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lets just note ..
its quite possible you will get 2 away fixtures back to back with a home postponement due to bad weather or cup action so GP could realistically not a see a competitive game for a 3 weeks or even a month… the ground will just go to rack n ruin as will the local fan base ..
IMO this will just lead to the the desired end result of Ilkeston Iron …which in my book they can stick up their arse.
SUFC should stay in Scunny , shit training facility or not its be ok for how many years already yet now its deemed not fit for purpose as we drop lower down the football pyramid .. this move is the first move in the chess game i believe will come to fruition ending in a merger and Scunthorpe not having a club at all.
Yes ive slept on Hiltons words and even more so now im very skeptical as to his real divide n conquer motives..
Time will tell … lets suck it n see as mu old gran used to say!!
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It appears from DH words the academy hasnt worked and with funding being lost thought a hard decision its a no brainer to keep it going and would be a drain on funds that could go elsewhere.
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I’m seeing all this as the beginning of the end for SUFC in its own right with an MK Dons style gig coming to fruition in the future.…not only is it embarrassing being a fan on the football side there seems to be too many shady decisions being made re the clubs future within the town.
Develop retail outlets on the training pitch & car parks and GP is a blot on the landscape. A carbuncle that reduces the footfall to the surrounding stores every other week.
Young mums ain’t going to take their kids down there when it’s awash with beer glugging footy fans.
GP is on a countdown clock and ultimately will be demolished to make way for more outlets.Sadly re your last sentence Rene ….thats areal possibility ..
This ILK training move is the first step in the beginning of the end .. may take awhile but its coming.
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Mate ov mine a fellow NL fan of another club i cant bring myself to mention went to watch footy at Gateshead in his words ….. the worst stadium ever to watch a game zero atmos need binoculars best thing was the chippy near the ground.
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I’m always suspicious of people who post in capitals, however I have no evidence whatsoever to justify my suspicions.
YES SAME HERE ..
Let DH n JD get on with shit or bust .. IMO it wont end well and the town will no longer have a local football club within the next 3 years.
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GP will without any doubt fall into disrepair
Staffing issues on match days with become an issue
There are a multitude of ways GP can and will become defunct to suit possible future plans.BTW i may be mistaken but DH on paper doesnt own the ground yet?? and if any problems do arise Iron fans may be making the trip ti Ilkeston to watch their team.
1899 gig is dead… that didnt last long.
Agree with earlier post this is like Brexit with Monty Python in charge.
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I’m suggesting this is the thin end of the wedge I-A, as are others. It’s a view based on a number of things that have happened / are happening, it’s not a conspiracy theory.
The strangest ‘takeover’ of a football club since the inception of the Football League.
If pre-season friendlies take place at Ilkeston in the summer – would you travel from Scunny to give your support at the games?
What if you all toe the line and the games go ahead and a couple of thousand of you make the journey?
What if it’s declared to be a roaring success and that ground sharing with Ilkeston is beneficial for both clubs and the way forward?The Wombles became the Dons of MK.
Will we become the Iron of Ilkeston?
I think thats where this is heading .. some kind of ground share with SUFC and Ilk combining .. i will say now i very much doubt a new training facility will be sourced and constructed in Scunny once its moved its gone that plan will simply get swept under the carpet and forgotten.
I would also bet my smaller left but perfectly formed left testicle that some pre season friendlies will be played at ILK.
ANY MOVE TO ILKESTON SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING PERIOD… yes sadly lay off some staff at GP but fine a training facility in Scunny and keep the club in the town .. im seeing all this as the beginning of the end for SUFC in its own right with an MK Dons style gig coming to fruition in the furture.
Sadly after the joy of getting rid of Swan (nearly) with all this negativity, changes and whats happened in the last few weeks my re enthused support of the club is waning, not only is it embarassing being a fan on the football side there seems to be too many shady decisions being made re the clubs future within the town.
Make a cracking documentary one day !!
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I think you mean ‘wasn’t’ WG. Agree, a lot more to this than being about facilities. With training and operations moving to Ilkeston and GP only open on matchdays, the club is all but leaving the town. How long before opening GP on matchdays becomes ‘unsustainable’ too? A sceptic might say, ‘can’t you see what’s happening here?’
Agree with this totally hence my earlier post directly after listening to Hilton .. this whole ILK move for training has more to it than just cos of a crap training pitch at Scunny, clearing the decks , land around GP for development virtually closing GP except match days all suspect in my opinion.. hey silly me when DH bought the club (nearly not yet complete) i though it was with the intention to keep it where it belongs actually in the town of Scunthorpe not move it away ,dissect and de staff it.
As a footnote ..this 1899 share scheme must be dead in the water now , who in the right mind would pay for a share of it when quite possibly will be rolling in tumbleweed 6 days per week before it becomes impractical and games moved to …….. ?? Ilkeston by any chance ??
I want to support DH but not a fan of the decision to move to anything ILK .. a location in Scunny should be found and GP “office” remain open that way the town still has a club.
I could see many supporters drifting away upon relegation being confirmed and DHs future plans coming in.
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im a tad worse for wear as well… depressed due to the Scunny result and staying in a small rural border town on business i ended up on the local 40% abv moonshine washed down with Lao beers.. big mistake as i woke up sweating and convulsing as i dreamt i was in Cleethorpes and had been forced at gun point to buy a season ticket for the codheads !!
they dont make em like this anymore ….
you been on the turps again Rene ?? :)
Great track tho
Still not happy with the season tickets- supporters should be able to commit to a season ticket using a card in 2023. The other option means paying an extra tenner each game for step 2 non league football which will put many off.
Understand the reason for moving the training facility as it stands- however, developing a facility within Scunthorpe should be a priority.
Always knew the academy was going, it’s a shame but it hasn’t produced anything of note for a long time now and will turn into money pit once the EFL funding goes.
Never nice hearing staff will be losing their jobs, but again, the reality of the situation is we are soon to be competing in a league with Buxton and Farsley; we have to become sustainable and that’s going to upset a few along the way.
Not sure how the signing of cat 1 academy will work. Are we permanently signing them and then loaning them out for development ?
Can’t believe the playing staff budget is 30% of turnover, no wonder we are witnessing the dross we are.
I may have been mistaken but i heard it as 30% of the wage bill was players ..not turnover .. that said if correct the other 70% goes on salaries for all other no playing staff so its sad but plenty of room for a cull.
Dont like the sound of this training in ILK marlarkey .. sounds a bit iffy to me.. but i didnt buy the club Hilts did …. wasnt he in The Great Escape ??? (not this year).. he did cross the wire of death though1 user thanked author for this post.
listened to the whole interview and i was fine with all DH comments until he got to the manager and backing JD, obviously he must of had gummy bears in his lug holes and wearing those special rose tinted glasses not seeing the glaring selection and lacking tactical awareness issues most of us see as clear as a wart on yer helmet.
Im sure i heard him say he was relieved this season was nearly over .. correct ?
DH is worth backing , seems he has a plan which include JD n Co so lets unify and see where they can take SUFC next season.
UTI
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With this current crop both on n off the field I honestly cant see us picking up many more points from the remaining fixtures maybe the odd 1 or 2..
We are all but gone now
next step is to make it mathematically certain which will happen rather swiftly.
play out the rest of the season with little pride
no end of season party, no bonuses
loan players all drift off leaving the bare bones
A few players will be sold moved on snapped up by NL n L2 clubs leaving even less
a hard season in NLN regional football with the real possibility of falling further and off the cliff into the abyss joining all the obscure names you only recognize from the FA giant killer list..
Torguay may still join us in the drop and looking at them and numerous other sides in NLN probably be there or lower for many years.Reality is kicking in .. we are doomed , crap and whose to say we have reached the bottom of the clubs decline yet .
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Well i said the result will depend on which Iron turn up and obviously the “dont give a toss attitude bunch” we saw at Notts n York took to the field and were rightly so beaten by another struggling crap side who just wanted it more…
JDs tactics n decision making is very suspect, too many players who on loan , short contracts who dont give a shit… no goals in this team and when manage to get a sniff of a chance its missed
DISGRACEFUL TODAY , EMBARASSED TO CALL MYSELF A SCUNNY FAN
Another good attendance badly let down yet again with a sub standard performance in every way.
Respect to the 158 Torquay fans long trip but worth it .
NLN it is then.
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just seen the starting line up and only going with Bennett up front again .. Elliot should be in, at what point will JD realize its time to set up to attack and go for it.
Ferris starts
Pugh on benchThanks for the commentary link again Rene ..much appreciated.
Prediction time in yet another must win fixture that we probably wont win.
Heart says 3-1 Scunny
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It’s the same old story give the manager 10 games next season and then reassess. In reality Nelson should have been in charge until the season end then depending on how he/we had done a change or not could/should have been made IMO.
Yes spot on Nelson should of been in charge until the end of the season ..then depending the outcome make changes or dont .. the gamble to bring in JD and a raft of new faces has backfired.
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It’s worth noting that there is little between the two managers (Nelson & Dean);
Nelson’s Record : Pld 8, W2, D2, L4 Pts 8 F8 A13 GD-5
Dean’s Record (so far): Pld 11, W3, D2, L6 Pts 11 F12 A19 GD-7They both average 1 point per match (Niel Cox averaged .86).
Yeah but Cox was reeelly reeelly brave !!!
So Admiral Nelson, ok mate Dean and Calamity Cox were all shite .. but i think Hill must of taken top prize for lowest points per game ratio ??
Another painful listen to what appears another sub standard performance on a night both Dorking N Torquay win (the latter away) meaning its pretty much done n dusted.
I like many others just dont get JDs tactics but the buck stops with him and simply not good enough. NLN next season is a shocker and whose to say the decline will stop there… could well end up in NLN for a very long time.Well done to the fans again for another big and noisy turn out .. how many will remain loyal after being let down again.
Torquay this Saturday will be “interesting” to say the least …….. NO NO NO im not gonna say another must win game as we just dont win any of them… Jarvis to come back n score would be a kick in the gonads unless hes injured not sure.
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The match commentary via Humberside is a god send for me but Cox makes my piss boil using the same terms n words repeatedly .. 10 times in the first half against Notts he used Brave or braver and as commented reeelly reeelly is also a favourite.It seems a distant memory when he was the gaffa and the 6-1 away result at footballing power house Harrogate Town alas we werent to know at that time via the Swans Cox , Hill n co just how far we would decline to end up where we are today.
As mentioned on another thread, i want to support JD but with his tactics and tinkering due to so many players coming in he is giving fans so much ammunition not to.
We wont survive this season thats pretty clear and next season in the NLN a lot will depend on who is still around before any sort of prediction can be made ..either way it wont be easy be maintain a top 5 place in a league is harder than it appears ..remember we were told the exact same line re the NL this season and wow hasnt that come to fruition.
im sticking with my 2-1 scoreline either way depending which Iron turn up so it could be a draw then which appears the bookies favourite scoreline ..
Sadly whilst all remaining fixtures are winnable its a tad unlikely to say the least , beating York Torguay , Dorking Gateshead wont be easy as they too are fighting for their NL survival that still leaves Aldershot , Oldham (Nuttal revisted) and Southend to navigate and hope those around faulter….HARRY POTTER COULDNT MAKE THAT HAPPEN … COULD HE ??
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Saturday would suggest everybody except the players.
Cock on .. how many really care ?? how many wont be with the club next season ?? maybe some just dont give a toss.
depends which Iron turn up .. the Wealdstone ensemble or the Notts County .
Heart says 2-1 Scunny
Head says 2-1 YorkSensible post les but get your tin hat ready, the idiots may be here very soon
Call me an idiot if you like, but I am not buying “they are a better side than us” you can play better sides and lose fighting for the cause, but to bend over and accept it like our players did on Saturday is completely unacceptable, I have seen many poor performances from Scunthorpe sides over the years but that was the worst of all by some distance.
Where was the pride? the passion? the desire? absolutely disgusting from every single player with the possible exception of Ogle.
Yes totally agree with that … got to be one of the worst performances ever by a Scunny side we were absolutely crap in every way shape n form total lack of fight or pride zilch it was an embarrassment.
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All this free hit nonsense is just bollocks , there should be no free hits ever and the players should turn up and give 110% every game. The Notts performance had zero positives it was shambolic in every way EXCEPT THE FANS who turned out on mass and were let down badly… on to York on Tuesady and i hope this total drubbing hasnt knocked any survival thoughts / confidence gained from the Wealdstone win.
Anything else than 3 points and IMO and i hope im wrong we will be going down again this term. As mentioned on another thread take away all the loan players then a few will leave such as Butters n Wilson etc we will be left with the youngsters and a smattering from this current bunch of leftovers.. if thats the case life in the NLN will be very tough and we could stuck there for quite some time … im normally a glass half full type but it could take years , decades for the club to get back into the EFL proper maybe not in my lifetime ..yes even with the bright spot when Mr Hilton bought n saved the club things are still that gloomy.Sad times indeed and the fat lady is ironing her frock ready to perform in the very near future.
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just came across the Notts fc yt channel and watched the goals … depressing watch and rather amusingly the subtitles had Scunthorpe spelling as Skunkboard.
With some of yesterdays results not going our way its YET ANOTHER MUST WIN game coming up on Tuesday … its afact we will have to perform a dam sight better that that to get anything at York.
talking to a Notts fan mate who was there .. Scunny were worst team hes seen this season by a long way but impressed by the away turn out and the Fans were the best to visit Meadow Lane…if only the team could match the fans heart and desire.
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This was a match that was over after 10 minutes, in fact it was probably over in the dressing room before taking to the pitch, I listened to it on RH, and Scunny never had a shot on target during the 90 mins, in fact only had one shot during the whole game, it must have been so boring, to be outplayed for the full game after taking the trip to Nottingham.
The only good point for you guys, was that you didn’tt have to listen to “really really” Cox, who moaned for the full broadcast, it wouldn’t be so bad, but when he was the manager, the team and asewt up was bloody terrible, but he appears to thgink that he knows everything right now.Indeed the HR commentary was hard listening in respect to just how outclassed Scunny were and more so as stated above Cox terrible warblings of really really n be btave braver really got on my tits , i remember his time as manager , it was torrid but he seems to have all the answers now vis the radio mic.
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Thanks for the commentary link Rene .. its pretty painful listening so far … however the most annoying part is Neil Cox constant use of the word brave or braver ..lost count already .
comorn the Iron
A big concern for me is how our players cope with a big crowd. Very few of them will have experienced such an atmosphere, I hope they don’t freeze.
A valid point .. may take them a while to settle down after the initial nerves and tension.
Team should be announced about what time .. 8pm here 2 hours to KO
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