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  • in reply to: Ground Requirements (Step One, Two etc.) #263892
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    For those of us that aren’t registered on either Twitter or Facebook, would anyone post what has been said, incidentally the link to the Twitter thing comes back as an account that doesn’t exist.

    Unfortunately I’m not on Facebook so don’t know what has been said. That Twitter link I posted now doesn’t exist, it was the one that had asked Hilton about what was happening and revealed the plan b ground share with a non league club.

    in reply to: Ground Requirements (Step One, Two etc.) #263885
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    The new owner clearly expects you to be viewing Twitter I-A. Get with the programme mate. I’m sure LK would concur ‘your club needs you!’ 🤣

    Unfortunately just don’t try to look at the twitter account that “reached out” to Hilton for the latest update….

    https://twitter.com/YorkyIron

    in reply to: Max Bell. #263833
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    Maybe should have got the other podcast guy to ask during the reach out interview with Hilton.

    in reply to: Ground Requirements (Step One, Two etc.) #263712
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    The reality is, if Hilton doesn’t complete the GP purchase then Swann has engineered removing the ground from the club and having the ground to do as he wants development wise.
    I don’t see how the numbers add up to give up on GP, rent a non league ground and build a new stadium which even at the most basic level will be £20 million.
    I don’t know exactly what is going on but I think the fans are being played like a cheap fiddle. It’s unbelievable that aside from half a dozen twitter accounts the majority seem to be unaware or ok with it all.

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    in reply to: Ground Requirements (Step One, Two etc.) #263703
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    https://footballgroundguide.com/clubs/gainsborough-trinity-the-northolme

    thought i would see what GTFC ground is like .. seems ok , take it open un covered end will be the away end for our “home” fixtures.

    Local pubs and businesses can make hay while the suns shines with twice the number of home fixtures being played there.

    Sloping pitch is good too.
    Transport and parking aside, there will be numerous other issues moving a 3,000 person average attendance into somewhere set up for a third of that on a usual match day.
    I think we really need to hope Mr H secures GP in some way.

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    4) So is there a plan B if the GP plan doesn’t work?
    “Yes, We signed an agreement on April 28th with a local club which meets league requirements and was approved by the league who have provided a licence for the current season. This is our plan B but is very much a contingency

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    in reply to: Ground Requirements (Step One, Two etc.) #263694
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    As someone who has visited a number of non league grounds and all the local area ones, get ready for a wake up call if SUFC end up playing at one.
    The majority of the capacity will be standing and probably uncovered. A nice summers day for a pre season friendly then great. A Tuesday night in January not so great.
    I’m sorry but if plan B playing at a non league ground becomes a reality it won’t be good.
    I realise we have to play all away games at such places, but at home ?

    in reply to: Hilton #263641
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    If we had more transparent updates from DH and the occasional interview with an independent journalist that asks more new questions and skirt round the edges less, Insider’s leaks might be redundant.

    Spot on. I know there’s no actual local Iron reporter like the old evening telegraph days but surely Matt Dean or Olly “Bombshell” Turner should be all over the entire sufc story ?

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    in reply to: And that, boys and girls is the hat trick #263632
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    Give in, be grateful it’s so much easier.

    in reply to: And that, boys and girls is the hat trick #263631
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    Because the said fan “reached out” to him, and he answered. There is no problem everything is in hand so no need for any official statement beyond that already issued 2 weeks ago.

    😬

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    in reply to: And that, boys and girls is the hat trick #263469
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    I got as far as “reached out” then threw up .So can someone précis for me

    Everything the same as per the fans forum and the club statement that followed with the following additions
    1) A plan b – that is an agreement with a local non league club to play there if Hilton’s GP lease idea fails, this has apparently been approved by the league.
    2) Someone has produced a stadium design on a Sinclair zx81 and superimposed it on the new stadium site outline.

    in reply to: Land Acquired #262697
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    This Twitter stuff is horrendous. Sorry but there’s been enough red flags around Hilton from day 1, my mind is made up that he’s bad news. I don’t see any signs that his reign will end positively, I’ll conserve my energy for the inevitable next bad chapter.

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    In the meantime another burner on Twitter abuses those asking valid questions about GP and the new land purchase.
    https://twitter.com/MallisonTy40353/with_replies

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    I think if Hilton had framed 1899 differently it would have had a chance.
    I would have put that amount in to actually save the club. A fan owned company that actually owned the ground, securing it for Scunthorpe United to play there, either for ever or until DH builds a new place. But 1899 came across as a timeshare scheme for a seat in Mortz and a season ticket and also raised a number of questions that haven’t been satisfactorily answered, hence the low take up.

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    Looking at your point 2 it says nominated by Scunthorpe United Supporters Society Limited. Did Swann even know ?

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    Unless I’ve misheard Waltham on the radio humbs clip, he is saying Hilton might well have had contact with council officers, but Waltham himself hasn’t had anything to do with it and the planning process can’t be prejudged.
    To be fair to Hilton if he’s spoken to someone at the council about it what more can he say at the forum ?

    in reply to: Fans forum #262588
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    a lot doesn’t make sense, if he is willing to pay 20k a month rent he may as well pay Swann up and build the new ground and sell GP off himself

    Mick the way I heard that bit is that if Swann agrees to sort out the site issues preventing the sale then Hilton will pay him £20k a month rental for that period.

    Of the issues Hilton raised with Swann to be resolved the one regarding the unregistered strip of land is the one that could take some time to complete (I think 2 to 3 months was mentioned).

    Hilton clearly stated if Swann resolves the issues that were unknown to Hilton back in January then he will pay the £3.5m

    They are probably calling each others bluff so we will probably find out the rights and wrongs of the situation when we know who blinks first.

    I haven’t seen anyone else explain what he said like that, which seems quite reasonable. The club should make an announcement instead of a basically private forum resulting in more muddy water.

    in reply to: Fans forum #262548
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    He’s assumed the fans will accept it all so why not……

    in reply to: Fans forum #262535
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    In summary then after trawling through this and twitter :

    Hilton – “It is Swann”.
    Dean – “It was the players”.
    Turnbull – “zzzzzzzz”.

    Despite the easiest, actually legal, and least costly option being to just complete on the agreed purchase of GP from Swann, Hilton is going to back out mainly due to the presence of a ransom strip presumably owned by Swann.
    Swann has no doubt created such a ransom strip to make sure any purchaser of GP can’t develop it as anything other than a football stadium without remunerating him.
    This has annoyed Hilton so much that he is prepared to back out of the GP deal to the point of accepting he will be sued and will attempt to blag keeping the club at GP for as long as possible.
    Luckily there is a site in Scunthorpe, which might be ok for a new ground and the council are ok with it. Somehow this will be financed and built within 2 years
    (google LNER Stadium York for a reality check). Amidst all this a real good tilt at getting automatic promotion from NLN is being launched.
    Something else was also said to allay any rumours about anything else, but nobody can quite elaborate on exactly what that was, some are ok with it, some aren’t.
    Have I got the wrong end of the stick ? Because if not, ffs.

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    in reply to: Fans forum #262474
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    Swann has caused the issues but SUFC can still play at GP next season ?

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    in reply to: Land Acquired #262451
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    That was a post WG not a response to being asked a question

    If you look at the aerial image of the sites, look bottom right and notice the initials.

    You are sharp. Attention to detail 👍

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    in reply to: Fans forum #262380
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    My fear – The GP purchase has fallen through, everything moves to Ilkeston and we play there until the new ground, that he’s bought the land for already, gets planning permission, funds and finally is built. In other words X number of years later. Maybe.

    My hope – The dude is minted beyond all belief and wants to build an awesome legacy for his family in the town of Scunthorpe. He’s buying GP as planned, we stay there until a new stadium and training facility is built when he will then develop GP and get some of his money back.
    In the meantime all the embargo and other rumours are quashed and a squad capable of winning NLN is being assembled ready for a fantastic season, where we actually win for a change.

    in reply to: Fans forum #262128
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    Fans forum with 200 tickets, there are apparently 50ish paid up members of 1899 and 1000 season ticket holders, so I can’t see many tickets left at the end for anyone else. It should at least be filmed and put on the club website or YouTube.
    Rumours of Hilton not going to buy GP and talk of a transfer embargo, I hope this fans forum puts it all to bed once and for all but I fear it won’t.
    To quote Douglas Adams “If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands.”

    in reply to: Where do we start the season? #261433
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    May have to review my giving the benefit of the doubt position. It feels slightly naive to talk about Dean, squads, NLN etc

    in reply to: Where do we start the season? #261429
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    SUFCofficial and radio humberside sports are my usual visits. Had a fair bit of my own problems this week and haven’t trawled into it enough to realise that had happened. It seemed to go from questioning Hilton with a couple of Nom de Plumes claiming to know him and I when I next looked it was all about payday…
    Crazy and scary times indeed.

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    in reply to: Where do we start the season? #261427
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    You have failed to mention that one of those had a picture of their house sent to them on Twitter by a new account “samfran98959645”, an account which has now been deleted.

    Well well, interesting, and proves to me I’m correct that Twitter is The Wild West.
    Coming on here is the most peeping out from under my stone that I’m currently prepared to do. I’m not on Twitter and it will keep asking me to sign up if I go too far looking at stuff.
    I saw a couple of Hilton sceptics arguing with some new accounts who claimed to recently spoken to him over a pint etc (😬). Check my other posts, I’m firmly in the sceptical camp but as yet there’s smoke and some cryptic “I know something you don’t “ shite, and not much more. I’ve looked down the White/Hilton rabbit hole posted online and, yes, there are some joinable dots but very circumstantial evidentially.

    in reply to: Where do we start the season? #261371
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    Why would you worry that a some “haters” (whatever/whoever they are) would decide him to chuck it all in ? I’ve not heard any dissent at the matches, people even travelled to Dorking when we were already dead and buried and weeds growing on the grave.
    If a few people on Twitter questioning his background are enough to make him give up then being a football club owner probably isn’t for him. From what I’ve seen this week at least a couple of Scunthorpe supporting twitter accounts that got involved have deleted themselves so obviously Twitter isn’t for them.
    Spurs fans were chanting for Levy to get out of their club at Liverpool this afternoon and they have a fantastic team, stadium, near the top of the Premier League. I doubt Levy could give a tin shit what they think or be bothered to read their moaning on social media.
    Deans planning for next season – good ! So am I, looking up where the feck Curzon, Chorley and Banbury are.

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    https://twitter.com/HumbersideSport/status/1652391753574383619?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

    Haven’t bothered listening myself, but he has spoken.

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    in reply to: The Ups & Downs In NLN #261138
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    Good luck to Gainsborough tonight in playoff semifinal.Away to Bamber bridge,some old iron names there. Bishop and stamp management team, hornshaw and I think sellars-Fleming is on loan there. Leading goalscorers in their division and a tight defence.Hopefully they will progress and give us a local derby match next season

    Trinity lost on pens. Matlock also out, so Bamber Bridge or Warrington will be a destination next season.

    in reply to: Will Hilton be there tomorrow #260986
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    If I’m interpreting those Twitter screenshots correctly @RyanJohnson78438 is claiming to have been sat with Mr Hilton four times this season and today Hilton has confirmed spending £1.2m so far to him…?
    Weird to say the least.