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No idea but that was embarrassing from him today, absolute madness doing stuff like that.
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I don’t believe that. Once a complete sweep is done at the club of most of the playing staff and coaching staff “I include Dean and Plummer in with that” we will start to move forward.
I don’t believe we can’t be turned around but it will be a long process. We have to start with getting recruitment right and that’s not been the case now for 5+ seasons. Dean’s not up to it either.
I’d go for a Nelson and Cliff Byrne managerial side, have a clean sweep at the club and really try and pin down the characters and players with the right level of ability that we’re going to need.
Only then will we begin to move forward. I don’t believe we’re a complete lost cause though as there’s been other teams that have had to drop down to regroup and come back up.
I wouldn’t feel comfortable giving a clean slate and a sizeable budget to Dean though and I just don’t think he’s good enough.
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Coxy said there is nowt wrong with the training pitch and will be one of the best in non league north
It’s the lack of drainage which is the problem which means once it get’s hit by a fair amount of rainfall, the pitch becomes heavy and cuts up, resulting in training injuries.
The drainage down there is piss poor and that’s always been the case.
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Needs a complete change and yet when Hilton tried the baying mob wouldn’t have it.
Moving training isn’t going to rectify this. I’d move the lot in, including Dean and Plummer. Get Nelson back in to carry on to develop how he got the team playing in those last 3/4 matches of his stint as manager.
A club on the slide that sign a load of substandard players in a bid to stay up is bad enough but when you couple that with a manager who’s awful tactically who just won’t change things to get the best out of what he’s got, you’re basically fecked.
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I hate to say this, but I feel Dean is out of his depth. I have seen nothing that leads me to believe he can actually improve the performances, in fact I would go so far as to say he is actually making things worse.
I’ve said the same thing, Dean isn’t good enough and you can tell the players just won’t play for him. Thing with Dean that he isn’t grasping is that he’s still playing his preferred formation but he hasn’t got the players to play it.
Any manager worth his salt would have looked at the players and devised a plan and a system in which to get the best out of what they’ve got, whereas Dean just keeps with this one formation when it’s clear it just doesn’t work.
Elliot for instance isn’t a lone front man, everybody can see it and yet instead of him recognizing that he keeps with what clearly doesn’t work. Any manager with any tactical nous would think to themselves “this doesn’t work, I’ll change to two upfront to get the best out of Elliot” and yet it hasn’t even crossed his mind.
Let’s have it right, things have gotten worse since Nelson was replaced. Towards the end of Nelson’s time as manager, despite taking 3 or 4 games to come up with a plan and settle everything down, we were playing some really nice football with a clear style and we had an identity.
Dean’s come in and it’s been the one formation which for the most part doesn’t suit the players that are here, as a result we lack cohesion, identity and the players clearly don’t like playing the way he wants them to play or simply won’t play for him. All I know is that it’s not working.
I don’t think getting a completely new squad will change it either because Dean will still want to play the same way next season. The shape of the team just doesn’t work.
Look, we’re all but down anyway so why he didn’t just go 4/4/2 today with Carver and Elliot upfront or in fact any system with 2 upfront. I have never in all my life know of a manager who’s so averse to playing two upfront.
I’ve never seen anything like it. Gateshead fans on twitter are commenting that we’ve destroyed Elliot and York Fans last week said we were nuts for not starting him so he must have something about him, your talking about somebody who scored 7 in 9 games at this very same level.
Thing that worries me is that the current manager is that clueless or just plain stubborn that he flatly refuses to play with two upfront in a bid to get the best out of him.
I know the players are largely to blame as well but would you lot trust Dean with a sizeable budget to bring players in for next season playing the same formation ?
Baring in mind he really wanted Bennett and brought Sembie Ferris to the club who’s hardly played any minutes ?
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More like Carver will be up top as the lone striker and we’ll carry on playing conservative football. I think we may as well play with 4/4/2 though now we’re all but down.
Bennett is injured so carver will have to come in. I don’t think it’s exactly a downgrade though in all fairness as they’re both crap.
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The temporary lease is up shortly so it’s either pay up or move out!
I’m guessing the temporary lease finishes on the date he gave previously in which the takeover will be fully completed on, may 24th ?
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As long as Hilton buys the surrounding land and the rest of the assets by may 24th or whenever it is and puts forward clear plans as to a estimated time scale of when this training facility will be built then I won’t have a problem.
What I don’t want us to do is move train in Ilkeston and then for Hilton not to put plans forward and have any urgency to build a training facility locally. I hope this move to train over there is a just a stop gap and doesn’t become a permanent fixture.
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I’m sure Hilton said the players wages are only 30% of the total wage bill with the other 70% being spent on staff. How the hell can that be right ?
Many have said on here for years about the sheer amount of staff employed. This season right up until Hilton came in we had 4 staff on the books which we’re doing very particular roles “minor roles” , when in reality we just needed the one staff member to cover the four areas. That’s the problem we had.
To have such little spent on playing staff while shelling out all that on staff members was a joke. Even worse Rodwell in Swann’s tenure was being paid 200-300k wasn’t he ?
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That’s McAtee’s problem unfortunately, no doubt he has a lot of ability but got the impression he thinks he’s better than he is. I think that’s where complacency comes in to play where he’s concerned.
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Don’t you think think us training in Ilkeston is a bit dodgy ?. Unwavering support of Jimmy Dean, from what we’ve seen so far he’s useless.
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8 out of 11 of those players who started against Torquay are his players and he has the profile of striker he said himself he’s wanted since he’s been here. Dean needs to take responsibility because it’s not all the players fault.
Did they tell him to field that crap formation with one substandard lump upfront ?
Did they tell him not to use Elliot correctly, despite him being the only striker with any kind of track record ?
Did they tell him to be ultra negative in a bid to stay up ?
Did they tell him to constantly make shite substitutions which make no sense in the situation we’re in ?
Did they tell him to drop Shrimpton and Pugh after singing their praises for two players that aren’t even match fit ?Dean needs to look in the mirror and blame himself because he’s been utter tripe. To say he’s looked completely out of his depth is an understatement. That’s not me being unfair either, I’m just being honest.
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I don’t think he’s going anywhere, he need to though. I saw Hilton’s responses to fans questioning Dean a couples of weeks back and to say he was overly defensive is an understatement.
In so many words he said fans were unreasonable and gave various reasons why the teams form wasn’t great. Also threw into the mix all the promotions Dean’s had at his previous club, which still doesn’t cover up the fact that he’s not utilizing the squad properly, he’s far too negative and tactically inept.
No doubt us fans will get the blame for being too harsh on Dean and he’ll most likely get a complete blank canvas next season to allow him to play this one upfront bullshit with a shite target man.
Baring in mind 8 out of the 11 players fielded today are Deans players and the profile of striker he always said he wanted to come here from the day he arrived here is Bennett so make of that what you will !
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You can’t surely have a go at your own players and pin all the blame on them for not scoring when you’re choosing to field a formation with an isolated target man upfront who isn’t very good and choose to not really use a striker who hit 6 in 8 games at the previous club ?
No excuses. Dean is more to blame as he’s as negative as any manager we’ve had and he’s picking the team. Look, we’ve seen this all too often now he flatly refuses to change shape and brings a striker on for a striker even though we all know Elliot isn’t a target man, he never will be.
Dean needs to look in the mirror and take a brunt of the responsibility as he’s clearly not using what he’s got correctly. Throw into the mix he’s dumped Shrimpton and Pugh out who started to look really good and built up a good partnership for two players who aren’t home grown and won’t care about the club as much and more importantly aren’t even match fit.
There have been that many tactical faux pars from Dean that I daren’t sit down and list them all, I’d be still writing until the early hours. A lot of what he said was true about the slide we’ve been on but since he’s been here on the whole it’s gotten worse since he came in to replace Nelson and his negative attitude and woeful tactical decisions have been glaring obvious for quite a while.
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Lavery was definitely the one that got away, as soon as he left our season was pretty much finished.
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