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The issue is not who comes in to do the job, it’s merely getting rid of the ringmaster (Schofield) and his puppet.
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4-6 games of more dire football, poor tactics, bad defence minded play and the long ball to our new striker.
Curzon pulling away similar to Tamworth last season, where JD did not have the metal or mental guile to challenge them despite our games in hand.
This team is playing worse and badly managed, Butler’s stubborn obsession with 5 across the back and lack of ability to focus on attacking football and worry about ‘setting up’ to thwart the opposition is killing us as a team and club. The latter the bigger worry.
4-6 games is 12-18 points and may be too much to make up. Also should we miraculously make the play-offs and even go up what can we look forward to next. Butler and Schofield are struggling at this level.
Talk to any fan and we ain’t happy.
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If the entire fan base is miffed by the formation Butler is playing why do you expect the players to be any different?
Most will have spent their entire football life playing 4-4-2 and are now expected to play a system they are both unused to and clearly incapable of playing.
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A 20 goal a season striker, started this season very well and working his socks off for the team. Seemed to go backwards at Chester and the silliness has crept back in.
Maybe if we kept the strikers busy and fed them more the tricks and shenanigans would stop.
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Just listened to Stan’s post match interview after Alfreton, he is focused on the opposition too much.
We must get better at changing from defence to attack! What a negative tosser, be positive and get on the attack all of the time, and worry about getting better at turning attack into defence.
With only one shot on goal and a rabble formation something does need to change and it’s you, Butler.
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So he hasn’t ‘got to go’ now then? He must be relieved. Why do you imagine he’ll be taking any pointers from you after you started this thread?
To be clear, though I agree it came across wrong the ‘pointers’ were from a great many people on here who know their football.
We should maybe investigate the 360° u turn and arrogance of dogged belief in a useless, crap, unentertaining system which after two abysmal home displays has suddenly gone!!
Someone is taking notice and if you believe it’s AB and JS you must believe in the tooth fairy, Santa Claus and fairies.
The only change in a week is LT but that’s not the reason, it’s the people who made the decision on both LT and the playing system who obviously know football and care about the club.
At last, dropped the ineffective back 5 formation and the team played a lot better today at Leamington.
Brogan was starman for me, and they all put a shift in.
Only negative point, their right full back had too much ball and too much space, which tells you that we are unbalanced on the left hand side.
Keep reading Andy for more pointers
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It’s wet and windy here in Leamington, talking to a few Lemmings they know all about our dip in form and the reasons why!
They already know about our unpopular manager and his even more unpopular tactics.
I expect defeat today, and at best 1-1 draw. Hope I am ####### wrong.
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When AB was a player he showed absolutely no loyalty to the Iron by moving clubs despite being offered a similar contract.
Loyalty works both ways Andy, bye.
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You have just doubled it Les by asking twice!
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The boards great work in saving the club, bringing back the feel good factor, actually playing some football and being entertained is being undone single handedly by Bulter.
The tide of goodwill that you could once surf on has diminished to such an extent it will barely wash away a trodden down sandcastle
Schofield is part of the problem and must go too.
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2-1 down made substitutions and still played 5 across the back!!!!
Two players shone today Beck and Brogan the latter was our most creative player.
So you have a duel footed fullback in Kelly, and your most creative midfielder Brogan, so who would you put to fullback to maintain your 5 across the back?
Yes of course Andy, the answer is Kelly, you eventually got there and put Brogan back to midfield, after creating nothing for the 20 minutes he was at fullback.
You are hapless, floundering and well out of your depth.
Bye.
ABs post match interview kept going on about and reinforcing the system he plays.
If the system is so good why does he need to do that?
Buxton played three across the back extremely well, they didn’t crowd the defence or midfield with two wingbacks as ABs useless system does.
We are now at a precarious 4th with teams around us in better form and similar on points.
I have no faith in AB turning things around and we will be lucky to scrape into the playoffs at the current rate.
So how long do we persist before a managerial change is inevitable even to those in a position to do something about it.
Any new manager (and I do not want Schofield) would need time to settle, influence and turn things around.
Where is that point in the playing calender? It’s Christmas at the latest for me.
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FITZSIMMONS
KOOGAN. EVANS. NICOLSON
BARROWS. DENTON
CLUNAN(ROBERTS) (ROBERTS). (ROBERTS)
WHITEHALL
This is what I can see every game, where it goes wrong for me is structure in Midfield when Roberts (easily this season’s best player) in a free role moves from the right hand side.
The rest of the midfield then becomes lost and ineffective.
That’s why I am an advocate of 4-4-2 with Roberts up-front alongside Whitehall. Or Roberts right hand side of midfield and Carlton up top.
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Butler does need to learn, but there are no signs that he is.
I haven’t spoken to a single fan who likes the team set up, and the fact that we play it very badly.
Now we are reliant on other teams losing to remain top, and some are worrying about the threat Buxton pose with their ‘game play’.
Sorry, but if we have an attacking style which is relentless and are on the front foot from the onset. Teams will be worrying about us, not the other way round.
Up the Iron
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I could not agree more Sharp_Shooter.
The poor on field activity is over-shadowing the good off-field activity at our club.
We have gone from a nine point lead to precariously perched on goal difference.
The clubs strengths you point out are being undermined by poor and negative management.
As another poster said “we don’t want to change the management but we want change from the management.”
But it won’t be long the rumblings are beginning.
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We were nine points clear. Threw two points away by being needlessly negative v Oxford, another two last week at Chester by not attacking once. Two away v Chorley from a late goal when winning to draw. Three v Scarborough who were very poor.
We are too negative by playing 5 across the back, which leaves us short I’m midfield or upfront.
Quite frankly this division is very poor and if we played to win each week we probably would.
Come on Andy play positive not negative when setting up the team.
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Publicly thanked by Tahina on Radio Humberside, she also wants to give her CIC shares to the Trust!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0j4yl3n?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile
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I have no idea what if anything has gone on behind the scenes, but the club is in good hands with the four shareholding directors whom I fully support.
For the record Simon built up a relationship with WHAM to try to limit the damage inflicted on our beloved club.
He worked behind the scenes with a lot of other people to resurrect our club and spent a lot of time and effort doing so.
I hope that Simon has not left the board on bad terms and is still a major player in the fortunes of Scunthorpe United FC in the future.
The club is in a totally better place than it was under Ernest or WHAM but there is still a long way to go before the club can return to League football and we need people like Simon around to make that happen.
I will point to the global companies who have sponsored us due to Simon’s connections primarily in the motor industry as one positive example.
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Well said f row, all the fan royalty of SUFC were there including the Iron Trust, Winterton Iron and the Official Supporters Club.
Great turn out from the club including Russ Wilcox, Brian Laws, Cliff Bryne, Lee Turnbull, Steve Davy and Rick Green.
Quite humbling really a good send off for a good man.
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