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May 31, 2023 at 1:48 pm #263373
They won’t take those down from The Fishy unless they are proven libellous – after what happened with our previous primary funder ,it’s like Town fans have a vested interest in potential ‘Wrong un’ club owners and seem to be out for them -that it’s Scunthorpe in this case just magnifies this case .it would go off on there big time if it just vanished, I imagine .
May 31, 2023 at 3:13 pm #263378‘It is no surprise to me that iron-bru.co.uk is being targeted, just as it doesn’t surprise me why Hilton went on Iron Hour’.
Agreed. Nothing remotely ‘independent’ about Iron Hour’. This is why Bru is valued by many of us on here; for maintaining independence and being critical but fair, supportive when it’s merited. Without it, we’d be poorer as supporter base. We often don’t agree with each other, the last few months have reached a peak, but give me that any day over a doolally Facebook Group and the critique-lite lad bantz of Iron Hour. IMO if they’d received a small fraction of the insults and abuse hurled at SST, ME and BM over the years, they wouldn’t have lasted five minutes. Thus, Max’s latest cheap shot grates even more.
May 31, 2023 at 3:23 pm #263380It does amuse me to see Iron Hour get criticisms for being weak on critique and soft on Hilton after the way 3 of the 4 have had a go at Iron Bru for being too weak on Swann (I don’t think Gareth has, to be fair). However, I don’t see anything to suggest that they are some club sponsored mouthpiece.
That said, I do agree that the style isn’t for me and it is unlikely to yield any productive critique of the situation. It does just seem to be a group of lads drinking a beer, while cracking jokes and the occasional Iron talk is thrown in.
May 31, 2023 at 3:31 pm #263381It is that, and fine if you like it, but when a key member starts spreading rubbish about like Max has done, it’s out of order. I’ve noticed other members of it chipping in with occasional digs on Twitter too. Anyway, made my point, just my opinion. Don’t want to labour it.
May 31, 2023 at 3:47 pm #263383Coming to a footy forum near you very soon, Iron-Bru v Iron Hour, maybe time for some popcorn 🤔 PS, links will be provided.
May 31, 2023 at 3:48 pm #263384It is that, and fine if you like it, but when a key member starts spreading rubbish about like Max has done, it’s out of order. I’ve noticed other members of it chipping in with occasional digs on Twitter too. Anyway, made my point, just my opinion. Don’t want to labour it.
Fair, though I had thought the others had toned it down since making it and getting messages of good luck from IB.
May 31, 2023 at 4:04 pm #263387It does amuse me to see Iron Hour get criticisms for being weak on critique and soft on Hilton after the way 3 of the 4 have had a go at Iron Bru for being too weak on Swann (I don’t think Gareth has, to be fair). However, I don’t see anything to suggest that they are some club mouthpiece.
Gareth comes across as a genuine bloke who loves united. Max wants to build a media portfolio and has got Gareth involved. Don’t know the others bar Joe who was treated like **** by a self appointed club official.
Whilst Bru has had Toby on recently who would go see United if they played on the moon, Brad and others.
May 31, 2023 at 6:34 pm #263406Surprised thought you had some common ground with the ban
June 3, 2023 at 8:01 pm #2637591stly his comment is a total fabrication,one can only guess at why, just after his new pals whom he’s using as a vehicle for his out of control ego ,” reached out” to Hilton that he chose to libel Bru/Matt while offering no proof.
What we do know is that he was always wanting to be on the bru podcast and Matt sometimes indulged him until he stole content from Bru for a book he was “writing” and gave no credit ,didn’t even bother to ask permission .He’s a councillor now,would you trust this person whom I believe to be an egomaniac?
He was all over the Trust when it was launching too,I bet if you ask them he’s nowhere to be seen nowJune 3, 2023 at 9:28 pm #263762He reached out to the one’s that would entertain him .
I don’t like it the lads get abuse , people slandering them ,saying they are on board with Swann or whatever .
They are good guys ,i genuinely believe that and I think Simon Eliott is to (with whatever information he has been drip fed)
A lot of your fans need to wake up ,and that’s from a Grimsby fan who for some reason actually cares about Scunthorpe Utd .
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June 3, 2023 at 9:49 pm #263763A lot of your fans need to wake up ,and that’s from a Grimsby fan who for some reason actually cares about Scunthorpe Utd .
With all due respect. Grimsby fans watched Fenty systemically ruin your club from championship regulars, to non league (twice) and left you with a Sunday league training pitch a ground falling to bits whist taking the Mariner’s trusts shares. Grimsby fans were angry yet could barely muster a protest of more than a few dozen together.
I’m not isolating Grimsby fans either; it’s difficult for clubs with smaller fan bases to organise themselves accordingly.
There is literally nothing we can do other than ask questions when we can. We don’t even a local newspaper around these parts.
June 3, 2023 at 10:00 pm #263764Exactly I didn’t and I am not too big to admit that,that’s maybe why I care more . I did not realise at the time what a mess we were in – but if it comes to the worst I don’t want Scunthorpe Utd to go and I am pretty sure 99% of Town fans don’t .
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June 3, 2023 at 10:26 pm #263766It was very snide, no coincidence that the following day the iron hour were acting as Hilton’s mouthpiece again.
June 3, 2023 at 11:50 pm #263771Exactly I didn’t and I am not too big to admit that,that’s maybe why I care more . I did not realise at the time what a mess we were in – but if it comes to the worst I don’t want Scunthorpe Utd to go and I am pretty sure 99% of Town fans don’t .
I think this is where an independent regulator is desperately needed within our game. In fairness it is not our responsibility to be trawling through company accounts and become experts in conveyancing.
It’s the Wild West at the moment and clubs like Macclesfield and Bury should not be going out of business.
June 4, 2023 at 12:24 am #263773Absolutely Wild West Cliff. But can you see an independent regulatory body happening soon? So in the meantime…
June 4, 2023 at 7:58 am #263776I don’t even know how they would regulate it tbh .
This fit and proper person test and proof of funds model obviously is not fit for purpose .Just look at Wigan – taken over and then not paying staff or player wages a few months later then getting points deducted ,which I am not sure is really a suitable punishment when it’s not changing people not getting paid or particularly punishing the owner .
I am not sure what the answer is .
June 4, 2023 at 7:36 pm #263785I don’t even know how they would regulate it tbh .
This fit and proper person test and proof of funds model obviously is not fit for purpose .Just look at Wigan – taken over and then not paying staff or player wages a few months later then getting points deducted ,which I am not sure is really a suitable punishment when it’s not changing people not getting paid or particularly punishing the owner .
I am not sure what the answer is .
As you say, the Owners’ & Directors’ Test is an absolute farce. You could be a discharged bankrupt, have been subject previously to a banning order preventing you from being a director of a company and have a list of spent convictions as long as your arm and you would still pass it. That’s how committed the FA are to cleaning up the game. The further down the pyramid you go, it’s a self certification exercise.
Of course it’s all too easy to point the finger at the FA, but outgoing owners and the board of directors at clubs have a massive part to play by ensuring their clubs don’t get passed on to crooks because that’s what good people and good custodians do. There is absolute no excuse if a club ends up in the wrong hands.
I would like to see club owners having to register a personal bond with League equivalent to perhaps 35%-50% of a club’s turnover. This will be held in trust and if required, used by the League if they ever need to step in to ensure creditors are paid. This upfront obstacle would put off a lot of the flash, no cash brigade and at the end of an owner’s tenure the bond would be refunded back to them.
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June 5, 2023 at 7:37 pm #263831I see his mate has started asking difficult questions now –
https://twitter.com/Ironarmyhd/status/1665729010813267970?s=20
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June 5, 2023 at 7:44 pm #263832Max won’t be happy with him for listening to such malicious rumours and scaremongering from SST! :-)
June 5, 2023 at 8:11 pm #263833Maybe should have got the other podcast guy to ask during the reach out interview with Hilton.
June 6, 2023 at 9:49 pm #263926https://twitter.com/Ironarmyhd/status/1666019654685319169?s=20
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June 7, 2023 at 8:50 am #263963Gareth needs to be careful. Such comments will be interpreted as rumours, scare mongering and abuse of the saviour by some.
June 7, 2023 at 9:17 am #263967Some people on here seem like 2+2 would confuse them. Don’t expect them to comprehend that level of post Siderite 🤣
June 7, 2023 at 1:01 pm #263977Some people on here seem like 2+2 would confuse them. Don’t expect them to comprehend that level of post Siderite 🤣
There really are some patronising so and so’s on here.
June 7, 2023 at 3:26 pm #263990Yes dear of course
June 9, 2023 at 8:40 pm #264205Max Bell committed socialist backing someone who quotes Trump and Musk as people who’s example is worth following and a manager who had to delete his posts ,including one with Rees Mogg
June 9, 2023 at 8:43 pm #264208So… He’s not all bad then?
June 9, 2023 at 8:45 pm #264209Not for idiots no
June 9, 2023 at 8:46 pm #264210Whatever
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