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    SharpShooter24Sharp_Shooter24
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    Absolutely smashing it in the championship!
    Scored again tonight against Norwich

    Not sure I saw that coming, fair play to him

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    ironfromafarironfromafar
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    yep its a strange one … wasnt impressed at all when he was at Scunny (a clue maybe being under Hill)… i do recall him being in aleague on his own when it came to getting booked ent off and suspended…regardless i wish the lad well he may well be in the EPL next season it is very tight in and around the Championship play off places.

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    Bartoniron66Bartoniron66
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    Think the spitting issue at Exeter got the backs up at Scunny, he was just beginning to show his true form then we lost him to a 6 game ban, I said to my lad he was far better then anything we had last season.

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    What does Hackney have in common with:-
    Regan Slater, George Miller, Ben Liddle, Tom Billson, Liam Thompson, Billy Fewster, Jake Leake, Luke Mathieson, George Thomas, Tyler Cordner?

    All are young players recently loaned to The Iron by clubs several divisions higher and rated by their parent clubs. Under various managers NONE excelled here, Leake probably the most useful. Some, but not all, clearly have ability so who is choosing these youngsters and why do they all fail to shine here?

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    If I remember, Ivan Toney was not very good when we had him. Now there are rumours that Ten Hag wants him at Manchester United.

    So it’s not just managers that are not up to much when they come to The Iron, then go on to prove themselves at a higher level then? It’s players too.

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    #260015
    cassidystashcassidystash
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    I thought Toney was excellent, just blotted his copybook with that penalty fiasco.
    Apart from Hackney none of the above are regularly performing at a much higher level than when they were here I don’t think. Certainly no Toney, Cork, Lansbury etc amongst them.

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    Maybe there lieth the problem LK people thinking he wasn’t very good when actually he was, if only he hadn’t tried to take That penalty. Also add Sam Johnstone to the list.

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    I remember Joe Lolley we had on loan who hardly got game time went back to championship and for 2 or 3 seasons was a top performer at that level.

    Goode left us for a nominal amount and was sold for 1mill. Wootton has scored 14/15 goals this season at lg 2 for Stockport and a load before that for Notts County. Godden has done well at championship level.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the same happened with Poulter. No doubt we’ve had talent but just not nurtured them correctly. They show talent but there tends be a breakdown in between the talent and them transferring it to the pitch.

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    cliffbyrnesrightpegCliff Byrne’s Right Peg
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    Now you’re starting to ask the right question, Wondergoals.

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    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    Some of the names listed above also failed on loan at other clubs.

    I’d argue that what has changed since the days of Cork, Landsbury and Beckford is the way loans are used.

    We’ve gone from having maybe just 2 or 3 loanees over the course of a season to perhaps ten or a dozen!

    This means that both the loans and our own youngsters don’t get the game time they need to develop.

    And it can be a no win situation too. We sign a loan and don’t play him – why do we need him? Put him straight in the team – it’s denying one of our own players a place in the starting lineup.

    Put a limit on the number of loans available over the course of a season – handicapping clubs with small squads?

    A difficult one!

    #260113
    cassidystashcassidystash
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    I’m not ashamed to repeat my stance on loans. If they’re not good enough to be automatic picks then we’ve chosen badly. Can’t imagine Toney, Cork, Lansbury etc being benched let alone not in the match day squad like some recent acquisitions.

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    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    Precisely!

    And if loans do go straight In we’ve recruited badly!

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    Bartoniron66Bartoniron66
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    The bigger clubs especially premier league club demand that there young players are automatic picks no matter what, so there is no point in bringing in players that are only as good as what we unless to cover long term injuries.

    We do seem to bring in players just for the sake of it with a number not featuring much or not at all, this season we have had Ashley Fletcher, billy fewster to name just two that just made up the numbers.

    We have to be more careful in our recruitment of all players not just loans as we appear to have for the last 5/6 seasons bought in some absolute dross, said it a number of times but IMO a director of football is a must along with better and more detailed scouting reports before we offer these players.

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    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    Good points BI66.

    Perhaps not practical if we’re cost cutting, but possibly doable on a PT basis.

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    cassidystashcassidystash
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    Let me clarify, by automatic picks I mean on ability not contractually.
    Better than we’ve got has to be the criterion.

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    Jon Walters anyone?

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    Everytime refereePat O’Cake
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    I thought Toney and Wooton were superb for us, I said at the time when many players were slagging Wooton off, you can see there is a player there, put him in a decent side and watch him shine and he has done just that!

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    If I remember correctly Jack Cork did spend a while bench warming before his 34 appearances and 2 goals – seem to remember him being deployed at right back too on several occasions.

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