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And he can’t blame Swann for the lack of clarity over council involvement either.
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We have no reason to believe either side of the story. We shouldn’t blindly trust Hilton because Swann failed and put as at risk.
” It’s not our money to criticise who’s doing what with their money.”
That’s what was said with Swann and look at what happened under him.
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I think the reality was we nearly didn’t have a club.
If we have to ground share then so be it. Or should we just hand over of fist pay up. Does that sit well with all?
The only positivity atm is we have a club and a fan base anything extra that comes our way is a bonus.
Buckle up because we are in for some turbulence how severe is an unknown.
There are a lot of assumptions over what is a reasonable valuation and we are only hearing on side of the story. I am yet to be convinced Hilton can afford a new stadium if he can’t afford GP, and I am not convinced that Swann is in the wrong over any negotiations falling apart.
He came in during January claiming ground and all had been saved, yet we’re supposed to be happy with potentially sharing a ground, while making no money off home games?
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Regardless of who is to blame for the situation, I am amazed at the positivity from some. The reality is we face a risk of being homeless and this new stadium won’t be ready for a while. Two years is wildly optimistic, and that’s assuming it doesn’t get hiccups or falls through like the last new ground plan.
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Yeah. I am hoping some of that Ilkeston feel good factor can arrive here. Hopefully soon, as we’ve had enough misery to last a lifetime.
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I think you are right Daz.
My own view is that if the previous owner comes out of it with a bloody nose and a lot less cash then that would be a bonus.
He may have picked a fight with the wrong man here.
Based on what? Hilton’s word? It all depends on what was agreed in January, and it could equally be Hilton violating that agreement.
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Equally, after the last experience, it’s imperative that we don’t blindly trust the new owner. Swann dangled us carrots and it never materialised, so it’s not illogical to wait until promises are met before we give due credit. If an owner cannot take questions about how their plans will be achieved and some fans not lining up to ignore such and place trust in him, then I question whether they would be a good owner. Businesses, sports clubs and all institutions fail because people are willing to go along with whatever the owner wants without questioning, either because of fear, embarrassment or blind trust.
What’s more, questioning doesn’t mean negativity. It’s too early for a full assessment of Hilton, but as fans we should expect queries over Hilton’s plans to be answered, not ignored because it’s easier to place trust and hope for the best. Also, bad ownership doesn’t necessarily mean malicious intent when sheer incompetence may be a factor.
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Hilton gave chapter and verse on what Swann has done (and not done) that has caused the issues. He stated the reason for the forum not being streamed or recorded was because he would not then have been able to fully clarify this without possibly giving Swann a lever to use against him.
Of course we will hear a very different story from Swann so it will come down to who you believe or who wins the dispute legally or otherwise.
Given one of the parties record as a bigger liar than Boris or Donald you can probably guess who I am inclined to believe.
Hilton gave a fairly comprehensive response to the rest of the recent hysterical character assassination also.
So it’s “he said, she said”? I keep seeing comments about how Swann screwed him over but nothing in what was actually done. I can’t possibly base any judgement based on this.
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sufc fans must be most deluded and gullible in the world he is playing you for fools ,
I am not hooting with joy until anything actually happens and still have questions. However, the promised ground share hasn’t (yet) happened. What happened there?
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Training pitches? I would have thought buying GP would make more sense than building a new ground here. Surely it’s cheaper, especially as this site will almost certainly need remediation.
In principle this is very welcome news if GP is not being purchased. Be interesting to hear how much it will cost and when he expects the club to move in and use. 12 months? 24 months?
If this comes off it could be a good solution, but we’ve been in this position before with promised new stadiums. Whether it hits the ground as suggested would be another matter, and the costs will be much higher than what Swann surely wants for GP. If Hilton is doing this because he can’t afford GP, then it seems mad. Even an over-inflated price by Swann plus needed upgrades to GP would surely be cheaper than a new stadium on a site which would need environmental remediation?
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Training pitches? I would have thought buying GP would make more sense than building a new ground here. Surely it’s cheaper, especially as this site will almost certainly need remediation.
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It is, but I do wonder what those who dismiss the ground share as rumour will do if it happens. Hopefully not pivoting to just assumptions it’s all Swann’s fault and no assessment of Hilton.
That said, ironinsider is staking a lot on this. If untrue it would be hard to regain credibility over Hilton claims. If true, it might be worth paying him more attention for those keen to dismiss.
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