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Most clubs operate at a loss don’t they? Bit of a moot point. More to do with how you service the debt I’d have thought.

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Anyway, gotta crack on, busy day tomorrow. In between a long journey I need to fit in a fair few mea culpa’s.

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‘Stone throwing leads to sentences’. That made me chuckle. Thanks.

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I think you misinterpreted the original post tbh Siderite. Maybe you think we’re idiots? I don’t know. I know you’ve accused me of slander recently and made comparisons to Bucksiron’s style of debate, whilst ironically strawmanning me, so ‘meh’ indeed.

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Why are you bringing what’s happening to Jews and synagogues in the UK in to this discussion about Palestinian prisoners? Everyone on this forum will find that situation unacceptable and abhorrent.

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Do your concerns about humanitarian agencies include UNICEF, who’ve been very critical, not so much the sentencing itself but the treatment when they’re imprisoned? And, you have no idea of the actual circumstances and context of their arrests. You have no idea whether their incarceration was fair or not.

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‘When terrorists commit a pogrom I can only see conflict as inevitable and the fault of Hamas.’

I understand that. But most if not all these Palestinian’s were imprisoned before 7 Oct for West Bank activity. Numerous independent humanitarian agencies have been raising this is as a concern. Many people like me are only finding out about it now (not that we should feel bad about that, we can’t know everything). I don’t understand why you seem so perturbed that people might concerned about. I don’t see how whataboutery is constructive.

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I would hope no one expects another to ‘fall in line’ tbh. Of course people should express their opinions, within the general rules of the forum. Thankfully that includes no abuse, like one sees on other social media platforms.

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It’s all about opinions Siderite, unless you think you’re right about all that you post on this subject? Hence the ‘frustration’ you mention perhaps? People just want to express their opinion, particularly on the humanitarian aspect of civilians in Gaza. It’s still strangely responded to like it’s a secondary issue.

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‘Oh no, I use sighs to express frustration. If only I shared the right opinion on this to act like such with impunity.’

Carry on with that strawmanning. Sigh…

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No one has said Israel is akin to the Nazi’s on here. I do see on here a number of perfectly reasonable posters, occasionaly asking questions and raising concerns about the actions of the Israeli government and forces, occasionally citing commentators on the conflict, and you, in particular, undermining them and their thoughts on the subject. It happens frequently and quite quickly and IMO, quietens those people in a partronising tone (the use of *sigh* for instance). That’s where I see bias. As for your last sentence, that’s just silly and an example of the ‘one upmanship’ I mentioned before. Shame you’re resorting to the same ‘strawmanning’ you frequently bemoan on here.

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I’m not ‘complaining’ about how you used the term ‘bad news’, I’m making an observation about how you used it. Seemed to be downplaying, but hey, don’t let that stop a convenient comparison to Bucks’ pedantry. Wearisome? Yeah, tell me about it. Bias? I suggested you were demonstrating bias weeks ago and have seen very little since to change my mind about that. But that is just my opinion.

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Might be due to the fact they have less supporters and far less enquiries to deal with and also haven’t had major staffing reductions imposed by the ex-owner that most supporters vehemently defended till the last few weeks of his tenure?

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High standards in science snd journalism should be expected, yes. However, unbiased journalists aren’t perfect and mistakes may be made. At their peril it seems, as plenty of folk are out there waiting for them to screw up and join a pile on or take sides. I’m sure some do it for likes and kudos

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You might agree that ‘bad news’ is an understatement then? Apologies for forgetting a post from 5 days ago.

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‘Netanyahu, and his more ideologically minded allies (Netanyahu is more of a grifter than a hard ideologue, in my opinion) are bad news.’

That’s an big understatement IMO. I can’t see there being a two state solution with their continual support of aggressive far right settlers in the West Bank, even if Hamas were destroyed

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‘some of the standards have fallen way short of acceptable’

Is that an excuse to crucify them on social media, to mock and criticise them, as many are doing? As far as I can see, it’s using the internet to engage in silly tit for tat one upmanship that undermines the seriousness of the situation and smacks of discrediting journalists and media outlets with an ulterior motive. But that is just my opinion. However, I find it as distasteful as elements of the pro-Palestininian rhetoric

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It doesn’t really change much, it’s an article I found interesting. But then I’m not particularly interested in routine ‘gotchas’ of media outlets or a propaganda war on social media populated with people desperately trying to out do each other.

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‘https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/22/middleeast/palestinian-prisoners-potential-release-intl-cmd/index.html’

Thought that was an interesting article. Wouldn’t be surprised to see a withering put down about CNN reporting or their journalists, to add to other news outlets who question the actions of the Israeli government and forces. It’s a big old list including The Guardian and BBC. No questions here please.

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Non-hair washing day.

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‘Other EU countries are of the same view as myself,’

Bru exclusive: EU countries look to Bartonscorpion for strategic leadership.

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I see that thankfully numerous posters have put him straight. Every day’s a school day Paul.

Not looked on there for a while. Notice that supporter with the camera and long lens is still posting tons of intrusive shots of supporters in stands. His mates seem to like it but does everyone else like their dopey fizzogs plastered all over Facebook? What if you’d skived off work to go to the match and your boss sees a pic of you at GP? Does he have permission to snap fans and post them on the internet from GP officials?

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Makes it all the more baffling how the Directors are entertaining him at places like Forest Pines. That’s if any of that is true. Frankly, I’ve seen no evidence that verifies it, and his much publicised friendship with Hilton, apart from his numerous posts, which could be the work of fantasist for all I know. I’d take anything he posts with a large pinch of salt. I’ve seen the photo and clip òf him with Simon in Barnard Castle but beside that, the rest of it could be made up tosh.

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It was mentioned immediately prior to my previous post.

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I’d imagine they’re still untangling the mess left by the ex-messiah.

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Didn’t bother watching last night or v Malta. Expected turgid games since qualifying and players not up for it, skiving off and saving themselves for premier league, etc.

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He’s banned but schmoozing with the Directors at Forest Pines? Don’t get it.

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‘Finishing as Champions is all that matters this season.

[it looks as if Tamworth will take that designation]’

It’s only November!

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Agree with your second paragraph though I do think ‘this could all end if the hostages were released’ is very simplistic and it wouldn’t be the end of it in any case. Hopefully a longer term solution can be reached, but seems impossible.

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