Brexiter MPs were promising us all this with no consequences and it was this which rankles. The border queues, loss of exports and GDP per capita is comparatively low for the UK with the EU. A lot of the causes for economic problems, like the pandemic, are not to do with Brexit, but for some reason we have anomalies compared to the EU nations, especially those of a similar standing from 2016.

If this was the argument Brexiters said was ok for sovereignty I would have been more fine with it. Instead, they told us these were all lies, we could have our cake and eat it and any fault is because of EU punishment. Childish, chest beating nonsense.

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While you’re at it, Renee, you could ask the milkman if he would fancy playing for Scunny. We might need him in a few years time for the level we’ll be playing at. :-)

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Also, if you point any of this out it’s because you’re doing the country down. Realising that the EU isn’t going to make allowances for non-members of their unions to have the benefits means you hate this country X-)

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Gurney does paint an overly simplistic impression of Brexiters. This explained some, but not all. I know of many who voted Brexit, but would have sympathy with knee taking. Of course there are some who fit that stereotype, but this is rather broad brush.

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Nah, the real conspiracy are researchers, and the PhD students who are paid a pittance and working in tiresome conditions, exaggerating data to get more funds from the government for more painstaking research. :-)

If only they knew that there were much simpler ways to con their way into cash. Perhaps the PR companies can give them some hints! X-)

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Tbf, Bucks admitted he was wrong. Not sure if he ever apologised. I wonder what UTI made of that mess of a performance from Swann on the podcast. :-)

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I see that arsonists have been targeting fields near London and making them dry for such kindling (it cannot be the weather escalating this). On the hottest day of the year too! The scoundrels! :-)

https://news.sky.com/story/major-incident-declared-across-london-after-huge-surge-in-fires-on-uks-hottest-ever-day-12655061

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What’s all this bollocks, from the likes of Sir Edward Leigh, that Keir Starmer disgraced himself by not being magnanimous to poor old Boris as he steps down?

When has Boris ever reciprocated? Have they forgotten that he’s not some wonderful statesmen stepping down out of good will? He had to be dragged out of the position after many scandals involving lying. He has previously directed false jibes at Starmer over Saville, and his allies expect Starmer to be kind? It’s pitiful.

The right love lecturing on how the left must be civil towards them, to understand why they arrive at their positions, and not call them nasty Tories. Fair. However, they do love hurling abuse at leftists, accusing them of being wretched, but expect civility in return. They love to shout “get over it, snowflake” when they lambast the left with bullish language, but when the left respond, they’re crying at how mean the left is.

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Those women should accept that an embryo is more of a person than they are. :-(

“In the past week, an Ohio abortion clinic received calls from two women with ectopic pregnancies — when an embryo grows outside the uterus and can’t be saved — who said their doctors wouldn’t treat them.” https://t.co/oAIxmoNm0w

— Irin Carmon (@irin) July 17, 2022

The Republicans don’t give a damn about women, and these doctors are behaving like this through grounded fear of criminal investigations.

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I expect it can be cut and paste from last year. More bluster from him about fans needing to turn up, covid making things hard, promises about us being able to compete, lowering expectations and he’s seen the lads in training and he knows they have learned the lessons from previous years, which they definitely won’t make again.

On a side note, when are we getting those chats with former players SST suggested a while back? :-)

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Not music, but I have been watching a public service announcement by awaywego. :-)

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No-one cares enough about your dislike to ‘white kinght.’ :-)

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I was speaking to some Indians last weekend about politics and Sunak came up. They were saying that his wife is known to be very corrupt in India. I know that we shouldn’t judge him on his spouse, but it does make me wonder how integral he is, especially with the underhand shenanigans of the Johnson government.

Anyway, from speaking to these Indians my thoughts on Indian politics was solidified further in its precarious and worrying state. We should be thankful that our system isn’t that bad, which is precisely why we should demand rigour from our government, regardless of party affiliation. This is why the excuses, whatabouting and dismissals from Tories about Johnson and his colleagues has been infuriating and concerning.

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Of course they would, it’s essentially a different sport. Women can’t reach the same physical capabilities as men, so trained male athletes will always have an advantage, and can win on that alone.

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I really don’t like change, one of my all-time sporting hero’s mo Farah changes his story from being a refugee to now being a modern day slave, lying bastard, lied to get his British citizenship get him on that first plane to Rwanda. Watched him being interviewed on so many tv programmes telling us lie after lie, unless of course the BBC paid him load of Dosh to beef his life story up a bit for tomorrows documentary, give me Swanny any day not told as big a porkies as Mo.

Yes, it’s totally reasonable to want to punish the victim in all this.

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Awaywego wrote:

Definitely a good professionally made promo video,wonder if any of the people in it were actual Accrington fans? Are you someone Deerey who just reads the headlines of a story but not the whole article? Even at my first viewing I could see all the diversity

So what? They are just trying to show that everyone is welcome there. How does this impact you?

All this bellyaching about people in a video, because they aren’t white men, is very PC in mindset.

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True. My comment was directed towards the few who have complained, not those like Pat. :-)

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Bunch of snowflakes upset by people appearing on a video clip. :-)

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Of course if we didn’t have any racists, sexists and homophobes we wouldn’t have any political correctness.

Political correctness is annoying when it prevents people from being able to discuss anything, or occasionally find humour in life, even in satire (not speaking about Roy ‘Chubby’ Brown here). However, rainbow laces, women’s days and the like are no issue and it is bizarre people get so irritated by attempts at making others feel welcome, especially when said people haven’t been in the past.

How do these things affect others in any way? Awaywego doesn’t have to wear rainbow laces, but it might make a gay man or lesbian woman feel accepted after decades of not being. I am just as weary of people getting offended by these things as I am people getting offended by a Ricky Gervais joke. No-one cares about your offense.

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