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I’m not prepared to accept that a really good manager like Hill can just lose all his abilities. It is illogical.
You should have seen what Tranmere fans said about him. Playing players out of position for no real reason and tactically inept was just two. We all saw evidence of this last season. I must admit that some of his decision making was completely bonkers and made little to no sense.
Tranmere fans actually cheered when he went. I remember one of their fans laughing when we signed Hill on twitter and went on to explain people were getting pissed off with Hill playing one of their LB’s in CM and a RB at CB when they had no previous experience in even playing in those positions.
The fan in question said it was only when he went and they got in a manager who actually played the players where they were supposed to be played that they started to progress.
Keith Hill did well at Rochdale signing bargain bin basement players fuelled with the “everybody are against us” siege mentality. Hill always has played ultra simplistic, direct football. I’ve never seen a silky Keith Hill side.
Another thing which was said by the same fan was that he over emphasis work rate and “passion” over every thing else. That was also apparent last season.
I was the first person to credit the club in signing Keith Hill but I was another who was suckered in by his Rochdale days but when you look beyond that he’s dubious to say the least. I quickly began to realise that the Tranmere fan knew what the crack was.
Do I think he’s the one for us ?. No I don’t !
Hill will stay though while ever Swann is hanging around like a bad smell. I want both the Swann clan and Hill throwing out.
Cant disagree with any of that … a new broom sweeps clean n BOTH Swann and Hill need to go.
long hard tough season awaits ..with IMO little to cheer, with this current mob its a relegation fight all the way and i wouldnt be surprised to see us drop further at the end of it.
weakest SUFC squad i can ever recall
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You need not spend too much of your time assessing promotion needs pal, ask yourself how many points are required to save relegation, or more obviouse, how does the club stay afloat, with no imput from it’s owner, that has only been interested in taking from the club, and who’s aim appears to be to destroy it. National League North or liquidation is coming our way.
Yes agree ..a more realistic area in which to assess and predict… defo a higher likely hood of relegation than promotion IMO
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the more i hear from Hill the more i think hes just covering his back in the likelyhood of another dire season … nothing will be his fault and never blame laid at the door of Swann..SO
WHERE HAS IT ALL GONE WRONG ..
other clubs seem to be able to find and sign players ..alas not Scunny , im guessing the current toxicity at the club is one reason… the future most certainly isnt claret n blue with this current outfit from the top all way down to the matchday food and broken scoreboard .. its rotten
im dreamin of new owners exciting football, a new manager and no ore Hill waffling.
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Buy season tickets kids, enjoy all the excitement that you’ve come to expect in recent seasons!
I always thought Hill was a motivator, a budget Adkins, but since he’s been here it feels like all he’s done is try to get us to revise our expectations downwards. Come on Keith, give us something to dream about! Give us some hope!
Hill interview was tedium at its best .. negative offering zero inspiration to supporters more so in a way telling them to expect the worst..
Hill just the latest yes man lacking in many departments ..similar to Southgate spewing sound bites without actually giving any info on stuff that really matters to the fans .. already covering his own arse in advance of weekly NL tepid defeats and lack of exitment n hope… can hear him now a few weeks into the season..
we didnt sign players we are not good enough .. when really should be .. im a shit manager working for a really crap water tight snake of a chairman who doesnt care.
increasingly im tending to think Hill is just the next appointed YES man .. i was pretty chuffed when he arrived but now after his woeful stats and equally inept man management skills ( some players didnt want to play to avoid injury still erks me ) like to see the back of him .. talks in cliches n its the same old bollocks he spouted last season , without new owners and big changes with him and Swann we are totally screwed ..DOOMED to further bad times and ridicule.
The clubs current situation remind me of a purple resprayed old banger Hillman Allegro thats been up for sale on the forecourt for years .. the price gradually reduced as the rust spots start to bleed through and still no takers .. finally the wheels fall off it rots and has to be scrapped.
Just who in gods name would want to buy the club ???? its in a shambolic state both on and off the pitch and more so financially so unappealing to any investor of sound mind n body.
i wish i had some thing positive to post but the reality is .. theres nothing to see here move along please.
England will never win any meaningful trophies with Southgate in charge .. boring and clueless but media friendly just how the EFA like their men … even with all the young exiting talent on hand seems only know a set up that is defensive and negative. Being ripped a new arse by the mighty Hungarians confirmed just how bad this turd has become .. a turd very difficult to flush and imo no way will he get the boot as no one to replace him NO ONE ..
ITS NOT COMING HOME , ITS NEVER COMING HOME
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There are lots of players out there that would be good signings for Scunny ..alas with the current toxicity at the club actually getting them to sign over another less shambolic outfit is always gonna be the problem ..Hill must soon be through his black book of his ex players and mates.
CC ..well done to the Cods on getting promoted .. deserved especially the way the Mariners handled the 3 play off games… shame no derby fixtures next season but im sure the Iron will be back , alas it may take way longer then it took your mob if we dont get rid of Swann n Co.
UTI
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all this take over talk is a sham ..its Swann BS .. IMO there wont be one anytime soon for the precise reasons mentioned already in this thread .. i would add i hope im wrong but it we are stuck with this leech another season it just means more heartache and pain , hang on theres a song in there some where.
SUFC are possibly the worst club for keeping supporters updated .. winning awards etc deflects the fact no info ever seems to be shared re the general running of the club , be it a sale signings or other .. the club website is pants.
Not looking forward to Hills pre n post match drivel … wait n see if he thinks ” WE ARE GOOD ENOUGH ” for the NL as it seemed his favourite phrase in his L2 debacle and he cant blame anyone else now as its his baby now… i believe his points per game record remains the poorest of any manager at the club ..i may be wrong not sure but its still piss poor and got us relegated from the EFL.
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Being released by Eastleigh doesn’t excite me. If they don’t want him doubt whether he will be much of an asset to us.
That hit the nail on the head .. being released by a club that didnt do anything much in the NL (regardless of the reasons) last season and ORRRR the lad wants to come home to the North , IMO totally uninspiring signing and already it seems Hill is chasing any rag tag n bobtail cheapo players as his budget allows, same old cliches from the player on the SUFC website of how he feels happy and settled and wants to impress ..just what else could he say ??? ..expect more of the same low level additions and the same old bollocks UNTIL there are changes at the top and management levels… no marque players signings as just WTF would want to come to Scunny in its current state ??
mid table at best next season but im edging to us being lower and in an arse nipping relegation scrap most of the time.
You’ve decided that another relegation is acceptable then?
IMO i just cant see enough ability and experience in any depth now or arriving any time soon , dont rate Hill and with the current budget and uninterested “want out” chairman another relegation is favourite .. if i had to put a 500 quid bet on SUFC being champions , promoted via play offs or relegated (no mid table obscurity) im afraid it would have to be placed on the latter as things stand…sad but true.
The club is rotten to the core and in a shambolic state .. a quick fix is impossible under the situation as it stands.
Every morning i wake up turn on my PC and log into this site hoping for news of a new owner of any kind .. alas not yet and the thought of another season with Swann at the helm Turnbil as his puppet steering us rudderless to oblivion isnt much fun… and listening to more Hill post match BS makes my piss boil.
UTI CNBAWT
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indeed a cracking game tho im hearing Mullin is getting a bit of stick re POSSIBLY falling over for the penalty and then his Maradona moment ..alas means not a jot as the Cods never gave up and IMO deserved their win.
On a selfish note hoping Solihul win the final purely as already ststed it means 2 local derbies plus a packed away end .. the latter may happen a few times with some of the higher profile NL clubs .. ie Chesterfield , Wrexham , Notts County and Halifax etc.Alas im predicting a Cod promotion as the way they have won the games sniffs of this is their year and well done to them and Hurst … kicked out ov GP cos he wouldnt put up with Swanns bullshit.. seems Hill isnt so straight and continues to try to run with the foxes n the hounds saying the right things to the fans whilst always watching Swanns back .. a yes man that IMO needs to go as soon new owners arrive IF ANY ARRIVE.
PREDICTION Solihul 2 Cods 3
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Another decent game Halifax v Chesterfield .. miles better in every way than the week in week out dross presented by our group. oh my days without any real change we will struggle massively next season.
Seems to be lots activity in the LI/2 transfer news , any SUFC updates , any new signings yet ?? … Hill may be away on summer Holiday soon hes had a long hard season n need to relax NOT.
If Swann is skint and it appears that way saying he will not put another quid into the club cant see how any new players can possibly come in ..time will tell but im not hopeful and preparing for the NL with Hills kids is very worrying after watching quite a bit of NL recently.
Also ..the Cods may go up thus loosing a local derby fixture .. after 94th minute and 119th goals against Notts County you gotta think its could be their year and a quick return to the EFL.
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watching the Wrexham v Bromley cup final, end to end great quick incisive passing and play henceforth with our current mob it would be like lambs to the slaughter playing anything like this standard..
York City and Dorking into the NL .. again teams on the up whilst we are going the other way.
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Its at times like this that the fans need to be told what is happening with recruitment. Is KH, LT & WS looking at half decent players in non league or are we waiting to see what dross other clubs are letting go. If the club want fans to support the club then at least the club should be keeping the fans up to date. Our club webpage tells you nothing. The club have little or nowt to say. Now that is worrying.
Bang on.. how the club operates re keeping fans informed is hopeless yes there has to be a certain level of privacy but not even a mention of any targets to sign …also.. the website is crap and same old same old dross .. OTD bollocks , IN A COUPLE OF YEARS DOWN THE LINE IF STILL IN BUSINESS can we look forward to an OTD we got relegated to the NL and lost our EFL status vid.
Swann constantly asks fans to support the club buying season tickets , using the restaurant n buying merchandise but offers little back to keep fans interested and remotely enthused ..hes just going through the motions until a buyer comes in or the club is wound up goes bust.. either is a win win for him and the latter is favourite at the moment.
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Does it make any difference if Bunn leaves … NO .. hes injury prone and i think hes goal tally stands at a stunning ONE .. bye bye Bunny.
Lots of names coming onto the market as the retained n released lists come out .. alas i cant see anyone actually choosing to come to Scunny over any other club with the mess we are currently in, kids it is then and if so we are doomed for a further drop into footballing oblivion. Our club is rotten to the core, just who would want to buy it is my issue, we need new enthused owners quick but then there is still the ground issue to over come.
Liked Hill when appointed but in hindsight we didnt get what it said on the can .. hes been and still is terrible in his selections , player management and his post match reactions make yer toes curl… im in the time to go camp on him, use the same taxi as Bunn n bye bye
Worryingly the Cods made the NL playoffs and could get promoted which will scrub off a local derby for next season, the thought of swapping places with them and having to listen to their semi literate crowing is unsettling so lets hope they loose.
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