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It was Swann who caused the issue that necessiatated Sharp having to stump up the money in the first place.
Based on your logic, it was Wharton’s fault for selling to Swann.
We could go back even further …..
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I know it’s been mentioned on other social media but where are our superstar ex players? Even the chairmen of our rivals have contributed yet these two are no where to be seen, maybe it’s time the Ian Botham lounge should be renamed the Alex calvo-Garcia lounge.
How do you know who has contributed? Many people have given anonymously.
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Or a sponsored turning cars over on Cleethorpes front, went down well years ago NI, clever bastards taunting Scunny fans thought they were safe, suppose they were really just not the car.
Your immaturity & lack of social awareness shows no limits……
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Let’s look back at the antics of some of his players over the last few years. There will be a helluva lot of matches to replay.
What a plonker.
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So NLI you were part of Wharton staff leaving the club with the biggest debt on the books shame on you, left the same time as Wharton did we.
A very spiteful and pathetic post. You just can’t help yourself, can you?
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With the current and previous incumbents seemingly intent on destroying the club, it does make me wonder if this was pre-planned to finish the club and take the land for selling, and all the histrionics are all part of the theatre.
It was £3 not £3M.
How unlucky are we to get two totally incompetent owners in a row.
Who cares if we win the league and/or get promotion, survival will be success this season.
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I too stand with Matt & anyone else who has been picked out for these banning orders.
For a man who has said that he was going to be quiet & let his Board run the business he is making a helluva lot of noise.
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Surely Swann won’t want to be known as the past Chairman who destroyed SUFC and broke the hearts of our very loyal supporters.
Swann spent money that he and the club didn’t have and to offset the losses kindly signed over all our assets to his company. I don’t think he gives a toss how he comes across.
I’m no Swann supporter, but at least get your facts right
Swann transferred assets over to his company in return for writing off £11,000,000.
I accept that he, and his managers, were absolutely crap with the use of the money over a long period, but he could have let us keep the assets and the £11M debt. We would have been much worse off than we are now.
On a Radio Humberside interview the EGO said we had gambled but failed.
That is factually incorrect – HE had gambled, we had no say in it. In fact no one had. So who sanctioned the spending season after season that then totaled into the debt of £11 Million – The Chairman had. Yet the club who had no so say in it has to repay its money to the person who spent it !!
It was a gamble, and a bad one. Far too many clubs are doing the same, with dubious owners and no Plan B.
Many of us were not complaining about money being spent in the first few years as we hope for success and promotion. Disaster struck when we failed.
As the owner, Swann could do what he liked, and he did. He even found a mug to buy the club, unfortunately it seems to be that it is another bad ‘un. We shall find out for certain very soon……
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Swanns desperation to sell led to the appointment of Hilton so you could argue he is even more culpable both through lacking a watertight sale of the ground+ land and due dilegence of the new owner .
If you go down that route we should blame Wharton for selling out to Swann……
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Surely Swann won’t want to be known as the past Chairman who destroyed SUFC and broke the hearts of our very loyal supporters.
Swann spent money that he and the club didn’t have and to offset the losses kindly signed over all our assets to his company. I don’t think he gives a toss how he comes across.
I’m no Swann supporter, but at least get your facts right
Swann transferred assets over to his company in return for writing off £11,000,000.
I accept that he, and his managers, were absolutely crap with the use of the money over a long period, but he could have let us keep the assets and the £11M debt. We would have been much worse off than we are now.
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For someone who said that he was not making any more statements, it hasn’t taken him long to backtrack again, has it?
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Swann did write off £11,000,000 of debt. Better for the Club than him giving us the ground and then pissing off. However you look at it, Swann has lost many millions over the years (although he was heavily involved in causing said debt), band I don’t blame home for trying to get something for the ground – especially when DH agreed a price, which was less than the market value.
Not defending Swann at all, just pointing out that he could have closed us down at any time, but didn’t. I regard him as a total failure as a football team owner but I do not believe that he wants us closed down.
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Good post Siderite.
I agree with you probably more than you think. I did write a post early on after I heard David Hilton’s Sound cloud interview/statement/emotional outpouring in which I offered him the advice to issue an apology for misleading fans and to pay any outstanding invoices.
My opinion only but I think he deserves a second chance over the Fraud conviction but appreciate other don’t. I assume people that feel this way would want him away from the club immediately.
The apology and payment of outstanding debts would at least help take a bit of heat out of the situation.
None of this makes me a Hilton “supporter”. I didn’t support Swann or the Wharton’s either. I support the club and always will whoever (and sometimes in spite of) whoever is the chairman of the club.
The facts of the situation is that as ever is the case us supporters of a football club have little or no influence over control of said club.
Hilton has achieved a turnaround on the field at a club in seemingly terminal decline for 5 or 6 years. I give him credit for that. He is taking longer than I would like to solve the off field shitshow that he inherited. I have cut him slack on that due to the sheer scale of the inherited issues but after 6 months remaining issues should be sorted by now.
Regarding the ground and land I am hopeful that Hilton is working through a strategy to get that for something closer to its real market value. If that pisses off the previous owner I would see that as a bonus.
Sadly the only definite action we can ever take when disagreeing with the ownership is to stop going to games which is what half the fan base had done with the previous owner.
I think that you have misunderstood about having a second chance. Nobody has, as far as I’ve seen, opposed DH because he went to prison for fraud, although it cannot be forgotten. What many have said is that he went out of his way to attack people who suggested that he had gone to prison and had other names than White & Hilton. He denied this vociferously and has only confirmed it after the Athletic published their research.
Additionally, he has never said sorry for what he did, not has he apologized to any of those who suggested that he had other names and had indeed been to prison.
He is still playing the victim by suggesting that people are affecting his mental health and by threatening to walk away.
Finally, it would appear that by changing his name to Anderson and being registered as a Director (for 8 different companies I believe) within 5 years of being struck off as a Director, he may have committed further frauds. Did he admit all this when he declared for the fit & proper test? Companies House certainly didn’t know about it, and I would be surprised if the FA did.
Personally, if DH were to apologise to all those he slagged off, showed some contrition for what he had done, and sorted out all the outstanding debts, then I would happily give him a second chance.
Sadly, I don’t believe that he will do any such thing.
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Throughout this whole scenario Hilton has not apologised for anything. Even when he explained about the fraud he never said sorry, only that he wished he hadn’t done it.
He always plays the victim card, and it is never his fault. His attack on Slater was unnecessary & plain wrong.
He is not trustworthy.
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There is one point that all of you have overlooked, including Hilton.
From The Athletic:
“In a case that started at Nottingham Crown Court in late 2014, Anderson was also disqualified from being a company director for five years after pleading guilty to 15 charges.”
Yet Hilton became a director in the following businesses:
Reality Management Ltd – appointed 21/11/17
Advent Corporation Ltd – appointed 21/11/17
Centrepoint Marketing Ltd – appointed 21/11/17
Stratton Enterprises Ltd – appointed 21/11/17
Maxwell Cohen Ltd – appointed 28/06/18
Maxwell Cohen Estates Ltd – appointed 18/06/19
Acquisition And Property Management Ltd – appointed 18/06/19
DH Management And Holdings Ltd – appointed – 24/09/19As you can see, the 5 year disqualification period for David Anderson as reported by The Athletic and the directorships held by David Hilton during the disqualification period don’t reconcile.
This is of critical importance.
He was imprisoned under the name Anderson.
His “new” Directorships were/are under the name Hilton.
There are 8 new registrations within the 5 year ban. Once could be classified as a mistake. 8 times is deliberate deception. If he has deceived Companies House by operating under a different name then he has committed fraud – AGAIN.
This could well result in further charges.
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We’re going to get demands to know the background of that journalist, as if that matters, aren’t we?
Nobody has accused the journalist of lying, because he hasn’t.
It is in the public interest for the information to be available to us. That is what a journalists job is.
The facts are that DH has been lying to us all.
He told us he had bought the club, the land and the ground. He hadn’t .
He told us he had only 2 names and he had never been to prison. He was lying.
Why should we believe him?
Chasing the journalist is merely people trying to deflect from Hilton. Irregardless of Slater’s background, Hilton is a bad un.
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WG making assumptions again.
It never was, and never will be, Swann or Hilton. There are alternatives – if we look for them (let’s hope that the Board are looking).
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Scunthorpe still has a football club
btw if he goes n the club folds would you shed a tear ???
Some on here wouldn’t batter an eyelid if the club went under. A select few ranks Hilton resigning as more a success than the alternative, Hilton resigning and nobody else coming in with money to buy the club and then ceasing to exist.
They clearly know the club could well and truly go out of business but clearly don’t care.
You honestly believe that?
I don’t understand how anyone can genuinely believe that.
We are all Scunny supporters and want the club to be successful. However, we don’t want people like Swann and Hilton to be involved.
Swann has a massive ego and appalling business sense, whilst Hilton seems to have limited assets and is totally dishonest.
The idea that if you don’t support DH then you must support Swann is preposterous. It’s a big world out there.
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It coincides,roughly, with when Swann v Hilton decision will be made.
Swann, assuming he wins, will sell the stadium.
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CT, I think there are major differences in what you are trying to compare.
Firstly, Swann saying he was going to leave us in a better position was what he believed. His incompetence is why we are where we are.
Secondly, in reality he has given us more than the ground back (although we don’t actually have the ground!!). He wrote off £11 million in debts, and whilst this was majorly down to his incompetence he could have totally cleared us out. I’m not defending him, but he could have made things a lot worse for us.
DH also seems to want to be popular. He said in his statement that he was a quiet family man. This has not been clear to anybody us as he laps up the adulation from the Facebook group and others.
How unfortunate that we get 2 losers in a row…….
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