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A good debate on football, makes a welcome change from catering!
Well done to all taking part.
Clunan is not the problem for me, he is often alone in central midfield and when I look for an outlet when he is on the ball, I can’t see a forward one. Hence the far too regular passback.
It’s the structure again, with four midfielders Clunan would/should have two/three midfield outlets and dare I suggest an option to play forward balls into the channels.
Fitzsimmons is a first class keeper, all four centre halves are good and I would be happy with any of the four in any combination of two, with Barrows and Denton as fullbacks.
Brogan does look good but he tends to play alongside Clunan and fills the gaps created by Beestin and Scales, the latter was a revelation last season with his energy and running, because of the deficiency in midfield numbers, he has to do far too much work and I don’t think he knows where he needs to do that work.
Whitehall is a 20+ season striker and worth his weight in gold, when we feed him and he is in work mode, but he needs a foil alongside him.
Roberts is pure class with a footballers brain and I’d be happy with him upfront or wide right.
It’s great having all these opinions though cos there is only one that counts!!!!!
FITZSIMMONS
KOOGAN. EVANS. NICOLSON
BARROWS. DENTON
CLUNAN(ROBERTS) (ROBERTS). (ROBERTS)
WHITEHALL
This is what I can see every game, where it goes wrong for me is structure in Midfield when Roberts (easily this season’s best player) in a free role moves from the right hand side.
The rest of the midfield then becomes lost and ineffective.
That’s why I am an advocate of 4-4-2 with Roberts up-front alongside Whitehall. Or Roberts right hand side of midfield and Carlton up top.
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Butler does need to learn, but there are no signs that he is.
I haven’t spoken to a single fan who likes the team set up, and the fact that we play it very badly.
Now we are reliant on other teams losing to remain top, and some are worrying about the threat Buxton pose with their ‘game play’.
Sorry, but if we have an attacking style which is relentless and are on the front foot from the onset. Teams will be worrying about us, not the other way round.
Up the Iron
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I could not agree more Sharp_Shooter.
The poor on field activity is over-shadowing the good off-field activity at our club.
We have gone from a nine point lead to precariously perched on goal difference.
The clubs strengths you point out are being undermined by poor and negative management.
As another poster said “we don’t want to change the management but we want change from the management.”
But it won’t be long the rumblings are beginning.
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He will, his long throw is keeping him in the team.
Fantastic. Can someone let Gus the Gorilla know he can join the team, since the only prerequisite is some long arms and a decent throw?
I hope this Gus is not another defender and certainly not a centre half?
Maybe Trinity’s system suits him, how would he fare in our team with the emphasis on defence?
I often watch Trinity and this lad plays alone upfront, often creating his own chances prior to finishing them.
He is worth a punt, and we could then play all four centre halves plus two full backs!
I did not mention Southport at all, merely the now eroded nine point cushion!
Southport were utterly rubbish first half and we should have been 2-0 up from Kian Scales effort.
What worries me is we ceased to be an attacking force when 3-2 down and we never had one shot in 7 injury time minutes.
The only plus was taking a defender off to drop the 5 across the back.
We were nine points clear. Threw two points away by being needlessly negative v Oxford, another two last week at Chester by not attacking once. Two away v Chorley from a late goal when winning to draw. Three v Scarborough who were very poor.
We are too negative by playing 5 across the back, which leaves us short I’m midfield or upfront.
Quite frankly this division is very poor and if we played to win each week we probably would.
Come on Andy play positive not negative when setting up the team.
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Publicly thanked by Tahina on Radio Humberside, she also wants to give her CIC shares to the Trust!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0j4yl3n?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile
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Apollo there are aspects to Mr E which you point out that I would agree with whole heartedly.
Please don’t let that cloud your ability to see the whole picture of what went on behind the scenes to save our club.
Up the Iron.
Definitely not Simon or a statement from or on behalf of Simon, merely a concerned Iron supporter who worked closely behind the scenes with Simon and others long long before WHAM, was publicly exposed and derided.
The work that was undertaken then paved the way for a relatively quick takeover of the actual club. With plans afoot to secure the ground at a later date.
I knew it would attract some negative comments by posting an alternative view but I have never been afraid to hold my own opinion even if it does ebb against the tide.
To this day some people still do not know how toxic WHAM was. Nor do they know that FA intervention caused the ‘No longer funding statement’ prior to the Brackley FA cup away replay.
I have no idea what if anything has gone on behind the scenes, but the club is in good hands with the four shareholding directors whom I fully support.
For the record Simon built up a relationship with WHAM to try to limit the damage inflicted on our beloved club.
He worked behind the scenes with a lot of other people to resurrect our club and spent a lot of time and effort doing so.
I hope that Simon has not left the board on bad terms and is still a major player in the fortunes of Scunthorpe United FC in the future.
The club is in a totally better place than it was under Ernest or WHAM but there is still a long way to go before the club can return to League football and we need people like Simon around to make that happen.
I will point to the global companies who have sponsored us due to Simon’s connections primarily in the motor industry as one positive example.
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Well said f row, all the fan royalty of SUFC were there including the Iron Trust, Winterton Iron and the Official Supporters Club.
Great turn out from the club including Russ Wilcox, Brian Laws, Cliff Bryne, Lee Turnbull, Steve Davy and Rick Green.
Quite humbling really a good send off for a good man.
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RIP Staffy, a great bloke and friend.
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Why did the club agree to play the match when your main 14 goal striker is just coming back from suspension?
Then to not start with Whitehall was absolute madness.
Wilson was merely pushed around all second half and Beestin was heavy legged and completely lost.
Siembe Ferris would have been a better starting option as he kept getting behind the Tamworth defence, with more time in the game that may have paid off.
Taking Elliot off was another baffling decision. I also agree that our style needs twerking as the midfield lacks bite.
Moving to 3 up front away at Farsley with Whitehall, Elliot and Roberts up top was a massive positive.
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Yep still scarred by the Wilcox era, of trying to defend a slim lead and bringing defenders on in central midfield for the last few minutes and conceding.
We finished second instead of champions that season!
A great debate and some first class points of view, all relevant and well made.
There are no poor teams in this division, they all have very tall, strong defences and are quick on the counter attack.
We need to keep attacking and retain a capable strike force until the final whistle.
Hopefully the footballing brains at the club will be pointing this out to Mr Deans.
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Missed him v Boston, a target man who leads the line. Quite like Whitehall, Elliot and Roberts as a front three.
Lincoln City have been quite cute, there are fines for refusing to enter or fielding a weakened team.
Play an ineligible player and get kicked out free of charge.
This post was not sponsored by Stapleton-Jackson number crunchers.
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Just waiting for North Lincolnshire Iron to bless the move I hear.
Any property solicitors will tell you a ransom strip in the absence of an owner is easily dealt with.
Time for some hard questions Iron Faithful all the rumour, bad publicity , debt tales and stories can easily put to bed
Just pay the £3 million Mr H and let’s be done with Swann, put the rumours to bed, and own the ground as well as the club.
Not big enough though I agree they are good facilities.
Fantastic 2700 Iron fans turned up to watch v Woking, considering what has been served up for the last few years and the current state of affairs.
It’s a privilege to stand/sit with you all.
Two different but very reliable sources. For obvious reasons I cannot name them.
Talks have been held with Gainsborough Trinity about a possible ground share.
You would like to think so!
But should Ernest not sell, and it’s nearly a year or so since he put the club up for sale and having turned down offers already does anybody believe he actually wants to sell.
So a nice tidy formality, fails to sell, liquidates and the next day the bulldozers move in, because the planning was just that a formality.
Sorry but the club and fans have been stung once too often for something just to be a formality as far as Ernest is concerned.
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It’s a timing issue.
In the week the club recieved a winding up order from HMRC, the owner who wants out puts in for planning to develope the assets which he is actually trying to sell.
Any new owners might want a different type of development altogether.
At 73 he deserves his nap.
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I am not sure if that’s praise or not!
I am sure it warmed Ernest to the core! Can anyone shed some light on this?
I wished I had a ‘pot to piss in’ to make a bid.
Yes the bookies do know something we don’t, that’s why they always win and the “mug punters” lose.
Heard recently about a real mug losing millions and not even knowing he had even placed the bets.
I bet when he learned of this folly he took off faster than an Apollo space rocket.
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