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But it sounds like he’s lost the dressing room. The players seem not to respect him (and that is the players fault as well). It’s a difficult one because a long term stay in this division will provide stability but the club as we know it will be a shadow of its former self. I really struggle to stay engaged in the quality of football, officials, pitches, grounds etc I go to every home game even though I have to travel, and watch on NLTV and I can’t believe what I watch half the time. It’s not entertainment, and if this is what sustainability looks like then who is going to be in it for the long term? Maybe 1,000-1,500 hardcore of fans

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Must be linked to gate receipts only though? If in playoffs we would probably make up 95% of attendance at home and 40-50% away (depending on opponent/ allocation etc). if I were Scunny I would be doing tickets for a fiver but you’ve got to buy a monthly lottery ticket!

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That seems an odd set up for the playoffs. Why only 25% of revenue? (Presumably you mean ticket sales not match day revenue?) so if our home match generated, say £60k of ticket money we only get £15k? It’s 25% of the revenue after costs? So with policing and other match costs it could be break even at best? Not heard this before

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Butterfield misfiring and Scales out of touch, Cluinan can’t score as that would involve aiming the ball in the opposite direction to his normal service. Pugh could contribute but Dean doesn’t like him for some reason.

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Well the way we’re playing will not see us promoted it’s as simple as that. Smart teams have worked us out and they need do no more because we have no plan B. So we either stick to what we’re doing and hope it comes good and hope teams forget how to counteract our plan A. The brand of football is bland at best. If you want to put a positive spin on it – a slip down the table to 4/5th means significant extra revenue for more games in playoffs! That’s assuming we get in the playoffs

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If Dean has requested an extension he needs to demonstrate he isn’t one dimensional and knows what he’s doing because at the minute he isn’t doing a great job and has no clue how to change things. Not a great advert for a contract extension. He’s Hilton’s man so maybe we need somebody with league experience and previous ties to the club……

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Deereyme66

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I just think that a sustained stay in this division will be detrimental to the long term standing of the club. We would survive as a part time NLN club but crowds will dwindle and the quality and entertainment will be considerably sub standard. I can’t say there is any appeal in watching dross week after week, it’s really poor quality stuff, how anybody is entertained by some of this stuff is beyond me.
The quality of officiating is beyond abysmal. There is a balance between spending and sustainability as there is with every club but our natural level should be league two, I just fear a couple more years in NLN and our natural level will be NLN and that would only appeal to a hardcore group of fans. This season is a novelty for most (away support) but 3 years of Banbury away and we’ll barely fill
a bus load.

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Dean doesn’t have the nous to change his approach, that’s the problem.

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If we don’t go up this season it will be catastrophic, the board need to see it.

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Plenty on the pay roll who could do a better job. Head says he’s going nowhere but with the squad we have to serve up this stuff, something’s not right

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Iron-awe

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Has to be E

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Of course it makes sense to go through the playoffs / the amount of additional revenue generated from those extra games could pull in north of £100-200k

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You can play 6 up front. If you’re going to piss around at the back, let the opposition walk back into their formation and then pump the ball into empty space makes no odds. The only thing Dean has left to hang onto is possession stats, and even that drops when Beestin enters the pitch

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Rene Artois

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Something is clearly not right and Dean looks helpless.

Whitehall was particularly disinterested – maybe tired from the new born but very ineffective

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Rene Artois

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Can we embargo the manager from the premises?

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Got to get it right / assume the budget is based on a number of season ticket sales and average attendances (probably 2.500-3,000) but if we keep serving up the dross that we’ve seen in the past few matches then the following season it’ll be 1,500 avg. which is still good for this pub league but our overheads will be a lot higher. If we fail to get promoted (and we need to play a lot better to stand a chance of going up through the playoffs) then I’d want somebody with a bit more footballing experience (as in league football) and that could be Butler – but do you give him total free reign for player selection? Or do you stick with Dean for another crack at promotion? If we’re looking at sustainability and long term then Dean isn’t the answer for me. But these are tough decisions ahead of us

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Just Iron

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If they score away from home one can hope they commit men forward rather than just sit back and allow us to pass aimlessly around the back 4 as we appear to do. If (I mean if) we go one up I don’t want to see the same garbage as we witnessed against Blyth.

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Of course I forgot about Dean’s contract ending. There’ll be a shedloads of work to be done in close season. I don’t expect Dean should be part of that.

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Turnbull has done OK in part, I think it went severely wrong when Swann junior and his agent buddy started buying players.
It’s a tricky one for next season

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I am slightly fearful of who will be sourcing the dozen or so players needed for next season, assuming none are offered new deals. I read somewhere a suggestions of Butterfield as a player coach – I think that is something worth exploring. Wealth of experience and seems like a good egg.

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Elliot sub is a complete mind bender for me. We had nothing to lose by going 3 at the back and bringing on Whitehall with Elliot and go 3-3-3 after man sent off and goal down.

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It was shameless stereotyping I agree.

Some were postmen who worked the morning shift…. Sorry I’ve gone full John Motson.

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Deereyme66

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The game plan, however boring had eventually worked, 1-0 up a few breaks up field straight into a corner to try and waste time against a plumber who’d grafted all day and then played footy.
That’s plain embarrassing. Why didn’t we go into the corner against Rushall? (We’re a bit more comfortable at home against 9 part timers rather than 11 part timers away from home?). Guess what? It doesn’t work because as every but Dean will see it took 30 seconds from their corner to our goal. It’s been bollocks to watch for a few weeks now. Butler needs to get more involved as he’s the one with league experience.

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another fed up fan

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My view is that it is vitally important for our long term survival (that we go up). The goodwill will soon dissipate when we slide further into anonymity. We’ll have a core of supporters but we’re not a mad passionate local football supporting town. We’re massively out of the spotlight, BBC updates, Sky Ticker, general coverage. Long term it means less attraction for players and fans alike. We’ve watched some great football in the past but a long term stay in this division is not something I would look forward to, the quality is just too shit. Don’t mind consolidating in NL for a bit but NLN is just shit, the refs, the away fan(s) the grounds. It’s quirky for the first season but going to these places for the next 2-5 years – we’ll be down to 1,500 in no time and then we’ll be part time just hanging around these leagues with fat immobile centre forwards who ‘put it about a bit’. I watched last night and thought it was so slow laboured and not very enjoyable, how we’ve fallen so far so quickly, and this squad are supposed to be full time professionals

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He won’t fit with JD’s not playing a striker strategy whilst chasing the game

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Simple matter is that, on our biggest game for a good while the manager was left severely wanting in pre match set up and then in game decisions. Everyone in that ground could see it. Even the RH team who were as diplomatic as ever but you could sense their bewilderment. Games of this type and opposition of this type will come thick and fast in NL and he won’t have a clue what to do.

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Said it enough times, thick as mince. No plan B and my god Beestin out wide- when will that ever work. Beestin isn’t worth a place in the squad. Torpey had it right on Humberside – bringing off Elliot and leaving Wilson and Beestin on the pitch was just bizarre.

When we need a plan B he just hasn’t got a clue. We looked aimless and leaderless in front of a bumper crowd

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You just know Dean will play him left wing….

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Southend Tuesday night about 15 years ago. Called off 19.30,

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Ferrite

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Problem now is 2 away games in a row and I am not convinced Dean can get the 6 points we definitley need

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