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Mr Wharton was far too successful for a man with limited resources who only ran the club as a hobby. How could a man with probably three times his wealth, with an astute business plan behind him and the acumen to run the club more professionally ever hope to equal or even beat the success of Mr Wharton.
I don’t think so regarding personal wealth. You forget where the family fortune was based, it was not sold cheaply.
And I believe the Swann resources are from the wife’s side.
Put it this way. We don’t need a finance manager as we don’t have any finances. That’s because SWANN has spent them all and taken our assets and ground as payment for spending them too. Talk about a double whammy!!!!!!!
But Peter isn’t leaving yet. He can’t because he made a promise. His promise was that when he did leave the club would be better financially than when he arrived. As yet it is a tad !!! off that.
So it will happen because when has he ever misled anyone ? And the nice thing is he omitted a date that it would happen so get ready for ‘a land of milk and honey’
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The worst day ever in Scunthorpe United’s history when him and his family stepped into our Club. We never believed a word he said from day one.
I gave him the benefit as I do in all managerial situations at Scunthorpe United. Then it goes one of 2 ways. That 1st Fans Forum because shareholders no longer had a say gave an indication of attitude by the owner and his own Mr Man !! James Rodwell to his opinion of the fans.
Gradually you saw what was coming and here we are.
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Don’t believe anything in writing !
How many statements has he made and how many have come true ?
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Went from match winning football built on 442 to the tip-tap over complicated 352 that yielded negativity at every turn. With the ultimate insults of 1 up top at home !! and then setting up to deal with opponents and targeting.
Never understood and never explained.
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Said good appointment at the time, hoped we got back to basics quickly and with a near 442 line up.
Didn’t happen, enough games were available but targeting seemed evident and managed to throw that away.
Why has my opinion on the manager changed. A player on loan was caught spitting at another player, get a 6 match ban and should have been sent back to his parent club – don’t care at which level. The decision was made to retain his services !! Sets a shocking example. Should have gone.
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Was talking to an old supporter on sunday (ill health prevents him going now) was a 20+ years season ticket holder.
He said “Obviously going down but where will we stop” !! Even he can see the signs.
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And now Tuesday and Scunthorpe United have still made no official comment/statement.
The only comment was by Simon Elliott where he commended the maturity of Mason O’Malley in mot getting involved.
Apparently it’s breaking the rules Ferrite but then again so is lobbing flares, they had a go at both on Saturday.
Ok, when did football fans become so keen on rigid enforcement of rules?
Seems it happened against Oldham, now Rochdale and if the referee has reported it then the club could get fined !! So it does matter.
But it shows what interest there is down there now – none.
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In the past I have criticised Mr Wharton. But he has no responsibility for what we are witnessing now.
This is solely the responsibilty of Mr Peter Swann.
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Thought right man at last. Changed opinion when someone who is suspended for 6 games for spitting at an opponent is retained !
And immediately gets recalled !
Stability was needed from day 1 of Mr Hill. 442 and as settled a bench as possible. As injuries occurred then you change. I read players can’t string passes together – it is a basic for goodness sake.
So 1 up, 2nd half some infer that there is a lack of interest or effort. Then 1-1 and even when I went you knew what was coming and it did ! What is more disturbing was the managers post match comments. He seemed mildly irritated but was more upset with a missed foul !! I detect less passion every interview and everything is the fault of the embargo !!
It is not the embargo at fault ! It is the person who took it because all the stability in a club run as a hobby had been wasted and a professional operation hadn’t a clue !
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That’s because he sat everybody behind the ball and crossed his fingers that we robbed a flukey goal.
Cox is and will always be utter dog shit. This is the prat who has a squad full of players who couldn’t even press because he didn’t even work them hard enough to get them match fit.
Swann’s fault for keeping him on as long as he did. If we got Hill much earlier on, we’d be a lot better off than we are.
Last season was so bad. Certainly for home night matches the majority of the squad did not know if they were playing until they reported in that night !
90 mins before a game they were told the formation and the game plan. They never worked on a game plan in training because he didn’t know what he was going to do !!
He was clueless.
With ANY of his statements read it and read it again because it then becomes evident that it is what isn’t said that says the most.
He makes comments but there is never an actual date attached to that comment.
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Obviously based on his own statements there are 2 scenarios.
1/ He is still here because he hasn’t fulfilled what his statement said at the start of his tenure.
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2/ He has left the club. The club STILL owns the ground and surrounds and his statement from the 1st fans forum and subsequent statements will have been fulfilled.The statement/promise made was : When WE [owners] move on the club will be better off financially than when we arrived.
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Recall Cam Wilson from his loan and put him in.
Don’t understand why he isn’t in the squad, better than Hackney.
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His end of season statement could be a classic !
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Wonder if they hoped to get Flynn ex-newport. He has just signed for Walsall.
Financial Fair Play comes into operation next season I believe in the National League.
False dawn ? Well that started when Peter Swann got control, but that will be a recurring nightmare until he has gone.
15 games left – so get back to 442, back to basics and go for a win in EVERY game. Still think we aren’t and there is why we are continuing to fail !
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This is the IRON – you never know now that Keith is in.
You did if Cox had been there !
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Sanfran, Pugh played at left back last week at Spalding and was one of our better players albeit taking into account the level of the opposition (thought his red card at Spalding was also a bit harsh for what it’s worth)
I know you have a keen interest in the academy players, is Lobley currently injured? Always thought highly of him as someone who could make the step up, would he have made a better left back option last night?Bit different non-league to league. Dan Gallimore could do it and Harry Baker although Harry has only just got back from a long injury after surgery and he may still be on loan at Pickering. And we also have Fin Shrimpton but FB is for me a specialist role. Not been to see the academy for a while – self preservation.
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Not sure why Tom Pugh was at LB. Even in his academy days I don’t think he covered the position.
At the back more right sided but KH obviously has issues due to Mason being missing. Nice to read than Dan Gallimore did well, will follow orders if given and compete for everything.
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Club run by ‘Hobbyist’ – a professional operation and debt managed.
Club run by ‘Professional in entertainment industry’ !! – amateur operation.
I think a reasonable summation.
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The 2 yr Hallam deal summed up the reasons for the mess.
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He’s done all those things and should go but if he does go then our Club goes.
We are screwed on and off the pitch by himMany times he has said in forums and statements that when he left, the club will be better off financially than when he arrived. His words not mine or anyone else !
My goodness this is going to be good, bet the the word covid is in the excuse !
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Players can be deregistered so they can bring one into the squad. I think that was done to Lewis Butroid during the Cox tenure. Effectively on gardening leave or I do believe they can go into the national league.
But we would still have to stay within the EFL acceptable budget if we were looking at a free agent.
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Would like to think – Nuttall our new ‘Beckford’.
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Good searching Wondergoals.
With Bedeau going that way perhaps we have a link now with Burnley.
When people suggested things at previous forums all they got was ‘ they were fine, they knew what they were doing’ – they did, they ignored genuine people. Over the seasons this attitude was maintained and we are where we are -supporters at arms length.
Simon will do his utmost and is trusted but it takes longer than half a season to turn a rudderless ship. A total change would only happen if someone bought the club.
This is a tough gig and I applaud Simons work.
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No a free transfer is from one club to another without a fee being paid
The clue is in the name. A transfer that is free.
If released from contract then they become free agents. They release from roster so they can bring in their own recruits.
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