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  • in reply to: Oh no he isn’t….. #234270
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    i was pleased when Hill came on board .. he offered hope ..but in reality he has just joined the list of really crap managers the club have had in recent years … i was a fan of Laws , Adkins and Alexander ..all else have been dross, statts n records dont lie and Hill, Coxs’ are the poorest hence we are going out the football league and make no mistake it could be for decades …worse still into admin and out of business.

    A generation or two may never see the Iron play in the league again .. thats very sad

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    in reply to: Scunthorpe v Harrowgate #234269
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    3 things you can bet your bottom dollar on

    Scunny loose … thats the norm now
    Wont score (should of been at least 1 up before they scored)
    Hackney gets booked (all be it he was our best player yesterday (not a difficult task to achieve)

    As previously mentioned with other results going our way over the last week or two it could have been a very different table if we could have mustered a win or two built some confidence and shown some fight n desire to stay up …alas none of these were remotely offered and going down looking un interested , dejected and more sadly with a whimper.

    My worry now is the club will go out of business totally and with recent board room goings on its becoming a real possibility.

    oh we are singing PLEASE GET SWAN OUT.

    in reply to: The Supercomputer says…. #234163
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    Based on the previous seasons crap , Swan letting all the players go )due to covid) and Cox at the wheel i had us nailed on for the drop before a ball was kicked and had a small wager on it .. sad to say it will be paying out and a few mates n i will drink the winnings at a small wake we have planned .. back then i was of the opinion Stevenage Sutton and Barrow would also be in the relegation mix (not Oldham)..Sutton have surprised me.

    It was very sadly as predictable as the stink of fish in Grimesby this was on the cards…

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    in reply to: Brizzle Away #234162
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    may make a small suggestion … any one attending both the last home or away fixture should wear black clothing and or black arm bands, this would send a message to SWann as it appears hes taking this event rather well like the death of a pet rabbit (not that he gives a shit its just how to grab the asset money now)..a small and easy thing to do ..if every turned up in respectful black its a sign of fan solidarity against the owners.
    im currently overseas and will don my funeral attire for both fixtures as IMO this relegation is the demise of the club ive supported since i was 10 years old.

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    in reply to: Record breakers #234043
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    I’ve been trying to find any teams which were worse than our lot in this division. I’ve gone back 60 years and I can only find a couple of teams which were worse than our current points table.

    20 Doncaster 97/98
    23 Workington 76/77*
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    24 Us – with 8 games left
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    25 Newport 87/88
    25 Bradford PA 68/69
    27 Crewe 81/82
    28 Southport 76/77* – this is the only side I’ve found which won fewer than 4 games.
    28 Workington 75/76*
    29 Torquay 95/96
    29 Barrow 70/71*
    29 Bradford PA 69/70*

    * Adjusted for 3 points for a win

    What is perhaps most alarming about this list is what happened to a number of clubs on this list after leaving the Football League.

    Southport, Bradford PA, Barrow & Workington all disappeared from the Football League around the time of these record low seasons and only Barrow have recently come back. Newport went bankrupt the season after being relegated and Doncaster barely survived. Torquay yo-yo’d for a decade or two and have been out of the league for nearly a decade.

    The moral of this story is that a team this bad doesn’t tend to bounce back quickly. We’re currently on course for 29. Are we destined to become another Bradford PA or Southport, a name remembered only in Football League history?

    Sobering analysis.. the future most certainly is not bright regardless of how many time MR Hill feels the need to tell us how the club is restructuring and rebuilding for it. LOB imo

    in reply to: Absentee Landlord #234042
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    pretty dam accurately

    in reply to: I think we will struggle in the national league #233976
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    National League North will likely be our destination in 23/24 season.

    sadly a real and distinct possibility….

    Question … if we had played this squad in the NL this season where do you think we would of finished ?? , i suggest NOT top half of table more likely bottom half just scrapping it to avoid relegation.

    in reply to: So. Who To Keep? #233975
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    I’d seen Grant listed as one of the 6 loanees but seems he was actually signed permanently. So the loanees would be:

    Delaney
    Matheson
    Sinclair
    Hackney
    Pyke
    Burns

    Not going to miss many of them, although I think Sinclair would possibly offer something in the Conference.

    Out of the loanees listed above i would keep Delaney Burns and Sinclair the others i will pay for the taxi.
    IMO Delaney is the only one i think may stay and play in the NL.

    I would like to think things cant get any worse ..but im afraid they can and probably will while Swann is still involved .. a tough season in the NL is looming for sure

    in reply to: It’s time to step up Peter Swann #233974
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    Who would want to buy us for the price Swann will want?

    The share value of the club when he took over was, I believe, around £1m – and of course the club owned their own ground.

    Whilst the shares themselves are worthless Swann made a series of share issues that he himself took up – notionally placing the share value of the club at several millions of pounds.

    Having now hived off the ground (and ascribing a notional value of around £11m to it) it seems to me that Mr Swann will be seeking offers in the region of 8 figures – certainly if any prospective purchaser wants to take the ground back rather than being left with Swann as the landlord.

    This also nearly recoups most of the money he squandered at the clubs expense of course.

    For this hefty investment you will get a loss making entity, on an unprecedented downward spiral, with no playing squad worth talking about and a stadium that is falling down.

    Besides that, you’d have the issue of having to totally reorganise the off field structure of the club – unless you were happy with the current chief scout et al.

    Whilst I’m sure there must be a kind hearted simpleton out there who also happens to be a multi millionaire I’d be surprised if he came knocking on our door anytime soon because he’s probably under lock and key for his own safety.

    The reality is that either by incompetence or design, Swann seems to have managed to make us totally unsaleable – unless he is simply prepared to give the club and ground away of course for next to nothing – which seems even more unlikely than the kind hearted simpleton scenario described above.

    I would go with just about all that … Swann has most definately made the club as a business entity more or less worthless and ny on impossible to sell.
    A devout Scunny fan needs to win the Euro millions or a consortium of business people …anything to get Swann gone.
    the football is embarassingly bad worse still is the apparent lack of fight n desire to even try to win a game .. Nuttal is only one goal off being the seasons top scorer i believe thats a shambolic stat.

    Gareths ironarmy YT vlog made for painful viewing except for the magnificent away support , so well done to all that went to Salford.

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    in reply to: Salford v Scunny #233869
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    Well same as once again, 20 mins to go and 3-1 down, this will be the 53rd match and only 4 wins during this pathetic period, there is no wonder that Swann is no longer gobbing off his bullshit, although we have had seven years of it, so no wonder he hides out of the way of the once 5,000 devoted supporters.

    Our club is ruined with Swann at the helm, we no longer have a league team, no decent players, no ground, no money and down to less than 2,000 fans who are still turning up in hope of some kind of change, but this will not happen when a club is run by a Chairman that has given up hope, and the only change will be that the club debt will be getting bigger each week, and administration must be getting nearer week by week.

    The past four years have been heart breaking for the once loyal fans that used to treck down to GP each week for years on end, for it all to end like this, for Christ sake Swann, we have had more than enough of your bullshit and management skills.

    WELL SAID .. when will we flush this turd away ..?? so fookin sad to see what our once half decent club was . now total n utter shite

    in reply to: You know how bad we are when……. #233868
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    SHAMBOLIC … Disgraceful for so called professional(s) to be so bad .. if a guy packing crisps at Walkers or a Chicken murderer at Premier poultry performed the same be out on his ear .. no pride , fight or spunk cant even do the basics .. this lot have zero respect for the shirt of club .. swan Hill players …… total and utter disgrace.

    TOTAL EMBARASSMENT AGAIN ..wtf

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    in reply to: So. Who To Keep? #233845
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    In an ideal world

    keep
    Warson (that wont ever happen he will leave)
    Grant (possibility)
    Delaney (unlikely)
    Rowe (possibility)
    Omally (possibility)
    AND ALL THE DECENT YOUNGSTERS .. Cribb , Wilson etc

    The rest due to being injury prone and / or crap can all go including paying off the likes of Hallam and KDT with Swanns relegation bonus.

    Agre with earlier post … a lot will boil down to who wants to stay .. fear not im sure this is all part of Mr Hills master plan of rebuilding for the future , that seems to be the current phrase being touted.

    Still wake up thinking this is all a bad dream …alas no

    UTI

    in reply to: Season tickets for the national league #233797
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    IMO depending how Scunny get on result and performance wise the attendances at GP (still refusing to call it TSVS) will vary from 1000 to 1600 allowing for the bigger clubs bringing a few in the away end…of course these numbers would increase dramatically if Swann was to leave.

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    in reply to: Rochdale #233684
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    Sorry that wasink to an oven 555555 about as much chance being sufc top scoer than most

    Heres the Rochdale link whicjh could keep.us up.if the epl.are in a bad mood

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/60763114

    in reply to: When you think it can’t get any worse #233647
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    slipping into footballing oblivion is a real possibility .. by that i mean a bad season in the NL league next year .. Swan puts us into admin and bosh we are done.

    Rumours of interested buyers are just that only rumours ..just waht is the club/business worth ..fookall without the land n ground.

    wer doomed ..doomed i say

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    in reply to: That simplifies things… #233644
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    cant see where another single win will happen …. we will not hit the 30 pt total ..

    in reply to: We all owe Neil Cox an apology #233642
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    Just because both Hill and Cox struggled at the club with the current owner, doesn’t mean Cox wasn’t doing a bad job. One may also speculate how bad things were before Hill came in after Cox in charge for a considerable length of time, perhaps leaving Hill with an impossible task under pressing circumstances.

    Yes agree .. leaving Cox at the helm so long was a huge mistake .. Hill came in and hasnt changed results but should be given a bit of leeway due to what he inherited and lets not forget hes working with a huge nail in his boot in Swan .. at least it appears he isnt a yes man same as Cox ..

    saying all above ..Hill may walk who knows especially if the club ownership changes.

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    in reply to: We are F**k**g useless #233636
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    another must win game slips by pointless … pointless being an appropriate word as it seems upon this terrible joke performance its pointless shelling out a tenna to go watch us whimper out of the football league.. well beaten by another bad side the scoreline should of been more emphatic than 1-0 .. yes another harsh red and a dikky ref but no excuses for SUFC matching up to the title of this thread.

    I wish the season could end now , alas a few more stabs n kicks to come before we can draw a line under what has been 2 disasterous seasons ..

    Sad to see Manny go .. a shock.

    Is Hill committed ??

    Will we win another game . score another goal this season ??

    Can some one please come forward n buy the club to get Swann gone.

    Lowest point in ny on 45 years following the Iron..sad sad times.

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    in reply to: Colchester game #233512
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    Rowe is the nearest thing to a competent right back at the club at least until Millen is fit. Should be playing there until Millen is back.

    Another 8 or 10 games and Matheson might show some promise but that is Wolves problem, not ours.

    Lewis is the nearest thing we have to a competent left back until O’Malley is fit. Delaney is a decent left side centre back and needs to play there. He is an average at best left back so playing him there weakens us in 2 positions.

    Onariase is our best right sided centre back. Not perfect but the best we have at least whilst we need to play Rowe at right back. Grant and Feeney have to play in midfield. Sinclair is now showing some attacking promise so play him. If Beeston is over his Covid problem then play him. Nuttall and Burns up front and there is our starting 11 until relegation is certain.

    Once we bow to the inevitable we should only play people that will be here next season plus the people we would like to be here next season. Fill the rest of the team with our promising youngsters that haven’t already been tapped up by bigger clubs.

    Tell the players they are playing for their pride and their future careers. Send the those who have not bought into getting fit and working hard on garden leave.

    It’s a simple game Keith, let’s get back to playing it that way. If that frees up a bit of time for you and your coaches you could start looking for the dozen or so players you will need to find to keep us in the National League next season.

    Above totally spot on .. it aint rocket science, im finding some of Hills selection and set up choices a bit iffy.. players playing out of position at random , maybe done to confuse the opponents, ITS NOT WORKING Keith
    Early tip for the next must win game … Scunny 1 Barrow 1

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    in reply to: Watson #233511
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    i reckon he will be on his toes n out the door lightening quick if a Championship , L1/2 club comes in for him… sad but hes got to move his career forward and that wont happen stuck at Scunny in the NL.

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    in reply to: Colchester game #233429
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    Just watched the highlights and agree with many previous comments ..blatant hand ball ignored by the ref for their equalizer..and a soft first yellow for Matheson.

    Its getting tedious loosing all the MUST WIN games… one of our own SCORED IN OPEN PLAY, just trying to claw a positive from thin air really.

    Say it again ..in numerous ways very strange selection and set up by Hill.

    Another must win v Barrow next followed by circa 9 more must wins until the curtain drops on 70 years plus of football league status and the distinct possibility of years before a return.

    Thanks Mr Swann ..great job NOT !!!!

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    in reply to: Colchester game #233386
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    Strange team selection n set up again from.mr Hill..

    Great go 1 up ..but gonna be a difficukt afternoon now as Matheson been sent off .. n things were going so well… a re jig needed for sure

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    in reply to: Another out on loan ! #233300
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    I think you are exaggerating for effect Ni. I do believe those 3 could probably keep us up.

    Pyke, Sinclair and Nuttall probably not. Hill obviously made the wrong calls in January.

    With them 3 i agree he probably did make dicky calls ..add Matheson , alas he was scrappng the very bottom of the barrel and something had to be seen to be happening to save us.

    Grant and Delaney seem to be the two brighter January arrivals in what is adark dark season in the clubs history.

    To think im finally due back in Blighty later this year covid permitting and after so many years i will be attending non league footy.. whodda thought that ??

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    in reply to: Team v Crawley #233151
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    I see John Yems took the result well again, said Crawley missed enough chances to win 10 games after his spat when we beat them at home.

    Unfortunately I think he’s right (apart from the slight exaggeration) We could probably have lost 4 or 5 nil.

    Agree ..watching the Crawley highlights a 4-1 scoreline as at Sutton would have been a fair outcome… crap in the first half .. slightly less crap in the second ..but still crap.
    I cant see where another goal is coming from never mind a win.. im not confident about beating Colchester at home this coming weekend..

    Well done the the ardent 80 plus loyal fans who went to Crawley.. just watched ironarmy YT vlog by Gareth and it was not pretty , even he is mega depressed as is young Ross the lad who seems to get to every game and give his prediction ( still to nail one though :) )

    Horrible times to be a Scunny fan ..NL may not be too bad if we can stay there n not drop out the other end, i most certainly cannot see a quick return to the big boys league anytime soon.

    UTI

    in reply to: When will be relegated? #233010
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    Think the first nails where hammered in last night! just can’t see us winning 3 more games this season let alone 3 more then the other teams around us.

    Think the coffin is more metal than wood now it’s had that many final nails hammered in.

    Yes no great escape here .. i could see us playing the rest of the season without a win with this mismatch and melting pot of youth “experience” and guys no one else wanted…

    OH WE AE SINGING PLEASE GIVE US A GOAL .. a song from the Old Show Ground days very apt for the 2022 debacle

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    in reply to: Is this the future? #233009
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    https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cost-consequences-yeovil-town-getting-2746045

    A distinct possibility after the results mid week ..tho really we are down already ..

    Maybe Swann thinks its better to be at the top of the NL then struggling in L2.. did he think that when we were in the Championship and L1 as well ..

    Whichever way you look at this we are fooked .. with this chairman things will never improve and im predicting many seasons in NL and even below that.

    SAD ..very sad BUT REALISTIC

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    in reply to: Sutton. #232912
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    Times must be bad seeing Gareths ironarmy yt vlog and even he is now giving the impression he is considering packing in (HOPE NOT)… seems like the traveling 313 Scunny faithful had a good day in the metropolis despite the crap football offered by their team…massive well done n kudos for those that traveled.
    Very poor performance ..going out the football league with a whimper ..will we win another game this season ?? .. will a Scunny player score ??
    sad sad desperate times.

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    in reply to: Hill #232527
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    I think the jury has to be still out on Hill re the results and what he s getting out of the group… im not knocking his past achievements and experience but some of his tactical and line up choices seem a bit strange.
    Scrapping the bottom of the barrel in the Jan transfer window was always going to happen and signings showed that.. but something had to be seen to be done as signing no players would not give Swan the escape route of ..””we did our best”” .. , i can here him now blaming covid , the fans in fact everything other than the real cause of our demise ..ie HIM AND HIS GREED plus PISS POOR BUSINESS ACUMEN.
    The guys i chat to in Scunny who attend home matches confirm the codheads rant re the ground etc is pretty accurate as is the distinct possibility of only staying in the NL one season and being relegated from there..

    Dark dark times indeed

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    in reply to: When will the drop come? #232121
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    The drop came when Cox was kept on at the end of last season

    Yes keeping that tool in the shed too long cost us ..

    I pinned Mid March as being mathematically down .. teams around us , well more accurately above us all seam to be playing better and scoring goals ..something we still cant do even after the January sales where it appears we may have picked up a couple of faulty items.

    Grant Delaney happy with
    Feeney ok
    Nuttal Burns Pyke jury still out
    Sinclair not impressed as much as i thought he would
    Matheson .. return for refund

    Kieth Hill .. some of his team selections are a tas strange but keeping the faith as he inherited such a shit in a basket.

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    in reply to: Event Horizon #232120
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    NL is bad enough , NLN a further tragedy further more do a Bury into oblivion n out of exsistance totally !!

    Swann makes my piss boil destroyed our club and doesnt give a toss.

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