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Apologies for repeating what I said on another thread but much depends on what motivates a player. If it’s purely money then undoubtedly we’re doomed. Gilliead was not a regular starter for Shrewsbury in L1, has he improved – probably, but standards and aspirations will be higher at Ipswich so will he play regularly? He’s a certain starter here and might(?) be settled so let’s hope we can make him a good enough offer so that regular football tips the balance in our favour. Not holding my breath.

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Understandable given the circumstances mentioned, no match, nothing to play for and no transfer window. It doesn’t help that the SUFC Twitter is only interested in selling match passes, replica kits and face masks, personally I’d like to know if Onariase will be fit for Friday and if we’re trying to get any summer OOC players on new contracts which might give us something to talk about. The ongoing lack of any relationship between the Club and the Telegraph means another possible source of information is not available to fans.

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bartonscorpion

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International call ups for too many Newport players.

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Certainly the money will be key and players might have to lower their expectations. Realistically how many of our OOC are capable of playing above L2.(I don’t support the view that we have any Championship quality players – see Charlie Goode for confirmation of what might happen) Consequently they will probably have to rely on one of the “bigger” clubs in L1/L2 (or ambitious NL e.g. Stockport) wanting them to improve on what we are in a position to offer. How many of them are actually as good as their agents think they are? Do they want to play regular football or is the cash more important to them? We know it is to their agent.

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Interesting(?) to note that 2 of our stunning loan signings were unused subs in this game between 2 lowly L2 teams. Clearly two more managers that don’t rate them, were they non-managerial signings there as well?

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Ferrite

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I hope this starts a trend, plenty of Premiership players will be “resting” if it does. I reckon they’ll get it overturned sadly, it wasn’t simulation to win a penalty, just exaggeration.

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O’Malley is unavailable for tomorrow due to international call up. (Congratulations BTW young man)
Cox says many of the players are “leggy” after a lot of games in a short period of time.
Wouldn’t it have made sense to play O’Malley on Saturday and play a fresh Brown tomorrow? Just a thought.

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I suppose it’s a matter of personal make up I-a. If you take pride in your work then it’s good if you feel your work is appreciated. As you say we’re talking about footballers here who are often praised but seldom criticised publicly except by us “know-it-all experts”. Little wonder they take no notice, but I still think the money issue might make them think a bit whether it’s accurate or not.

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Wow, if the players believe anything on this board and take it to heart, they really are stupid.

They should believe lesgeo’s post above and do something about it. Failing to do that would be really stupid.

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“Reacting to the penalty incident involving Jordan Clarke, he said: “Jordan has admitted to pushing him,”

It’s very good of Clarke to clear that up as it can’t have been obvious to those watching. Numpty!!

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Seemed to me that the players had all read the Bru post revealing their (supposed) wages. Enough of them believed what they saw and showed, in their performances, what they thought. Some of those at the top end who are OOC will have to accept the reality of the situation brought about by Covid and prepare to adjust their lifestyle.

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But not if we keep taking a point at home from teams as good as Southend surely?

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Don’t know how they keep clean sheets with Cordner playing, we had difficulty. Surely we learned enough to exploit his weaknesses and score a few.

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“What seems to have changed for the worse is player attitude, and that’s something you don’t know about until after they’ve signed.”

You’ve a better chance of getting players with the right attitude if the manager is responsible for signing them IMO.

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And a P45 for a member of SUFC staff?

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“Who would be bothered if he didn’t play for us again?”

I would, he’s a talented player, better than L2 and we don’t get too many that can excite the crowd as he can. He needs a manager that can get the best out of him and I wish that was here but it clearly won’t be.

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bartonscorpion

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Haven’t they got ambitious backers pumping money in? Could that possibly be a factor, surely not!

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Just seen this from the managers post match interview:-

Cox added: “We’ve had ten penalties against us this year and two sendings off. We’ve been given two penalties and not had anybody sent off against us. I feel as if that aspect has gone against us this season”

That penalty count seems to me to be a fair reflection of the time spent in our penalty area compared to that spent in our opponents.

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alcazar

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Whilst it’s never a good idea to underestimate any opponent there is serious danger in overestimating their ability, which Cox does every time. Certainly needs to consider some attacking intent before fans are allowed back, not as if we’re short of talented attackers is it. Cut them loose Neil before it’s too late.

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alcazar

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Yes, tend to agree NI. No problems with the pens, I think he got them right. One certain red missed and possibly another for the sub who did b* all but foul after he came on. Is it Loft’s size that means he can’t possibly be being fouled, does well to keep his temper in check IMO.

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Not if Scunny Bunny is fit!

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Slightly unfair barton I think. I agree Cox is far from perfect at the moment (I hope he does get better as we need the stability) and some of his tactical decisions are certainly questionable. However, when us Bru experts pick a team we don’t have the inside knowledge that Cox has regarding fitness which is bound to affect selection.

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“Not sure about that, I can’t think of many saves Howard has made which I wouldn’t have expected him to make. Happy to be corrected on that point though.”

No need for correction, it’s just differing opinions based on our perceptions. Certainly cost us a point against Salford at home but the penalty save against Walsall I believe won us 3 points. No way to prove that of course, we might have won anyway but we haven’t won away anywhere else after being behind.

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Whilst it’s true that McAtee is the only one consistently disinterested there have been times when Clarke, KVV, Loft and Eisa haven’t looked that bothered. Have they given 100% in every game? Not IMHO.

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“Completely agree. I don’t understand why people seem to happy to overlook the number of goals he’s cost us with bad mistakes this season.”

I think it’s cost us less than the number of points he’s gained us with crucial saves, but that’s just my view. An experienced ‘keeper is a must, if it’s not Howard fair enough but “better the devil you know” comes to mind. No doubt our chief scout has the position covered already.

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Here we go then, factors considered – likely wages, injury record, ability & perceived attitude.
Not considered – contract situation as not enough known:-

Keep XI
Howard
Rowe Onariase Taft O’Malley
Gilliead Karacan Spence Green
Beestin Loft
Subs Hippolyte

Bin XI
Watson
Clarke McGahey Bedeau Brown
Eisa Hallam McAtee Butroid
Olomola KVV
Subs Dales, Mooney, KDT, Jarvis

Those binned should free up the funds to sign Howard, Gilliead & Karacan plus a few others to beef up and support a not bad starting XI.

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““At least they gave 100%” is a laughable excuse. That is the bare minimum required from any footballer.”

There are several recently, some still here, that would do well to be reminded of that.

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alcazar

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If a family of 4 are watching a match for a tenner and don’t think they’re getting value for money then what chance that they will return to GP, when allowed, if there’s little entertainment on offer.

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StainlessIron

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At home to a team not even in the play off positions is a slightly different situation don’t you think NI?. Surely should be aiming to win games like that rather than the following away match.

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Absolutely right. Does anybody (Cox aside) really believe we have set up or set out, from the start, to win games. If we have then the players have not carried out instructions. I get the impression that setting up not to lose is to blame for certain players not being able to play to their strengths and being either below par or disinterested. Is it really necessary to have KVV in our penalty area defending corners? Is the first priority for the wide players (Gilliead, Green, Eisa, Hippolyte) to provide cover for the FB?
CMs is protecting the back four the main job?

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