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  • in reply to: 1899 prize draw #269006
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    Still no communication regarding the 1899 club draw!..Guess the £100,000 long gone..Not fair when people have parted with nearly £2,000 and hear absolutely nothing!

    Hilton offered to sell something he didn’t own. Caveat Emptor.

    in reply to: 11 days late #269005
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    Too many pessimists on this forum.Too many people think the worst,if you’re not interested in the club doing well don’t use the forum

    FFS, I’ve just read your previous posts, please look up the definition of pessimism.

    in reply to: Closing academy #269004
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    Aside from how the academy closure has been done by Hilton – very badly – which is only to be expected from what I’ve seen from day 1 of his ownership.
    The fact that a team, which used to be one of our main rivals, has partnered with one of the main non league clubs in the Scunthorpe area, and were quite obviously poised waiting for the official demise of the SUFC academy is horrendous.
    Here’s a quote from the Lincoln forum ;

    “ Bottesford is basically in Scunthorpe. Perhaps they could become a feeder club for us….”

    Those saying “cut your cloth”, “we don’t need an academy”, “waste of money” etc etc, Wake Up ! The club has abandoned the young players of the area, now and in the future, to be picked up by the likes of Lincoln City.

    in reply to: Closing academy #268980
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    Good move for a professional football league club.

    in reply to: Closing academy #268973
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    Wasn’t the closing of the academy announced on 14/15 july and yet people are trying so say the boys didn’t find out till the 8th of August, were they wrapped up in cotton wool?

    My understanding was the U18s were continuing. Unless I misunderstood the previous announcements/u turns/hearsay from fans forum/screenshots from Facebook.

    in reply to: Would the last person #268893
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    The lights will go out without the last person having to press any switches AA.
    Just get a pen and a piece of paper and list everything that has happened at Scunthorpe United since this January, the club is falling apart.
    All the social media nonsense with face book and that Herbert character is just a sick sideshow.
    I haven’t got a clue who he is or what he is doing but DH doesn’t have my support.

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    in reply to: The dark side #268803
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    FFS.

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    in reply to: Ernest Pawn v Dildo van Hit #268708
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    If he doesn’t have the money, then what exactly is going on ?
    I don’t know exactly how courts work but if Swann turns up at court with an entourage of solicitors and barristers etc and he wins then could he also get his costs from Hilton as well ?

    in reply to: Ernest Pawn v Dildo van Hit #268704
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    I agree, and like I said that chapter is over, water under the bridge, done and dusted. Coolsilk and therefore Swann, own it. (Or at least have their name on the mortgage…).
    I also hope, like Bartoniron66, that it is settled out of court. I don’t think Hilton will have much chance with this in a courtroom.

    in reply to: Ernest Pawn v Dildo van Hit #268693
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    It is about the stadium and the land. Anything to do with the football club – tax, wages etc won’t be relevant. Swann somehow put GP into the ownership of a separate company, unchallenged at the time, so that part is over.

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    in reply to: Team bus. #268414
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    I’ve tried very hard to deal with this in exactly the same way as you Samways. Unfortunately they are practically no official statements about what is going on though. The owner, under his previous name, is communicating with a Facebook group that seems to allow no questioning or dissent whatsoever.
    Any serious questions about what is happening on here are met with an appearance by Patrick from Ilkeston.
    I get your point but it is burying your head in the sand.
    I don’t see any problem in Sufcnot, IB or iron insider highlighting any possible issues. Forcing them away, which I’m sure would delight DH, is not the answer.
    That doesn’t mean I don’t support the lads putting on the shirts and playing.

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    in reply to: Ilkeston #267771
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    in reply to: Jordan Henderson #267734
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    Can you name another British footballer playing in Saudi ? I can’t.
    Henderson is English still had 2 years on his Liverpool contract and a good chance of playing at euro 24. Not exactly on the breadline.
    He’s gone to a club with 5000 average attendance that are paying £700k a week. I really didn’t think he’d actually do it.

    Not even close to £700k a week!

    He’s sold out for even less then.

    in reply to: Jordan Henderson #267709
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    Exactly Siderite. A “government” hasn’t got any morals or principles. Individuals do.

    in reply to: Jordan Henderson #267692
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    Can you name another British footballer playing in Saudi ? I can’t.
    Henderson is English still had 2 years on his Liverpool contract and a good chance of playing at euro 24. Not exactly on the breadline.
    He’s gone to a club with 5000 average attendance that are paying £700k a week. I really didn’t think he’d actually do it.

    in reply to: Jordan Henderson #267688
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    Doesn’t look good on Liverpool either, they’ve got £12 million from the Saudi club for him.

    in reply to: Non League Newspaper #267651
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    He is a property developer!

    Is he? How many properties has he developed?

    I don’t know IB but Maxwell Cohen are or were involved with the Bridge Inn at Cotmanhay and wasn’t there a closed restaurant on the A52 at Elton which has been converted to flats which was something to do with one of Hilton’s companies ?

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    in reply to: Thanks anti-vaxxers #267589
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    The ad- hom attacks are laughable.
    These references , do you understand any of them?
    John Campbell goes through scientific papers,with analysis , not veering from given facts.
    Your counter evidence has no substance- unless you can enlighten me further?
    “Waiting for another cartoon”, to show your intelligence.

    I did read them, and broadly understood them, there’s a few big words but with a dictionary and Google I got by.
    Why don’t you do the same, open your eyes beyond the narrow world you currently inhabit.
    Here’s the cartoon you asked for :
    https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/correlation.png

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    in reply to: Non League Newspaper #267580
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    Not to mention the revenue trade off created by 1899 “free” season tickets. My estimate is £600-£700k but feel free to correct me if my maths is incorrect.

    While we’re not mentioning things. Not to mention wasn’t the original 1899 plan to sell off and redevelop everything except the actual stadium ?

    in reply to: Thanks anti-vaxxers #267572
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    “They’re linked in the article”,so I don’t see the point?
    Come on rub my face in it, put the evidence on here, show the rest of here that your sources are sound.

    Here’s some of it from the article –

    REFERENCES

    1 – Xie et al. (2022) Long-term cardiovascular outcomes of COVID-19. Nature Medicine.
    2 – Yuk et al. (2023) Association of COVID-19 with short- and long-term risk of cardiovascular disease and mortality: a prospective cohort in UK Biobank. Cardiovascular Research.
    3 – Raisi-Estabragh et al. (2022) Cardiovascular disease and mortality sequelae of COVID-19 in the UK Biobank. Heart.
    4 – Xu et al. (2021) COVID-19 Vaccination and Non–COVID-19 Mortality Risk — Seven Integrated Health Care Organizations, United States, December 14, 2020–July 31, 2021. Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.
    5 – Bilinski et al. (2023) COVID-19 and Excess All-Cause Mortality in the US and 20 Comparison Countries, June 2021-March 2022. JAMA Network.
    6 – Tu et al. (2023) SARS-CoV-2 Infection, Hospitalization, and Death in Vaccinated and Infected Individuals by Age Groups in Indiana, 2021‒2022. American Journal of Public Health.

    And some YouTube which you obviously rely on –

    in reply to: The new stadium. #267463
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    “ The owner of an asset of community value must inform the local authority if they wish to sell the asset. If a qualifying community group wants to buy the asset, they can trigger a moratorium for six months, to give them a chance to raise the money to purchase the asset. The owner does not have to sell to a community group. The asset of community value listing only improves the chances of community groups being able to purchase by providing more time to raise funds. It does not require the owner to sell at a discount.”

    I would assume GP is no longer subject to an ACV.

    Even worse situation than I thought then.

    in reply to: The new stadium. #267445
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    Look at how Swann engineered seperating the ground from the club, and getting us to this situation. Bit by bit, “the club is protected”, “99 year lease”, “blah blah blah” then relegation, winding up order, sale of sufc separately to Hilton.

    The issue for Swann now is that GP has been registered as an asset of community value, it seems to me that means as long as that is the case it can only be sold as a sports stadium which pretty much limits the interested parties to sufc. Therefore he now needs to sell it to sufc or create a situation where the asset of community value doesn’t stand anymore or he can argue that it is no longer relevant.
    What worries me is that he will get a court order to repossess GP, Hilton then fires up his contingency ground share and new ground plans (whether the new stadium is achievable or not is irrelevant). Swann then goes to court for removal of the asset of community value saying sufc haven’t bought the ground as offered to them, they are now ground sharing and planning to build a new stadium.

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    in reply to: The new stadium. #267424
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    I think where Swann is concerned it would be wise to look a couple of moves ahead rather than too much at what is happening immediately.

    in reply to: The new stadium. #267401
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    I don’t know, is it his job? They deal with facts and previous case law. Whether the judge likes football or their arthritis is playing up on the day won’t come into it. If there is some issue that Hilton doesn’t like I think the judge will say “don’t buy it then”.

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    in reply to: The new stadium. #267399
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    Have a read of Swanns statement again. He doesn’t mention the unregistered strip of land or the right of way at all yet these are the main basis in Hilton’s statements for not being able to complete on the deal to purchase GP.
    Will a high court judge care one way or the other ?
    Coolsilk own GP and Hilton hasn’t bought it as agreed, I think a judge will say buy it or leave it and probably won’t be too impressed with Hilton’s lease stunt.
    I hope I’m wrong and we stay at GP but it doesn’t look good*.

    *(in my own totally unqualified opinion…..)

    in reply to: Catering Point a Joke #267335
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    I think DH also says he doesn’t expect the trust would waive off the asset thing.

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    Anyone got the full article from the Nation league newspaper it doesn’t show it in full missing the bit about the ground being a community asset him not wanting it and the iron trust wavering their right to buy. Will try and buy one if not.

    I’ve spoken to someone who has read the article and they explained it to me that DH says Swann hasn’t dealt with asset of community value side of things properly and a way to get around that would be for the trust to waive their claim to it being such an asset.
    I could have understood him wrong with Chinese whispers etc but that’s how he read the wording and explained it to me.
    Sorry in advance if that isn’t totally correct.

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    in reply to: Catering Point a Joke #267297
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    He’s obviously onto the issue, to be fair it’s a minor one compared to dealing with Swann.
    Why would anyone be throwing tennis balls onto the pitch ?

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    Good point Sufc_not_on_tour, we are still deeply in the excrement.
    I’m glad Patrick looked after Awaywego and MK and he’s obviously keen to extend hospitality at GP at some future game and clearly has authority from DH to make such kind gestures. With everything that has happened the 2 clubs and their respective fans should have a good relationship, and friendly links.
    Whatever anyone may think about IB and his, or her, motives it is apparent that Patrick and one or two others would like to see the back of IB and that worries me as much as anything.

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