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We are where we are despite JD, not because of him.
Plan B? No, we don’t have one…..
Chairwoman just been on radio said dodgy d never paid any bills.
Well knock me down with a feather , who would of thought DH could of been lying ??? again .. suppose now GP is safe and both Swan and Hilts are out the picture the folks in charge whom i might ad actually have the clubs best interests at heart may start to reveal a few more details and this DH didnt pay BOMBSHELL 555555 shock is only the first.
Hoping the next Atheltic article isnt to long away …what you say Itonironiron ??? any comment ??
I think it was glaringly obvious he didn’t pay most bills. I never once said he did. What I do know he paid is HMRC until July (left £120k debt according to hmrc statements from Sept) and wages until and including August, he obviously paid some bills otherwise how did players eat, how did phones and internet stay on, how did the grass grow, how did players get to away games on VIP busses, how did we attract the calibre of player without paying agents. If you add up what we know was paid and what I have evidence of then it’s clear he lost money. Thats all I’ve ever said, he did not make money on our club. But he clearly didn’t act correctly and was a terrible terrible chairman.
Whilst Michelle has worked wonders my concern with her is she sounds a little thick, like words are planted in her mouth and she repeats without fully understanding what she is talking about. What happens when the hand outs stop, we can’t have begging buckets at turnstiles every game it’s embarrassing. What happens when this honeymoon period ends and people are fed up with dipping into their pockets? Especially if we don’t get promoted. I know for a fact the £500k wasn’t raised by directors so she’s already lying to us. The foundation put in the majority and Jane Laws charity.
We have a stadium yes which is great news and on the face of it Michelle is a real Gem but does she have the ability to take us forward long term or is she just riding the wave that inevitably dies. I also heard a big big rumour that is starting to circulate (not from
Hilton but somebody inside the club)
This is about Rob Waltham and the real reason he miraculously found £2.5m in a few weeks. Let’s see if that has any legs. But we are still in choppy waters trust me.Qwerty
itonironiron
Should that have been… ironironiron?
Absolutely nothing to do with me.
“a game of crochet”
Really?
Oh good is it £250 prize per month or a week I missed that.
Try reading para 2 in the link above.
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People need to stop panicking, if the debt is now 800k that is easily manageable once all the urgent bills have been paid.
Once GP is back under SUFC control it will bring in more revenue through sponsorship etc to help see us through until the end of the season when a more realistic playing budget can be implemented.
£800K plus whatever GP is going to cost us. £3M+??
That’s a hefty monthly payment right there, so where does the income to cover it come from?
I am also an opinionated sod.
One point I really want to emphasise is that I have said from the outset that the Hamas attack was outrageous & I have not blamed Israel for wanting to retaliate against them.
My objection is attacking Palestinians. Yes, Hamas are embedded there, yes it is difficult to differentiate at times, but they must do so.
My last comment is back to genocide. Israel attacked Gaza knowing that the vast majority of deaths would not be Hamas members. They also attacked the road going South after they suggested that people move South to be safe – again guaranteeing that civilians would die. Today they tracked the border region with Egypt – with the full knowledge that many people were gathering there looking to cross when/if the border was opened. Again, they know that many civilians will die.
This is not a competition (for you JI), but for the last 30 years we have seen many more Palestinian civilians being killed than Israelis.
It is all very sad, and I fear the worst is yet to come.
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“I haven’t said that most on here have said Hamas are right.”
That’s what you said, but nobody said you did. Simples.
Nobody has suggested that Hamas are right, nor has anyone put forward their support for them. What people have said is that Palestinians & Hana’s are not the same.
I haven’t said that most on here have said Hamas are right.
It doesn’t say that though, does it?
Siderite, I think you are extremely patronising to suggest that most of us have lost sight of…….
Nobody has suggested that Hamas are right, nor has anyone put forward their support for them. What people have said is that Palestinians & Hana’s are not the same.
You can’t blame Jews for wanting their own state, but what about the Palestinians? As mentioned above, Israel were given too much political leeway before 1948. Since then they have started the war in 1967, ignored the Oslo peace accord in 1993, land grabbed an incredible amount of land and treated Palestinians as lesser beings.
Earlier, you gave a definition of genocide. Do you not think that telling 1.1M people to travel south and then bomb their escapes road, with them on it, genocide? Is today’s bombing of the border between Gaza and Egypt, where many people are gathering not genocide? Or is it only when Israeli’s are killed (in what was an outrageous attack) that your definition applies?
JustIron. Genocide is not acceptable. Whether 64 is stupid, intelligent or just a shit stirrer, the facts are that Hamas were wrong to attack Israel and the Israeli’s are wrong to attack Gaza. 1300 killed on one side & 2600 killed on the other. The vast majority of them being civilians. As I said, not acceptable.
I disagree. Anyone who is 92 and seriouslyill would be spared a prison sentence – if they had repaid the money. The reality is that you & I couldn’t repay it!!
If there is nothing to report, then they have nothing to tell us.
They will tell us when they have something to report.
It’s not rocket science.
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Raising £66K was impressive.
However, raising £1M is impossible, never mind £3M.
We need an investor or two (or three or four or five…) or a lottery winner!!
It was Swann who caused the issue that necessiatated Sharp having to stump up the money in the first place.
Based on your logic, it was Wharton’s fault for selling to Swann.
We could go back even further …..
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Surely the Brian Laws lounge is the only appropriate name change. Our legendary ex-manager who took us from the depths of league 2 to the most envied small club in the country. We owe him some sort of honour to show our gratitude for his service.The people in power on this site will protest at this idea,this makes it more reason to go ahead with this suggestion.
Tooks us to the depths of league 2 and then up to about 6th in League 1.
I know it’s been mentioned on other social media but where are our superstar ex players? Even the chairmen of our rivals have contributed yet these two are no where to be seen, maybe it’s time the Ian Botham lounge should be renamed the Alex calvo-Garcia lounge.
How do you know who has contributed? Many people have given anonymously.
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5 days left now less if you allow for postage for the trust to register their interest in purchasing the ground to the council, unless of course they’ve already done so.
If you are so knowledgeable, why have you not expressed your interest?
Or a sponsored turning cars over on Cleethorpes front, went down well years ago NI, clever bastards taunting Scunny fans thought they were safe, suppose they were really just not the car.
Your immaturity & lack of social awareness shows no limits……
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Let’s look back at the antics of some of his players over the last few years. There will be a helluva lot of matches to replay.
What a plonker.
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We have survived. Let’s hope that there is now some stability and a realistic approach to the future.
Where does the value of £1.5M come from?
If you are making up a random number, why not go lower?
So NLI you were part of Wharton staff leaving the club with the biggest debt on the books shame on you, left the same time as Wharton did we.
A very spiteful and pathetic post. You just can’t help yourself, can you?
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Good to see more people joining The Trust.
With the current and previous incumbents seemingly intent on destroying the club, it does make me wonder if this was pre-planned to finish the club and take the land for selling, and all the histrionics are all part of the theatre.
It was £3 not £3M.
How unlucky are we to get two totally incompetent owners in a row.
Who cares if we win the league and/or get promotion, survival will be success this season.
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Support the team.
I too stand with Matt & anyone else who has been picked out for these banning orders.
For a man who has said that he was going to be quiet & let his Board run the business he is making a helluva lot of noise.
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Surely Swann won’t want to be known as the past Chairman who destroyed SUFC and broke the hearts of our very loyal supporters.
Swann spent money that he and the club didn’t have and to offset the losses kindly signed over all our assets to his company. I don’t think he gives a toss how he comes across.
I’m no Swann supporter, but at least get your facts right
Swann transferred assets over to his company in return for writing off £11,000,000.
I accept that he, and his managers, were absolutely crap with the use of the money over a long period, but he could have let us keep the assets and the £11M debt. We would have been much worse off than we are now.
On a Radio Humberside interview the EGO said we had gambled but failed.
That is factually incorrect – HE had gambled, we had no say in it. In fact no one had. So who sanctioned the spending season after season that then totaled into the debt of £11 Million – The Chairman had. Yet the club who had no so say in it has to repay its money to the person who spent it !!
It was a gamble, and a bad one. Far too many clubs are doing the same, with dubious owners and no Plan B.
Many of us were not complaining about money being spent in the first few years as we hope for success and promotion. Disaster struck when we failed.
As the owner, Swann could do what he liked, and he did. He even found a mug to buy the club, unfortunately it seems to be that it is another bad ‘un. We shall find out for certain very soon……
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Swanns desperation to sell led to the appointment of Hilton so you could argue he is even more culpable both through lacking a watertight sale of the ground+ land and due dilegence of the new owner .
If you go down that route we should blame Wharton for selling out to Swann……
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Surely Swann won’t want to be known as the past Chairman who destroyed SUFC and broke the hearts of our very loyal supporters.
Swann spent money that he and the club didn’t have and to offset the losses kindly signed over all our assets to his company. I don’t think he gives a toss how he comes across.
I’m no Swann supporter, but at least get your facts right
Swann transferred assets over to his company in return for writing off £11,000,000.
I accept that he, and his managers, were absolutely crap with the use of the money over a long period, but he could have let us keep the assets and the £11M debt. We would have been much worse off than we are now.
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I bet Swann will be interested in the post that states he stole the ground.
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