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Siderite wrote:

There are few actions without downsides, but some might say the publicity is a price worth paying to put pressure on Swann.

Looking through a few other forums and it has made it on to there. None were discussing our plight when we didn’t.

Yes people will discuss our plight. However, they will do nothing to help us.

We discussed Bury and others on here – but did nothing.

Any activity by us supporters should have happened 12 months ago. It is now too little too late. And before all you keyboard warriors get carried away, no I haven’t got involved. I have neither the time nor the inclination.

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North Lincolnshire Irons wrote:

These are just my thoughts and instincts due to the ongoing dire situation with Swann. A deal had supposedly be done with Ian and Simon in December. Simon came on the radio and stated that Peter and Karin Swann had rung him and wished them the best of luck. People in the media have said also that the goalposts keep being moved. The London consortium also put a bid in and now there seems to be other interested parties. If Swann had wanted to sell surely he would and should have done by now, particularly as he has run all the debts up which are owed.

None of us has any idea what has been offered to Swann. Neither do we know what was demanded as part of any deal.

If you are expressing your opinion you should make it clear. It seems to me that you blame any delay on Swann (which may or may not be correct), but the reality is that you know nothing more than the rest of us.

Let’s just hope that any deal is completed as soon as possible.

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Can you tell me how you know he has moved the goalposts? I was unaware that anything has been made public.

Please also explain how you know he would rather sell to anyone other than the local consortium. As far as I know there have been no other offers made. Let me know if I am wrong.

None of us want this to drag on any longer than it needs to, but making up stuff just agitates people even more.

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Awaywego

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Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg wrote:

So it is 5million as stated in the accounts and not the fantasy figure of 900k Awayswego was suggesting.

To be fair to Awaywego, I believe he stated that the land was worth £900K. The £5M refers to the land, ground etc. etc. (Which is very close to the £5.3M listed on the books).

Let’s all pray that a deal is pushed through soon.

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CMC wrote:

Person who SE replied to has been doing his best to get our situation out there, he might not know how to run a business but he cares for SUFC Deeply and deserves more than the ridicule given to him and his mate.

This person is a loud mouth who thinks he’s the biggest & best Scunny supporter around. He talks as if he is best mates with people and intimates that he knows more than anyone else – but never has anything new to say.

He can also be rude and abusive on FB and looks up other people’s profiles and makes rude remarks about them. I know this for fact as he did it to me.

Waste of space.

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Sorry Les, but the vast majority of people would snap your arm off to buy a property with a 10, 15 or 20% reduction.

I think you over estimate the depth of feeling for the Club in Scunthorpe as a whole (when probably over half the support comes from outside the town).

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SODIron wrote:

The “Fans Director” contributes as mush as our broken scoreboard. I cannot recall the last time he made a meaningful announcement, or even acknowledged the fans legitimate concerns. I can only assume that the club have instructed him to say nothing, and if that is indeed the case, he should resign as they are preventing him doing what he was elected to do!

Daz, I agree that the guy has had no impact on anything. However, whilst you talk about the fans “legitimate concerns”, how many of them have actually contacted him to make them known and/or ask his advice. Surely it is a two way relationship?

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Awaywego wrote:

There would be no point having a trust if someone else carries out what they should be doing, people will listen to a recognized organization not to someone they don’t know. The Southend trust come up with numerous ideas and funding to help their club. I suppose if they are all like you on the trust ironironiron it sounds has if it will be to much hassle for them.

I agree that the Trust has not torn up any trees, but if people would listen to them then you would be best to go to them with your ideas and ask for their support.

As I do not live in the area I am unable to commit to attending meetings. I have been disappointed with what they have achieved to date (or not achieved), but it is more than most others have done.

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I am not supporting the Trust, although I am a member.

It just seems that when people have their bright ideas they always suggest that somebody else carries it out.

If you have an idea why not approach the Trust and get their support?

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Awaywego & Daz, have you bothered to get in touch with the Iron Trust?

It’s always somebody else who has to do the legwork…….

Too little too late.

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Deereyme66 wrote:

What evidence do you have that he has any money left to spend on another court case?

What evidence do you have that he hasn’t?

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North Lincolnshire Irons wrote:

64 – ALLEGED covers myself against a disgraceful SUFC wrecker. He would take anyone to court as nothing is ever his fault. He thinks he’s blameless for all of his wrong doings.

If you think that saying “alleged” will keep you out of the firing line, you are wrong.

So, if you are going to make any further allegations, tread carefully.

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“I stand corrected”

You are very good at ‘copy and paste’ Burney. Why not just stop making things up?

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64 wrote:

You can speculate all you like,I’m not

“My head says the deal is dead.”

Yes you are.

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billpuntonsghost

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RoamingBull wrote:

Surely Adkins, Bara or Lawsy wouldn’t want to see us drop again.

Com’on gents FOC for second half of the season?

So you expect someone to take on a shit role for 6 months, for free? It certainly wouldn’t enhance their CV and they would likely get abuse too, especially if there wasn’t a major turnaround. Unlikely (and I wouldn’t blame them).

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Gurnelista

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Pat O’Cake wrote:

We don’t know anything because we have never been told anything! The fans have been treated like the proverbial mushroom since he walked through the door! So the fans cannot be blamed for jumping to conclusions!

Jumping to conclusions is wrong, especially some of the ridiculous ones that have cropped up – and some people now look really stupid.

What is worse is where people just make stuff up, and that has happened a lot. Totally unnecessary.

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Siderite wrote:

We don’t know everything, but I don’t think faffing around with some property developer for ages because he wouldn’t sell to a local consortium is the sign of someone who was acting just in the interests of the club. I think we can have some assumptions as to why it took so long for him to prioritise Elliott and Sharp.

If you were selling you’d look for the best deal you could get. Rightly so.

We don’t know if the local bid was ready when the London consortium made theirs. Swann cannot be blamed for selling the club!! We’ve been on at him for the last 3 years to do so.

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The reality is that we know nothing!!

Is Swann moving the goalposts? If so, please explain NLI because we don’t know.

Sp many people on here are making things up or “assuming” things. Let’s have some facts to back up what you are saying.

I’m not saying Swann is playing ball, but just making up stuff is not acceptable.

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Ferrite wrote:

9 goals in the group stage, similar to the last world cup. More goals than England scored at the 2014 (2), 2010 (3), 2006 (6) and 2002 (6) world cups put together. But, sure, Southgate’s a negative, defensive manager who plays with the handbrake on.

The total goals scored in the list ypu provided is 17. I’m sure that’s more than the 9 they have scored so far!!

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BobbyGmeister

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Wasn’t it 21 or 22 draws that season?

We were ahead in something like 15 of them afrer the 87th minute.

The worst promotion ever.

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billpuntonsghost wrote:

Was the 3-3 game at Dagenham when it was torrential rain towards the end of the match ?

Yes. We were 3-1 up when the players were taken off because of the weather.

They came back out about 15 mins later and the pitch was absolutely soaked.

There was only circa 20 mins keft but we managed to hold on for a point!!

A strange game all round.

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North Lincolnshire Irons wrote:

I fear Swann is waiting for the gates to drop and then he may come and put us into administration and put the blame on the fans for not coming through the turnstiles. Then he may liquidate the club and sell the land to get back the money which HE has squandered. Lie after lie after lie. He says he wants to sell the club so why does he apparently keep moving the goalposts when we have two consortiums which appear very willing to buy our Club. If he doesn’t sell now it proves he is willing to let our club go under for his own benefit in my opinion. What sort of a person does it take who would wreck a football club who have been a league club for over seventy years, with a decent fan base of dedicated supporters, as proved by the current attendances. Even though the football is dire fans are still attending. I ask again what sort of a person would wreck a club, sign over the assets and land to their own company and then walk away with the proceeds from such assets????????? If this were to happen what sort of a person would do this????????? Time will tell but to the SWANNS please allow new owners to buy our club and get gone because it is you who is costing our club the longer you stay as owners. I believe that if the SWANNS were to leave there would be a return of another 1000 supporters through the turnstiles immediately. This is my opinion and may not happen, we can only hope.

Do you actually know if these 2 consortiums are actually willing to buy the club? Also, are they willing to make an acceptable bid?

Swann has been a disaster for our club, but it is unfair that all the assumptions that you make are all negative against him. You may be correct, but I believe that he will fulfil some of the things he has told us he will. None of us know what will happen – but let’s hope it happens soon.

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Bartoniron66 wrote:

Not sure if these two are injured? But surely if they are fit they should be at least on the bench for experience at least, if their fit surely it can only be financial why they are not playing.

today we desperately needed to play at a high pace but we slipped into Maidstones trap played at their pace and got punished, the players need to be shown how hard it is for the supporters to keep giving their hard earned money and getting nothing back.

Today is the lowest point I have ever felt! In the 47 years of supporting the Iron, we had poor teams in the mid 70s but you want to the games knowing they would put 110% into the game even if they were outclassed.

I Was reasonably happy on Wednesday after the game as Wrexham were a class above us and we at least had a go, today against a very poor team we were made to look even poorer and I really do fear the the club as a whole.

Starting to believe Mr and Mrs Swann really do want us to go into administration as punishment for the mistakes they have made in throwing money into the pit and not getting to the promised land.

Three words to the both of them “SELL US NOW” please,please,please sell us before it’s to late and give the new people a fighting chance, But unfortunately I can’t see it happening as they have made their mind up to bankrupt the club.

Can you please explain to me how the Swanns will benefit more by bankrupting the Club than by selling it?

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Anonymous wrote:

Cash flow problem regarding purchasing new stock? Suppliers not been paid? All speculation but it’s a rightful concern, before anybody starts complaining.

It’s only a rightful comcern if it is the truth. At this moment in time it is only conjecture.

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To say that Swann made up the potential sale to get more fans at matches as we need the money is beyond ridiculous.

The amount of money needed to keep the Club afloat would require at least an additional 3,000 fans every month based on what we are reputed to be losing and require. It is never going to happen.

As I’ve stated before, Swann is a disaster fornus and needs to sell up asap. However, the repeated requests for him to make a statement are only slightly less boring than all those people who call him a liar when he does.

We don’t know if he is finalising a sale or not, and none of us know what price he is asking for. Sadly, we just have to wait and see.

I would like posters to think before they post as the site has become noticeably less busy as fabrication of all things SUFC has increased. As I was told many years ago, if you have nothing sensible to say don’t say anyyhing.

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Too little & probably too late.

We do not have enough support to take the Club on. The idea that the Club belongs to the fans is bollocks.

It used to belong to Wharton, and now it belongs to Swann. Hopefully there is someone out there with enough money, and enough conviction, to take it on and give the fans what they want.

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Ironawe wrote:

So the deal that was never on in the first place is off. Swann does not intend to sell – he just needed the next excuse.

Can you explain what evidence you have to tell us that the deal is off? (That is, the deal that you say was never on in the first place!!).

PS how do you know that there was no deal on the first place?

I want Swan gone as much as the next man, but all this BS is getting somewhat monotonous.

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f row crew wrote:

Just another thing to thank Swann for. Everything around the club is just so toxic, disharmony everywhere. He has created that culture and environment alongside everything else. A true disgrace of a man.

F row crew, and the 2 people who liked the post, should be ashamed.

Swann has a lot to answer for, but blaming him for the (so called) fans behaviour last night is ridiculous.

As recent posts show, this has been going on periodically for many a year.

These people should be identified and banned. It is totally unacceptable.

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Cliff Byrne's Right Peg

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Come on Alky, be positive for once.

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premier iron wrote:

OK we have all comments but at the end of the day Swann not interested in selling

Based on no knowledge whatsoever…..

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