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Awaywego wrote:

So the club deserve a big fine and point’s deduction for fans behaviour Tjo, really.

And what punishment does the club deserve for giving a drugged up Rapper a microphone to abuse and incite Chester fans which the whole ground could hear.

They got the Weekender. Surely that was punishment anough?

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At the end of the day, the problem is with the supporters and their lack of judgement, not Savage.

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TheJuryeffsOut

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Deereyme66 wrote:

In Evans’ recent interview for Humberside, he made a point of saying how much more inspiring it is playing for a club and owner who loves the club through and through and isn’t just ‘pumping’ money in to it. Sounded like a night and day comparison to Hilton / Harness

Hilton didn’t pump money in.

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Really superb first half, as good as I’ve seen a Butler side play. Coped reasonably well when put under pressure in the second but, as ever, cracks started to appear and things began to fall apart a tad when substitutions were made. However, we held on and rode our luck a little bit, imho.

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Player of the season, so far, for me.

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This is the topic in the interview which made me shift in my seat a bit. Just going along with the sort of “look at other clubs who don’t have parking, they manage” thinking is probably sleepwalking into big problems.

On reflection, it’s not in the club’s hands, and those ‘in charge’ did what they had to do to keep the club alive / secure the ground so it’s not their fault, per se.

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On the car park, the loss of revenue and capacity is a concern. Let’s hope that there is not a buyer for that land anytime soon.

This is the topic in the interview which made me shift in my seat a bit. Just going along with the sort of “look at other clubs who don’t have parking, they manage” thinking is probably sleepwalking into big problems.

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I would like to have heard a bit more about learning points from last year beyond the pitch issues, but she is someone who is big enough to admit she and the board won’t get everything right.

I agree that Michelle came across quite well, but I feel there could have been a bit more about the pitch issues. Whatever the reasons / excuses, it’s a shocker that they’ve messed it up completely two seasons running.

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Went off the boil, didn’t do much in his last few weeks.

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Sanfran49 wrote:

He needs regular game time and with us he was getting it. He will not get it at Blunder Park.

How do you know this for sure?

As you said yourself: Let’s see what happens.

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Scales has tried hard but he looks a little bit out of his depth at NL level (as does Andrew Boyce).

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64 wrote:

They’ve not removed the original post just the comments,The Benny Bentley character was one of those attacking the originator.
I personally doubt Butler making any substitutions would have helped.Our big problem is lack of quality up front.It shows most when we are well on top.We get to the edge of the box and either take another touch too many or hesitate which gives the opposition time to get behind there ball in numbers. Carlton’s basic ball control and how often he gets pegged of the ball softly lets him down, he wouldn’t have improved a thing.

They just looked very tired and perhaps a bit mentally shot, to me. The postponed Sutton game has done us a favour, imho.

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I got the impression Positivity Dave had moved to the area relatively recently. I think he said that in a Facebook post. I’m sure someone will confirm or correct? If that’s right, anyway, then he’s certainly overcompensating for the upheaval of moving to a new town and being an unknown. Personally makes me cringe, and I find it all a bit irritating and egotistical (talking in the third person, and handing out mugs) – but have never met him so don’t know whether he’s actually a decent fella or not and is just a bit misguided in his coming on strong.

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I read it as Michelle letting supporters know that they have to be patient as the club has to see these Matt Roberts contracts out. There would probably be financial penalty in walking away from them. In the meantime the club will do their best to extract the maximum value from them. Fair enough. Head down and see them through.

Can’t say I’ve been that impressed with Terrace – but, then again, I really don’t like official club gear / merch that isn’t in absolutely the correct club colours. I believe that approach just muddies the branding water (or, if you prefer, dilutes club identity). That navy blue hoodie Butler has been wearing, for example, or the black coat and the beige bobble hat, etc etc.

Fanbase – haven’t heard a bad word said about it, though I don’t use it myself and prefer physical tickets etc.

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Brad Nicholson is at Solihull Moors, I think he played in the recent match against us?

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Watched it online. One or two slack moments, but generally in control – and a few very good moves. Both goals exceptional.

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In the absence of ‘extended highlights’ from the Peterborough Sports game, there is this one-minute round-up from Isuzu. Decent clear footage of the goals. Perhaps some sort of ‘Isuzu exclusivity’ / ‘first to post’ deal is why United have been unable to post their own highlights. Or maybe they didn’t film any?

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Plymiron

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lesgeo wrote:

Is there any TV coverage of the game against PS?

Not sure there are even any highlights. The club haven’t posted any yet, anyway, and they never usually take this long. Was looking forward to seeing Eze’s goals.

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lesgeo

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Oteh was decent enough – worth a second look, I’d say (and the Peterborough Sports match this weekend would be / would have been ideal). However, it’d be nonsense to have a budget and wage structure and be prepared to bust it. Thanks for your (brief) service Mr Oteh, but we’re moving on.

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Sanfran49

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cassidystash wrote:

But isn’t starting a thread promoting a phrase you hate due to its overuse counter productive?

I hate the phrase ‘counter productive’.

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cassidystash

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backofthenet18 wrote:

Fans having a meltdown in the other site wanting a refund
Anyone would would have thought we’d lost 5-0 and still bottom
Anyone who thinks it deserves refund hasn’t been much in the last few years
That was a game we were very unlucky not to win or even draw
Fourth goal was only because we pushed keeper up

Seeing as there is an effort to chase Butler, who next?

I’d be careful not to frame criticism of the manager’s demeanour as an attempt to chase him out.

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Looked like another fall out with a fan, today. That’s three matches on the trot isn’t it?

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Bhuna5

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MK Iron wrote:

Andy lives up to the Yorkshire stereotype. A Yorkshireman is never wrong.

Of course you get it wrong Andy. All managers buy a few princess and usually a few more dogs. Impossible to not buy dogs at this level and without a top budget.

To be fair to him, I don’t often think it’s a case of digging his heels in and going all out with the “I’m not wrong”. I think it’s more likely that he’s trying to walk a difficult line between having a shit budget and not slagging the owners off for giving him a shit budget, knowing how rough things have been behind the scenes and what it has taken to get this far, and hoping supporters temper their expectations a little bit and recognise that we’ve probably over-achieved.

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Awaywego wrote:

Butler a dickhead with the charm of a bull in a china shop.

Can’t agree with this, as he seems generally pleasant and personable. He’s done a pretty good job so far, all told, on a shit budget. He does, however, seem to struggle with his wider relationship with supporters. A bit of booing and frustration is always going to arise. Talking about it in a radio interview after it’s been quite mild doesn’t bode well for those times (which will surely come) when the team is on its arse and people really ‘let rip’. He has to learn quickly to shoulder it better, imho.

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64 wrote:

Yes and the guy I saw was genuinely foaming at the mouth.Genuinely hideous creature of a man,he also had a young kid with him,what a role model.Swivel eyed may have been an embellishment for added comedic effect mind you

There was a bloke effing and jeffing and absolutely screaming at his little kid outside the ticket office on Saturday. Very unpleasant.

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premier iron wrote:

No video on the SUFC website from Butler yet explaining why we were so poor Saturday especially against a side 4th from bottom

As far as I can see there are no match lowlights from Solihull, either.

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Siderite wrote:

It’s the fans’ club as well, even if some might be negative.

This is partly my point, really. It’s more theirs than his! Being a supporter of a team is for life, whereas the manager’s job is for a short period of time in the grand scheme of things. Not saying he should accept what 64 calls ‘dogs abuse’, of course.

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I think his problem might be how he sees a performance. I don’t think I’ve ever heard him use the word poor even though fans can see that it is.
“Need to be sharper in both boxes”
“Need to be better through the thirds”
“We weren’t really on it”
But never poor. Nobody wants to see a team b********g in the middle of the pitch but players need to be left in no doubt that what we are currently watching is totally unacceptable before the fans do the talking and walk.

I’d rather he was constructive and uses the damage limitation language he does, than throw the players under the bus just so six fans can applaud him for using the word “poor”.

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Ultimately, Andy Butler is trying his best but he seems to be quite thin skinned. To the point where people are booing or shouting and it might not even be aimed at him or the players and he assumes it is!

I agree we want a positive environment, and the achievement so far this season merits a bit of positivity really – but telling fans not to bother coming if they’re not going to happy clap, and seeming to suggest fans should be thrown out… That’s not how it works. There has always been booing and shouting, since before Butler was even born.

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Bhuna5

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Iron-awe wrote:

He would have kept a clean sheet today but for a suicidal back pass that was out of his control, I think for a young keeper he has done ok so far.

Just seen it back on YouTube and the goal is not really down to Mahady. Fair play to Starbuck, he immediately tried to make amends with a cracking effort at the other end.

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