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  • in reply to: Club accounts. #301392
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    Size of operation is a factor. The club is averaging attendances over 4,000, majority home fans, which is a lot more than in the later EFL days. A number of staff part time too.

    … plus some volunteering.

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    in reply to: Club accounts. #301389
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    SUFC is over staffed in some areas mentioned bearing in mind we are in the NLN ..

    We don’t know the actual duties and workload, do we – so how can you say that with certainty? Wasn’t it previously mentioned that James Moody was, effectively, doing the jobs of two or three people during the Hilton era? That’s not sustainable in itself – nothing would be given the time it demands or be done with the expertise it requires.

    in reply to: Club accounts. #301383
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    Sustainability isn’t a reality in football.

    You may be right – but if a Club is thinking and working in that direction that’s got to be much better than if it’s operating carelessly or owners are being wilfully extravagant.

    in reply to: Cancel that 3 dayer #301379
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    No licence no event – https://x.com/iainsander18766/status/1906779259508543850?s=46

    Zanetti is not reflecting well on our Club is he? First the Chester half-time embarrassment and now this.

    in reply to: Bad debt 250K – see it now? #301355
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    Kieran Maguire on Humberside
    Club written off 250k from one person that owed the club money. Half the yearly losses.

    … and a carefully worded half of the story.

    in reply to: Bad debt 250K – see it now? #301339
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    Bad debt is a fairly vague term

    Isn’t ‘bad debt’ also sometimes used as the accounting term for inexplicably absent money?

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    in reply to: Bad debt 250K – see it now? #301338
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    Burner accounts have fired up…

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    in reply to: Bad debt 250K – see it now? #301337
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    Bad debt is a fairly vague term

    Trying to make it clear without saying it explicitly, imho

    in reply to: Club accounts. #301324
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    in reply to: Iron Eid party #301298
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    Maybe when the club is losing £65k a month the club shouldn’t be spending money on Easter eggs to hand out before Saturdays game.

    Perhaps these eggs were donated? Maybe that’s a small way that a local newsagent (or whoever) decided to contribute to the Club this week.

    in reply to: Club accounts. #301290
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    … There was understandable vitriol near the end of his tenure after he stopped paying wages and tried to move us to Gainsborough. Everything before that was justified criticisms and concerns.

    Completely agree with this.

    in reply to: £20 to listen to paint drying #301283
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    There were people at the ground on Saturday handing out flyers for other ‘talk nights’ coming up down at Glanford Park. I think ‘Anfield Legends’ was one, and Andy Cole was the other. Like the motorbike nights, these things are not to everyone’s tastes – but why should they be? Why would every event put on have to appeal to the lowest common denominator? Why, if it’s not to your particular taste, slag it off? As long as the Club makes money on these things then that’s fair enough.

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    in reply to: Club accounts. #301281
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    Do we think the accounts will actually surface today? If there’s anything contentious in there, and bearing in mind last week’s drama, won’t the tactic be to wait until after season’s end? There’ll be a small financial hit for late filing – £375 for between a month and three months late, etc…

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    in reply to: Gareth, Stuart and Jerry, your time is nigh #301151
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    I think the Board members are probably quite surprised that goodwill appears to have dropped off a cliff, and that the party line is being questioned. Their request for some ‘fan reps’ suggests to me that, partly, they’ve thrown their hands up in the air in frustration this week at their plan being impeded. It’s feels a bit like desperation, like they’re saying “Right, if you know how it shouldn’t be done, give us YOUR ideas on how it should, then!”

    They should be talking to the Trust.

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    in reply to: Smoking Ban #301140
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    Just like Scunny’s version of the MAGA Crowd storming the White House

    MUGA

    in reply to: Gareth, Stuart and Jerry, your time is nigh #301095
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    We’re making a mistake limiting it to three people too.

    I suppose a line has to be drawn somewhere.

    in reply to: CEO #301094
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    Also gone through two hospitality managers and now outsourced to Henry’s, Smoking Goat, Brad’s and the Little Cake Company – the last two replacing goatboy. Get a grip Iron

    To be fair to them, they are trying to.

    in reply to: Gareth, Stuart and Jerry, your time is nigh #301089
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    It shouldn’t be rushed. Get the process right and the right people, and it could be a huge positive. Rush it or make it a popularity contest, and it’ll go the same way everything else like this goes.

    Have to agree with this. It absolutely has to be done properly, with the right people. As much as we trust Michelle and co, this should not be allowed to dissolve into some cosy cuppa and biscuits half-hearted gesture on the Club’s part nor some yes-man nothingness and nonsense from the supporters.

    That’s why it should definitely go through the Trust, and why everyone who can join should join. The supporters should unionise, in other words.

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    in reply to: Southport #301072
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    I agree. As I said elsewhere I think he’s probably already played his last game for United.

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    in reply to: Trust in the Trust #300988
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    I don’t think the club has trust in the Trust – otherwise why go for this latest, hastily put together, Chat GPT-generated gimmick.

    Certainly looks like there’s not enough respect been shown, here. Surely the Iron Trust should automatically have a seat at the table (regardless of any other fan-engagement drive by the Club)? The Trust is the only serious fan-led organisation, and also a shareholder – and actively working towards acquiring more. The organisation should have a part to play in how United develops and is owned and run in the future.

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    in reply to: Trust in the Trust #300979
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    I’d rather have a stable club than one that overshoots and folds.

    As I’ve said before, on another thread somewhere lost in time, there’s a case here that can be argued: Everyone involved is currently in the denial stage during the process of accepting we’re playing at our proper level (this division and the one above).

    in reply to: Gareth, Stuart and Jerry, your time is nigh #300962
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    Why

    Why not?

    in reply to: Gareth, Stuart and Jerry, your time is nigh #300926
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    I’d tend to agree with that.

    in reply to: IRONY in HARMONY, UNITY GOONS #300923
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    A bit of “you started it” then? That takes me back a good few years

    There’s definitely that but there’s also a sort of wilful prejudice – it’s convenient to blame Bru and those who sail on her for the ill feels around United. However, Iron Hour get a free pass for Hilton and 100Kgate. It beggars belief, really.

    in reply to: Gareth, Stuart and Jerry, your time is nigh #300918
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    Reactionary – but, better late than never.
    Credit to them.

    Agreed. Rather than cynicism and slagging it off, it should be viewed as a massive opportunity for the supporters. Whoever does it is going to have to have a very strong stomach for it though, as they’ll get ripped to shreds whatever they do.

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    in reply to: CEO #300905
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    What has Mr Roberts brought to the table since his arrival then?

    – Stadium weekender/Tom Zanetti
    – FC100000
    – Bad vibes (allegedly)

    Anything else?

    We can add two motorbike nights to the list, as a second one has just been announced.

    in reply to: Southport #300896
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    They’re looking more subsidy to move onto this green steel proposal that’s how it reads to me.

    That’s what it looks like to me, too. A bit of (very strong) bullying going on over increasing subsidies.

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    Is it actually going to close in June or is this a tactical gun to the government’s head by Jingye?

    in reply to: Trust in the board? #300877
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    Personally I trust that they have the best interests of the Club at heart, but they are definitely going to make mistakes and misjudgements. This week has left a slightly bitter taste. I suspect there is quite a bit more to all this, and that the official statement and radio interview were designed to shut things down and regain the perception of a united front.

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    Could be that he has played his last game for us and expectations are being carefully managed.

    Maybe a deal done (in principle) already and the ‘new’ club wanting their investment protected?

    I can’t see Butler or anyone else at the Club sanctioning this.