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People said the strikers got little in crosses so 442 will be ineffective if some of the 2nd four are told to stay near the 1st four. Which start to look like a 5122.

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Some of the words from the manager says it all – “I am happy with the point…..”

Said before targeting is negative. It will not achieve success because it encourages mediocrity. What is the point of having 2 big centre forwards and no wing play ?

Last season the support was to help save the club, this season they expect entertainment. Read the postings on last nights game, they were not entertained and may make people not want to travel away. The next thing will be home gates will fall because the fans are being treated with contempt.

Whatever level a managers intention should be to want to win ALL games, what is wrong in that. But to be happy with a point will encourage a fall in interest and the comments on the standard of passing are disturbing. Can’t pass the ball, one of the most important of skills comes from disinterest.

If a Manager cannot sort that out he is in the wrong profession.

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That scrapping midfielder so many call for. The 2 that I rated were Dean Martin and Sam Togwell – knew what they had to do and did it.

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Tom Pugh scenario all over again. Good luck to him and he will do well because he will get game time in a sensible formation.

In the last 5 interviews the repeated line I hear is ‘people making bad choices and errors’ and yet they play again and again. Fin deserved a run of games and his enthusiasm would driven others to up their game.

But it seems as though he isn’t playing but the defeats may be his fault – don’t like that !!

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Confirmed by Mr Butler that for our home game against Buxton we set up to deal with what they do – says individual errors cost us. Therefore that means it did not work, so what about setting up and make opponents have to deal with us.

Targeting does not work and the Buxton game proves it.

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Chuckle brother passing is not the way forward, literally.

It becomes boring, predictable and negative.

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At Gateshead Mr Beck not too prolific 15 games 1 goal. Previous clubs average goal return, only Darlington showing a near 1 goal for each 2 games.

But tall – so 442 or 433 more a possibility with 2 tall fwds could indicate more wing play.

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IRON BRU will need another podcast. Timing of said announcement needs discussing.

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cassidystash wrote:

Sanfran49 wrote:

Could it be a defining match ?
Will the new signings play ?

Maybe the new players will allow him to play a different formation. Let’s see who they are but surely an opportunity to slot them into the team and make an impact.
He might also give Brogan a start and remember Rowley but it’s a game we need to win.

Issue for me was pre-season recruitment based on the system that was going to be favoured ?

Will new players help a new system be introduced while present players settle into it ?

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Could it be a defining match ?

Will the new signings play ?

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The first player move needs to be Round Pegs in Round Holes, then drop any thought of 7 – 9 in defence ! 442 or 433 needs restoring then get the passing basics right.

And this talk of Luke Williams – it is not the way to go.

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Dicky Dosh once changed a lineup brining in 1 player – to fit them in he moved 6 others !

Due to confused players were well beaten.

Square pegs in round holes never works perhaps 2moro will be a new dawn.

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WonderGoals wrote:

Still got two games in hand though. Buxton also coming up on Saturday have just started to hit some form.

This will be the tester.

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Set up for them to have to deal with us. Good passes forward and pace off the ball will be a good start.

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Iron old boys at Cleethorpes now. Gallimore, Bateson, Lewis and now Braithwaite.

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We must not treat them with contempt, need to be 100% professional.

Their management team are I believe the ones who guided Salford towards the league. They are a principled pair and very experienced at this level. They have a difficult job but they will never quit so we must remember this.

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Will be decided by the energy in the pre match managers instructions.

Hope it is us that dictate from the start.

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Ferrite wrote:

Are we still litigating this? Jimmy Dean, that outstanding manager who built on his successful time at SUFC to take a job in a higher league? That Jimmy Dean?

No. In a previous interview I think with Humberside she said everything was dealt with.

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Butterfield was released because the wages offered were not enough.

The reasons for the low offer were obvious – we needed to save money.

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Just be US. Keep the plan basic and simple and make opponents have to cope with us.

Being on the front foot at every chance boosts confidence and pace. The results needed for promotion will follow.

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Deereyme66 wrote:

Wouldn’t have happened under Hilton:

’86’ The Rushall away supporters are given a round of applause by the entire stadium after the attendance appears on the big screen’

https://x.com/ROFCOfficial/status/1848824434020520132?t=wI3ZNGlNAKNsxReb-FM4kQ&s=19

IRON fans will always applaud fans like that.

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I said if we start targeting we will be in trouble.

The fans can see over complication, get back to simplicity.

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Board have had a delicate balancing job. Got to be as competitive as possible yet the debts of the club had to be reduced substantially and with Michelle saying they were now below £100K they have done a great job pulling everyone together.

They are not going to risk the club so the recruit will be very measured. Even though no one has been signed I would not be surprised if talks had not been held. As to strategy well I don’t think wages are the problem because there are some players who have joined clubs on much lower budgets. I prefer 442 so think the players we have would be fine but we play 3511 or 352 or 3142.

Restarting the academies will be a good start but they will take several years to produce their 1st players.

So need to know the formation to be played before you can reruit.

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Also thought Gallimore would have got a contract always looked very organised.

For Rene Artois – Harry Lewis also back at Cleethorpes after a year in OZ. He was released by us went to Trinity and then to Cleethorpes.

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Callum Howe another released several years ago and been competing at the same level very well

So how much money wasted for no better. You have the same with Lewis Butroid – how many attempts to replace have been successful ? Then let ua mention Kyle Wootton a natural centre forward that our clever managers play as a winger !! Then released for next to nothing and scoring regularly in div 1 !!

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CassidysTash – perhaps we are conducting talks but maybe those involved may still be needed where they are.

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RoamingBull wrote:

Iron-awe wrote:

Is the Pep way stale? Lots of goals, some of the best players in world football playing for City, ah yes they don’t wear a red kit kit and talk in a silly Scouse accent, just remembered in time.

No by far from stale and he’s always had the best teams/money at his call which helps.

But I don’t want to see it tried/tested by inferior teams/players. Just think football is more engineered now than actually seeing a flowing game.
If we was to witness a slightly more direct of play than the sideways stuff we do maybe the games would be more exciting. AB seems to be more wanting possession based games than actually going out and giving someone a good hiding. Saying that we were all thinking at some point the team will click and do exactly that but!!
Fingers crossed they prove me wrong Saturday,

Exactly Roaming Bull. Stop messing with shape, formations or whatever – pick one and stick to it eg 442 or 433 my preferred options. Make opponents deal with what we do, stop with the chuckle style and improve the passing because so many complain about passes being either too slow or just poor.

Substitutions when you have to not when the analysis says someone has played a minute too long or run few yds too much. Keep it as simple as possible. And remember that word ENTERTAINING.

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2 nice finishes for Howe, lovely follow in on the near post for Butroids goal and then a nice cross into the box for the 4th.

Certainly nice pass and go football. Well done Russ Wilcox.

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A fantastic win for Trinity. A much needed boost for club accounts as well. Great to see Lewis Butroid on the scoresheet. Still say he should have stayed, gives his team 100% in every game and for me could score more goals – has a great shot whether a moving ball or freekick.

Good luck to them in the 1st Round proper.

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FA do what they want no matter what. Although does not bother me as I no longer watch England games. Got tired of the divas and Mr Southgate.

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