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I hope to god you get banned off this forum, you’re a complete moron. Is your life so boring that you have to constantly post about Hilton ?
Look, we all have doubts but wait for the deadline to come around, may 24th and just see if the deal is fully completed. If it isn’t completed and something seems off then you can put your armchair detective cape back on and resume your investigation into Hilton.
Until then I suggest you cut it out. I’m not sure what you’re trying to achieve here.
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Look it’s the 3 club stooges, no doubt reverting back to type and taking swipes at fans.
Iron awe, Cliff and Awaywego, you’re an odd bunch, aren’t you ?
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I remember Joe Lolley we had on loan who hardly got game time went back to championship and for 2 or 3 seasons was a top performer at that level.
Goode left us for a nominal amount and was sold for 1mill. Wootton has scored 14/15 goals this season at lg 2 for Stockport and a load before that for Notts County. Godden has done well at championship level.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the same happened with Poulter. No doubt we’ve had talent but just not nurtured them correctly. They show talent but there tends be a breakdown in between the talent and them transferring it to the pitch.
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Can’t you seriously give it a rest with this bullshit ?. I’m wary and remain sceptical until the deal is fully completed and it’s in Hilton’s hands but all this armchair detective investigation work is taking it too far.
Taking him on face value if he has every intention of fully completing the takeover, is all this rubbish by Interested Bystander going to want him to even complete it ?
I suggest you wait until may24th to see if the deal goes through and then if it doesn’t for whatever reason you can speculate all you like but don’t be doing it now !
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However they did not have a player embargo or the threat of closure to contend with
Player embargo was dissolved within a week of him in being in charge. There’s no excuse, 5 points from safety is not already down.
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O god Good Ole Patrick is back again, no doubt they’re either a club stooge plant or a wind up merchant.
How is expecting a new manager to come in to choose a formation to suit his players and to play some cohesive football toxic ?
All people have done is point out that since Dean has come in we’re currently 2nd from bottom in the league form table, playing awful football in an awful formation.
Is stating facts toxic now ?
What fans supposed to do, all lie to each other and be in utter denial ?.
Is that what counts as non toxic in your eyes, Patrick ?
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believe there is just a lack of patience with some clamouring for Deans head, we have won games under him, the Wealdstone win was a really good all round performance but there has been a real lack of consistency overall
When this season is all but done he would have had 17 games which is plenty of time to come up with a formation that suits the players at your disposal and to play some cohesive football.
Nelson took 3/4 games to achieve that. 17 games isn’t that far off half a season. We had one performance against Wealdstone but apart from that it’s been awful. I posted the form table since Dean is in charge and taking into account another loss against Oldham, we’re currently second from bottom.
“we have been clinging to the wreckage of a broken club for five seasons and David Hilton or Jimmy Dean are not miracle workers”
Expecting a manager to come in to assess his players to mould them into a formation that suits them and get them playing half decent football is not expecting miracles.
I keep saying this but it took Nelson 3/4 games to assess the players he had and he came up with a formation and a system which suited them and we played some good football. There is no excuse and iron-awe needs to stop with this apologist’s bullshit, it doesn’t wash.
Nobody has said he’s had it easy but he knew what he was walking into and so did we, what we did expect though was a manager with some know how and ability to form them into a cohesive unit at the very least and he hasn’t even managed that. On the whole the choice of going with Dean has backfired.
Harsh reality is you can be an apologist all you like and fight Dean and Hilton’s corner but we’ve gotten worse even since Dean came in to replace Nelson. Nelson had much less to work with than Dean so cut the crap.
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Just because I said he was learning on the job
Problem is nobody has seen any evidence of that, as cassidy stated above, it’s the same mistakes and mindset game in game out. The decision to keep playing a formation that doesn’t suit the players is diobolical.
There is no way on planet earth it should take a manager 14 games to realise this and the punchline is that he still hasn’t. If Nelson can devise a system which suits the players in 3/4 games it shouldn’t take 14 games to pass without him realising that what he’s doing is not working.
Dean should have worked that out 6 or 7 games ago and the fact that he still hasn’t tells me he’s not learnt anything. How can a manager be learning on the job when they’re continually doing the same things that haven’t been working ?
I’ve seen the stats and didn’t exactly pull up any trees in NLN. I think he bottomed out there ability wise at that level and was truly found out at this one.
A manager should have more than one of playing, surely ?
I hope I’m wrong but I suspect I’m not. Dean will be signing all next seasons players with a view to playing the formation everybody hates, the dreaded 4/2/3/1 “the only one he knows”
I suspect we’ll have the same problem this coming season with turgid direct shitty football consisting of an isolated target man.
Even Dean might surprise us and come good in a years time
The way he’s been show up tactically, I wouldn’t hold your breath if I was you.
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Awaywego, you’re boring now. Dean isn’t very good due to being tactically inept. Plods forward with this one formation which doesn’t suit the current players, everybody else can see it hasn’t worked and yet he still keeps playing it.
You can tell the players don’t want to play for him.
Deans current managerial form
Last 28 matches in NLN won 10, Drawn 6 and lost 12, gaining 36 points with a points per match ratio of 1.29. So all in all “including this shit show while he’s been here.”
Dean has overseen 41 matches won 13, drawn 8 and lost 20 gathering 47 points. 47 points out of a potential 123 points.
The stats are there to prove it, he just isn’t very good. I suspect he found his managerial level at NLN. Even at NLN level he hardly pulled up any trees.
When Nelson was here we were 5 points from safety and now we’re 11 points from safety. We have declined ever since he took over from Nelson.
The stats don’t lie awaywego.
Today for instance when he toom Shrimpton off, rather than having a half a braincell and bringing shields on to put him left, Wilson on the right and moving Elliot next to Bennett, he leaves Elliot out wide and sticks an equally worse target man on so we end up with 2 shite lumps up front.
Please make that make sense. This is what you get with Dean and the fact he’s not learning is that he’s just not tactically minded.
GO GO GO GO GO GO GO !!!!
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Last 28 matches in NLN won 10, Drawn 6 and lost 12, gaining 36 points with a points per match ratio of 1.29. So all in all “including this shit show while he’s been here.”
Dean has overseen 41 matches won 13, drawn 8 and lost 20 gathering 47 points. 47 points out of a potential 123 points.
Wow.
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Further evidence as he didn’t do that great in NLN towards the back end of his time there. Peterborough sports have actually achieved better results since he came here.
https://twitter.com/MickDAllen/status/1644655425596293121/photo/1
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I’ve not seen nothing in Dean to make me believe he’s good enough WG but I believe he gets a fair crack of the whip that’s only fair. 13 games with the rabble he’s had is not fair.
Come the end of the season we’re talking 17 games which is not a lot off half a season. Most of these players are new players, not saying they’re the one’s he 100% wanted but they’re here.
Bennett is the calibre of striker he wanted here and he’s gash. Sembie Ferris has hardly had a kick. Elliot only track record of scoring and won’t alter tactics to get the best out of him.
I just think there’s enough evidence to suggest he hasn’t got everything he can out the players he’s got now. Would it be any different with a complete new fresh batch of players ?
Only danger is if he carries on to struggle after drafting in a full squad of his own players, to then have somebody else come in and work with what he’s signed.
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Needs to make a good start next season if not then he will go Hilton more or less said that as well,
Only problem is by then we’ll be back to square one as Dean will have already signed a whole host of HIS OWN players. I don’t think Dean will go but I’d like him to as do many others.
What have you seen in Dean to make you believe he’s good enough ?
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1 upfront as usual for the next 4 games so wouldn’t surprise me if we don’t score a goal again until next season. Dean is clearly incapable of fielding a positive line up/formation and is reluctant to budge in an attempt to get the best out of Elliot.
Honest to god, it wouldn’t surprise me if we didn’t score another goal this season. That’s how bad it is. Ever since Dean has come in we’ve gradually gotten worse.
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