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Awaywego wrote:

I hope your going to stand the increase for them IFA, what happens if Hilton doesn’t come up with the money to buy the ground? Will they not buy a season ticket and disappoint the eldest grandkid? Ask the grandkid if he’s bothered who owns the ground mine don’t give a flying f all they want to do is see as many scunny games home and away as they can, all the grandkids will see is some sad old fart in a distant country being a knob. For f sake you were one of the lads in toppo’s van you’ve had your enjoyment out of the club let the grandkids have theirs. Ps Have you told the grandkids on what you used to get up to so they know the boundaries to adheer to lol.

Valid points and some history thrown in as well thanks … i do suffer from SML sporadic memory loss so accidently forgot to tell them re away day exploits of yester year

As i said i only advised them ,they are old enough and wealthy enough to do as they wish so covered myself on appearing to be a knob..i absolutely love the fact my family back home want to support the club,and very happy they seem to want to do so to the extent of becoming ST holders, my point is IF there is a problem re DH and the GP ownership issue and it doesnt happen where would home games be played Swan could just lock the gates and auction GP off or grow spuds on the pitch WHO KNOWS ???…sadly this senario would leave ST holders and their families young n old where exactly ???

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64 wrote:

Leicester at Nuneaton,I remember that

Yes so do i ..twas a crazy away day both inside and outside the ground.

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As regular as a bout of herpes and just as iritating im sure Swan will be back around the 25th May to sweep up the debris if DH fails to coff up…

DISCLAIMER .. obviously im praying DH deal doesnt fall through and from then we can move forward on a UNITED front (and i do not suffer with herpes ,,,,often)

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Agree entirely with CBRP post , the early bird offer ending in April before the end of another disasterous season and without the takeover completed fully re GP is bonkers.

My daughter n son in law are buying STs as the eldest grand kid is hooked after the grass roots day , even though it will cost slightly more (nobody knows how much yet but cant be too much surely) i advised them to wait until after the GP issue is resolved which is exactly what i would do if was doing the same…

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bartonscorpion wrote:

ironfromafar wrote:

Turn up early enough you might even get a game with a name like Pele ..

Looking at current attendances in NLN many away fixtures could possibly have more Scunny fans then home so would be hard to enforce proper segregation.

Well ironfromafar, I would think that fans still turning out for Scunny away games will probably be placed in “straight jackets” because to be traveling to matches in the second level of none league games, you will be assessed to have a possible tile loose.

Excuse my rather obtuse terminology Barts.. after being away so long i will be overjoyed to travel to see the Iron when back in the Uk this coming season wherever they play home or away ..Tier 6 is unfortunate but hey ho ..

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From a believer …..love your long and spine tingling replies Patrick.. i can only sssume you must have a few spare hours to compos thereto . sat hunched over your Ilkeston office catering data base shrouded computer wearing only football socks n a chefs hat whilst surfing Nigela Lawson greatest tits.

Actually i agree with many things you say.alas its the footy im more bothered about JD n the team winning not how many starters , mains n desserts we can flog .

Love your spunk thoin support of the Ilseston fc ……. the holy land

sozz a bit pissed when pstin

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i would hope even without the “lads” Scunny could muster a decent following young or old if the football and results are positive ..

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Turn up early enough you might even get a game with a name like Pele ..

Looking at current attendances in NLN many away fixtures could possibly have more Scunny fans then home so would be hard to enforce proper segregation.

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Lord Kitchener wrote:

A few forum members who joined recently are attempting to sow the seeds of doubt. The trouble is that we are in a better place since Hilton purchased our club. He pulled us out of the deep doo doo, then payed off our debt with the tax man. We now have to look to the future, now that we have one, and give the man a chance to build success. I will now ignore conspiracy theorists on here. At the end of the day, Swann is gone, things will only get better.

UTBI

Yep pretty much how i see it .. Hilts has done no harm n saved the club and paid the debts .. see where things go from here .. or May 24 should i say.

Defo a few renegade characters joining the forum lately their motives true or shady all easy peasy taken n with a pinch of salt at my end ..too easy to sort the wheat from the chavs as my old gran used to say.

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Re signings …. sounds like its Turnbull Nelson Plummer combined with JD having the final yey or ney

Whose to say after the season ends a club wont come in for Nelson as their new manager, pretty sure he would seriously consider any offer of an actual management position and IMO could do a good job NLN NL levels.

Max 5 of this current bunch should stay with most members already pretty much all naming the same names .. alas still gonna have a couple of permacrocs on the books who should be paid off , given away or assassinated.
** Whitehouse needs to be back and played

Agree things need to happen quickly with regard to getting new faces in to give them a proper pre season together plus the later you leave it the more chance you end up with dreggs n left overs.

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Thats a funny vid …

Lets get May 24th sorted first ..after which if all goes well..
The fans will pay a huge part of life in the NLN .. getting a confidence boosting good start and a few positive results is massively important as should swell attendances and fans traveling to away games which in turn will make many seem like a home game… in reverse dont want to even imagine a bad start more doom gloom n negativity which will make for a long hard season.

After a pre season and new signings a dozen games in things will be clearer ..

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iron insider wrote:

will see who is right on may 24
but let me tell you this … it will be me

That may be the the preferred option for patrons and passersby of Costa Coffee .. however im fully expecting you to have to release the cheeks come the first home game on next season.

The clock is ticking

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iron insider wrote:

MK Iron wrote:

It is not Hilton’s choice to not take credit cards. It has been forced on the club and several other clubs and is well documented.

he should have paid the bond !!
he should have paid phone bill
he should have paid the pension contributions
he should have paid the accountants
he isn’t Mates with Alan Hardy !!
If he pays swann ill bare my arse in costa coffee window at first game next season

Didnt Mr Hilton confirm he already had the funds to pay Swan fro GP during the recent podcast ?? nothing to worry about then

With regard to your last point .. insider .. no photos it didnt happen so we will be expecting a nice crisp clean clear image of a freshly debugged shaven zit free rear end, not something lacking general hygiene and resembling the surface of the moon …plan ahead and prepare such is my confidence DH will rock up with the wonga.

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North Lincolnshire Irons wrote:

We have held season tickets for many years but this is the first time we are unsure as to purchase. Why is the cheaper deadline so early in April. It has always been by the end of May previously and is not considering supporters finances particularly in this present climate. The signing over of our stadium and land is yet to be completed we are told by Hilton on the 24th May. If this were not to happen we could be left with season tickets invalid and no refunds due to paying by cash. We do not have prices neither for the payments after the April deadline. This is not helping supporters who are willing to put money into our Club for the season and support week in week out and who like to sit in seats which they have for many seasons.

Cant disagree with any of that post .. i wouldnt be parting with any cash for a season ticket until after the GP ownership issue is resolved ..by which time the price has increased .. seems unfair.

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nail on the head time there cass … after the utter dross thats been served up by this group just why some are playing for contracts is head shaking , as ive previously said i would keep max 5 of this current crop (Chappo Elliot Ogle plus 2 of Shrimpton Wilson Butterfireld but he wont stay surely) the rest can buggar off ..Carver n Hallam have to stay to keep the Physio in a job

In the recent interview JD did say how players would be sourced and that he would have the final yes or no …that thought actually is quite scary.

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@IB … Pleased you had time to drop by and meet my gran .. she said quote; eeeee what a smashing lad just a shame he thinks he a reincarnation of inspector Morse

reminded me of this clip from Little Britain , gone but not forgotten

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For my sins i tuned in and listened to the commentary yesterday … from what i heard it seemed like a slightly better performance and at least suspect players dropped and the team had ago with 2 up front and actually scored.
No excuses but ref was poor very inconsistent re pulling back play after there was no advantage played on and Elliot put the ball in the net yet for Shots second goal play was pulled back and they scored from the free kick (with Codner totally unmarked i might add)
Ferris missed a sitter and Wilson missed when easier to score to equalize.

BEST OF ALL .. the only bright spot was great to listen to Nigel Adkins in the commentary box , his thoughts expert analysis and banter were miles better than Cox stale cliche ridden word salads…Sir Nigel commented re using the wingers and pressing opposition wing backs forcing them back amongst other very noticeable advice, oh how Scunny could do with his services again…absolute diamond of a fella.

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The best and the worst top 5 past n present Scunny managers ..anyone not mentioned means they were deemed IMO mediocre.

My somewhat dusty old memory goes back to 1983 to John Duncan to Alan Clarke

https://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=2263&teamTabs=managers

Best
Laws
Adkins
Alexander
Hurst
Buxton
* both Hurst n Alexander fell fowl of Swan

Worst
Hill
Cox
Mcall
Nic Daws
Knill

Im sure others will have their own thoughts

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yep its a strange one … wasnt impressed at all when he was at Scunny (a clue maybe being under Hill)… i do recall him being in aleague on his own when it came to getting booked ent off and suspended…regardless i wish the lad well he may well be in the EPL next season it is very tight in and around the Championship play off places.

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Gateshead beating Eastleigh away 5-2 and now in 14th on 52 points ..they are on fire and playing great football.. Torguay winning 4 on the bounce giving themselves a fighting chance of survival at the expense of Scunnys opponents today Aldershot…Oldham were deep in the relegation mix as were Dorking and York…now all in the clear.

My point being at no point what so ever did i get the slightest feeling or optimism that the Iron had a run of winning games in them .. henceforth i think i like many other fans pretty much knew and excepted it wasnt gonna end well regardless of the take over and signings… YES we all kept seeing the MUST WIN games drift by without a win and hoped again after the Wealdstone result..
IMO this was down to a few factors the main one being the seemingly negative mentality of the players and some strange tactical decisions by the manager.

I really hope as commented by Stu on the IRON WORLD yt channel that the fans keep the faith and get behind the new owner and club with decent attendances and away support as both will give a boost to the players…
How long JD will be manager depends purely on the results first third of the NLN season , bearing in mind we will be operating on a full time basis and being arguably the biggest club in the league anything less than top few places should see JD gone , Scunny fans should not have to suffer yet another mediocre mid table position and call that ok or a success .. and if god forbid at the bottom might as well bin the lot n grow potatoes on the GP pitch.

Looking forward trying to remain positive ..the retained list will be interesting and hopefully very short after all the loan spongers have departed ..i find JD comments that some are playing for deals a tad strange .. WTF surely after circa 17 games he should know already who should remain both on mindset and ability ..time will tell.

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Hill didnt give a shit ,, he had zero connection with the town or club , meant nothing to him and was only there for the money and to play out a role as Swans puppet..reminded me of Col Custer at the little big horn.
For a so called professional manager Hills post match ramblings were an embarrassment… where is he now ?? retired i hope

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Yes in terms of importance the up n coming King Charles Coronation is second only to the 24th of May GP deadline day … will Harry turn up who cares , will DH with the wonga we all care ??

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Patrick0811 wrote:

Ironfromafar
Your post is an excellent one, constructive criticism is always good, not that you have been very critical.
You are correct about me knowing Mr Hilton very well, therefore it can be frustrating to see criticism from all quarters for just about anything he does, or doesn’t do ?
Your assessment of the gamble he took to stay up is 100% correct, and your other thoughts are spot on as well.
If you and any friends want to visit Ilkeston anytime you are very welcome, I have some wonderful ideas that would benefit both our clubs (innovative pioneering interaction that someone like yourself would quickly grasp).
I am the catering manager at Ilkeston, which you see if you visit?, and not Mr Hilton masquerading as someone else, as has been suggested by some on here.
Ilkeston is a hive of activity everyday of the week, so any day is fine to see the running of the club, and if Mr Hilton is left to get on with things you may well find Scunthorpe will follow the model we have…. self suffient, susstainable and a very positive buzz from the staff, players, and most importantly the fans.

Thats a very kind offer Patrick , dont suppose you will cover travel expenses to Ilkeston for my son and i would you ?? JOKE we are based in Asia !! 55555555555

It is rather sad ironic that our long awaited trip back to the UK partly due to the pandemic will coincide with Scunny being in tier 6 , never the less we will take in as many home n away games as possible as well as meeting new family members for the first time (grand kids n son in law) whilst traveling around Blighty for a bit of sightseeing so why not the promised land Ilkeston to sample your fare , whats the beach like?

My sons last and only visit to Glanford park was in the 2003-4 season when the football on offer was a tad better than in the recent years of decline ..he was 4 years old now 23 he still finds my obsession with the Iron rather strange.

UTI

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From Interested Bystander to Inspector Clueso … YCMTSU

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Welcome back Patrick .. after all the years of doom n gloom you will obviously have some in the fan base that are of cup half empty mentality… i dont see much trolling here but lots of massively differing opinions, sadness and concern.

For my part ..
Im firstly hugely relieved we still have a club ..thanks to DH

I am very positive re DH and his actions as it seems he will listen to the fans (re not moving training to Ilk was quite a big issue within the fan base) , something thats not happened for years.

You are correct he was in between a rock n a hard place when deciding to sign all the players (TOO MANY) in a gamble to stay up ..sadly a gamble he /we lost… if he had done nothing he would have been slagged off but IMO i think many of the signings were rushed and just too many came in which just produced a melting pot of unknown talent and loanees who deep down dont care hence very difficult to gel in any sort of quick time frame.

We are down NLN it is ..this was very likely before DH arrived on the scene hopefully this is rock bottom.

I too like you think things will come good with DH at the helm .. however im not going to say it will be with JD as long term manager if results dont happen within the first third of next season.. hindsight is a wonderful thing and if fans can see some issues with JD im sure DH can see them too but JD should be given his chance with his own players not the jumbled bunch of pick n mix hes been working with to date.
You obviously know DH quite well , i like the sound of the fella and i get the impression hes not fussed about making hard decisions including where necessary sacking who ever needs removing from the club.

I hope the retained list is short Chappo n Elliot should be kept …after that its over to you Jimmy lad do yer best and prove those fans who are worried about you wrong .. i am on the fence with regard to JD i like somethings some stuff i dont so lets just see how it all pans out

Talk of Nelson, yes he seemed to be getting a bit more from the same group than previous managers had but the bar was low with Cox n Hill being total disasters.. maybe in hindsight DH could of saved a few bob and kept him but lets not forget he is still there and seems to be on JDs shoulder on the touchline so his input is still there , we will never know how thing would have worked out and thats the past .. the future is hopefully bright with DH … personally im overjoyed we still have a future.

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The clock is ticking re GP ownership change , end of next month i believe after which an update from DH with regard to “the plan” going forward both with the club its self ,surrounding land and the 1899 gig would be much appreciated and fans can heave a sigh or relief on that issue.

No more rash decisions followed by U turns.

The retained list will be interesting .. im hoping its very short.

Whatever it takes and with JD or another as manager as we appear to be operating full time confirmed by DH (NO U TURN YET) one would hope we can at least form a team that is competitive and wins its fair share of games thus in and around the right end of NLN ..

JD knows positive results have to come and IMO if after a dozen games we are mid table or lower im sure DH will act accordingly for that reason im predicting a very difficult n mixed first NLN season but so much depends on what players come in and who chooses to sign them.

so in order what do i want just a few of many i could list….

the safety of the club is the first priority, GP ownership sorted

play positive attractive football and win some games that keeps the fan base engaged , i really hope both home and away support continues to be in big numbers it will help the team a lot.

Players with some passion n pride in their profession that care and not just there for the wage

A shiny new local training facility with a self funding academy with all youngsters tagged with sell on clauses.

Good grub on match days

Back in the NL within 2 seasons

Back in L2 within 3 seasons
(yep i know ONLY 5 years in non league is being very optimistic)

** Blow away L2 L1 then Championship promotion to the EPL and win the CL final
(sorry on the local moonshine again i am on holiday)

NOT TOO MUCH TO ASK IS IT ????

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Sanfran49 wrote:

A U-turn would not have been needed if proper discussions had been held.

It is obvious nothing had been discussed with any coaches in the academy before the ‘it will be scrapped’ statement was made. How do we know this – well that morning the U15s were away at Bradford and a parent said the coaches actually received messages from friends about what had been said ! They had not got a clue !!

That was wrong, then you find out that to shut it down was actually going to cost a fair amount of money. That would have been known if the correct people had been talked to.

Now we need to see what the financial plan is to fund the academy moving forward.

So for me the jury is out on Mr Hilton.

That does shed a bit more light on the issue for sure and 100% the details of a financial plan need to be available to see where any sponsorship funds would go.

Bartoniron66 wrote:

It’s brilliant for all concerned that the academy has been saved including myself as an employee of it, but it doesn’t change the fact that the facilities are not fit for purpose and still needs major investment.

As it has been said the kit is second rate, the pitches are terrible and the office is very dated, the staff put in so much hard work for the young lads and must feel embarrassed at the facilities they are given.

So the hard work must start again and hope we can get some money through sponsorship as well as the EFL and Mr Hilton’s, so if any businesses are reading please, please try and help these talented staff and young players.

Precisely the reason why the plan needs to be aired .. first mention of sub standard facilities as before the closing of the academy was down to cost cutting and its past failures to see any returns via sell on clauses.
Sponsoring an up n running academy is one thing but knowing where any funds will be used is obviously very important , sounds to me like a total revamp required as well as day to day costs and expenses.

Iron-awe wrote:

You would have thought the commercial side of the club would be drumming up financial support from local business regarding the academy, I mean it’s not rocket science for them to be doing their job in all aspects to help the entire club run better and be better funded surely

Agreed .. the club seem to have plenty of sponsors for match day games balls etc etc i would hope the clubs commercial department have / should have been approaching as many local businesses and any other possible routes of income in the way of sponsorship for the academy.

IMO .. The issues with GP ownership and the grey areas need clearing up after which more businesses and /or individuals may wish to assist, when confirmed the bad Swan smell has finally gone and he is finally history.

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Awaywego wrote:

IfA the money is needed now for the academy not in the future or it will fold.

I can just imagine what my two biz partners would say re any donation /sponsorship at this moment and i wont embarrass myself even putting it too them …the fact GP ownership is still up in the air along with other grey areas im afraid a cautious approach is needed much the same as IMO Hilton should of done directly after he purchsed the club ..look where hasty business dealings got the club !!!
Re the academy ..great news that a viable plan has been submitted and approved .. will we be privvy to this plan anytime soon so any people wishing to assist know more details ? and more so does it include a hefty salary for Daws ? i assumed he would be one in the cull box on Hiltons list of where things can be streamlined.

If would be interesting to know just how many back room staff will be kept on or given their p45s .. or who has already agreed to leave the building Mussy, Daws to name 2 …how many coaches does the club need in NLN level ?

David Hilton has my backing and i feel positive he will come good ..alas not so with JD the jury is still out on the manager and i think Hilts will have a difficult decision to make on that score in the not too distant future.

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Lucky escape for Yeovil .. whatever salary hes on taking him without realizing he was injured is sheer folly …oh BTW Rance has been crap from what ive seen.

One for the bin .. in fact all except 3 or 4 should be binned off immediately.

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64 wrote:

Its safe to say ,nothing has improved and the football has got worse since the takeover

On the pitch ..yes totally agree

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