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    seriously,what a shower, shameful charlatans .They are making it nearly impossible to vote labour for anyone with a social; conscience

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    If only Labour had someone who claimed the hand of Israel was behind ISIS terror attacks, attended vigils for terrorists, supported anti-Semitic art and called for Ukraine to give up and accept Russia to slaughter them. Then it would have a leader with conscience. ;-)

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    I had intended to do a timer on how long you were before trying to bring antisemitism into this, I said three posts in my mind. you won’t shut me down liek they try with everyone else by using the catch all lies .
    Today’s performance for labour was unforgivable

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    I mean it does make you lose all credibility when you talk of a conscientious stand against Starmer’s Labour, but sure.

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    Ha yes of course, like burying Ford .
    Trying to bury this now eh/ You’re sort are a joke, should we really accept today’s performance go unchallenged ?

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    a bit like labour’s two tier racism responses going unchallenged ,particualarly amuasing to hear a friend of Israel use the line when trying to smears the country’s most racially abused woman. Even this crazily Blairite channel is annoyed

    Apparently it’s not the right thing to do to vote against the elected government of the day,wow!

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    Ha yes of course, like burying Ford .
    Trying to bury this now eh/ You’re sort are a joke, should we really accept today’s performance go unchallenged ?

    Not really, your post was quite cryptic so I wasn’t engaging with a content devoid opening post. I was just pointing out that none of us ‘Blairites’ are going to take any lessons in conscience from ardent Corbyn fans on this given what they supported.

    As for this, Coaker made it quite clear he wasn’t going to oppose, since the Lords is an amending chamber, not for legislative or ideological disagreement, and that doing so would destroy precedent. Labour have criticised the government for playing fast with the rules, so they would be massive hypocrites for doing that, even if honourable. The consequences down the lune could be huge too, because Tories in the Lords can do the same thing and it becomes a more unruly mess. The idea this creates a problem with conscientious voting is a bit daft, given the reason why, but to be honest, you wouldn’t view it differently, regardless. So the effect is lost because I don’t think you would ever judge it bearing in mind such issues over parliamentary process, so your comment on conscientious voting becomes worthy of a shoulder shrug because of this, as well as your stance in supporting someone who let anti-Semitism into the party.

    I can’t take such claims from Corbyn’s big fans seriously.

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    seriously,what a shower, shameful charlatans .They are making it nearly impossible to vote labour for anyone with a social; conscience

    The only time in my life I didn’t vote Labour was when Corbyn was there, and it broke my heart to give my vote elsewhere. Do I think Starmer is the perfect choice??? Probably not but he’s a far better option than that piece of excrement before him!

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