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AB will have watched and have seen and heard TT doubling down defending his tactics.
What do fans know about football at best they’ve managed under 14 kids teams.1 user thanked author for this post.
AB will have watched and have seen and heard TT doubling down defending his tactics.
What do fans know about football at best they’ve managed under 14 kids teams.To be fair, I think there is some truth in what Tuchel said. The retreat to defending like the Alamo has happened under more than one manager, so while I don’t think Tuchel helped with those subs and found little success in pushing them up, I think mentality needs to change. It’s like our players are geared to thinking “now to see it out” at 1-0 and I think this has been instilled by more than Tuchel. To learn from this, the FA needs to look at how to coach this out of them during the youth level and maybe, in time, we can go to the next step.
The positives are that we can now regularly make it far in tournaments, so something is going right, and we can say we are among the best in the world (if not quite yet the best). It’s not like the overhyped 20 year ago team, we are a force to be reckoned with and proved that for 60 minutes against Argentina.
During the end of Sotuhgate’s reign, the Southgate fans were saying the players weren’t good enough and we could only go far because of him, while Southgate’s detractors said the players were the best and his tactics let us down. I think the reality is in between. We do have good players and a good squad, but not quite the best, so they deserve respect while recognition that we need to change something to go that one better.
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So what your saying is when the group get together there’s a mental change in them from club football and they then all buy into we must defend our lead syndrome.
Done quite well in youth tournaments by the way.
Nagh don’t buy it, like Scunthorpe the manager he needs to learn it’s a 100+- mins game nowadays potentially 130+- in that semi and he takes a forward off after 72, he fluffed his lines plain and simple.
Guess you watched the game how did you think it would play out seeing what you saw, any different from how it did play out?
Still might of lost giving it a go but we’ll never know, all we do know is it knocked all the positivity out our game which breeds into the crowd which then goes back on the players.
Now how many times did Butler see that last season and yet not learn a bloody thing.1 user thanked author for this post.
We were defending like the Alamo before 72 minutes. None of what I am saying is to excuse Tuchel. He shouldn’t be making these comments publicly, nor should he have leaned into negative tactics by bringing more defenders on. He shoulders a large portion of responsibility. However, this kind of mentality has shown its head time and time again under different managers, so I don’t think it’s all down to that. It is Tuchel’s job to coach that out of them, however.
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Also bearing in mind after the Croatia game Tuchel said he told the team at halftime to play like us and not to protect the lead which had led to us surrendering 1 and 2 nil leads. So why defend after the first goal on Wednesday night, it wasn’t a Mexico situation where we had only ten men so in fact he contradicted himself on Wednesday compared to the first group game. Listen he dropped a bollock but he is still a top coach and he deserves a go at the Euros IMO.
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Two of the top ranked teams making it to the final was always the most likely outcome. That’s to do with the original draw for the competition and the implementation of “seeded” teams. If you think that is fixing it for the top ranked teams, fair enough. Despite seeing some odd refereeing and VAR decisions the only nation to benefit from the direct intervention of FIFA was the USA.
The next World Cup will mark the centenary of the competition yet there have been only eight different winners. Three from South America and five from Europe. It is FIFA’s job to promote WORLD football and as long as the winner keeps coming from those two continents it could be argued that they are not doing their job.
They expanded the tournament to 48 nations this time round yet the winners will be one of two who first appeared in the 1930s.
FIFA would love to see a country from outside of Europe or South America win it but I don’t see it changing.
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Here’s a thought:
Both England and France changed winning tactics for the semis, resulting in Fanny’s dream final.
Draw your own conclusions.
Tend to agree with Siderite’s musings on this one. Definitely on Tuchel on the whole but more complex than just on all on him. Yes, his subs backfired but players bottled it too. And ultimately, the quality is not up to Spain or France. I was pretty confident they’d beat Argentina, and up to the first goal, I think that was looking valid. We can be forgiven for believing they’d push on for a second goal the way they’d been approaching games up to that point. The amount of space the World’s best player had to run riot was criminal. As Messi said afterwards, it felt like they were giving up so they took the game to them. Again, that’s on the players too, not just Tuchel.
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Bit like Awaywego I didn’t watch until the last five minutes of stoppage time in extra time after we had finished watching a film. Saw enough after the final whistle to confirm what the majority have thought for decades, Argentina are a bunch of cheating thugs, would expect sanctions to follow but knowing the attitude of the current sycophant running FIFA who knows.
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They don’t take defeat very well. It’s one thing revelling in sneaky anti-football antics, quite another, crying wolf when they’re caught out. Cowards.
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It’s quite amusing that they were let off by officials so many times in the tournament and still couldn’t win it. Jokers.
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