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    saleironsaleiron
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    This is worth a read. Looks like there is now a move to separate the memorial fundraiser from the Trust’s core objectives and, perhaps, by implication, that there has been some mission creep recently.

    https://www.theirontrust.com/open-invitation-to-form-an-independent-kk-memorial-and-memorial-garden-steering-group/

    #324437
    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    “Confucius say, when man find himself in hole it is best to stop digging”!

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    #324439
    Apollo11Apollo11
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    This is worth a read. Looks like there is now a move to separate the memorial fundraiser from the Trust’s core objectives and, perhaps, by implication, that there has been some mission creep recently.

    https://www.theirontrust.com/open-invitation-to-form-an-independent-kk-memorial-and-memorial-garden-steering-group/

    As I said in another thread, they are clearly well aware that they slop-dropped a steaming wet one with the KK stuff, and so are now fashioning their future movement to cover their arses.

    At least they are trying to put right what they got so very wrong. It doesn’t alter the fact that someone on the Trust’s judgement is appalling.

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    what a load of nonsense. This is a trust project to try and now claim otherwise is lying. The claim to fund raising being separated is flawed .as the money raised from the Garcia shirt was what they were relying on for the £500 donation .
    I asked them to cancel my membership yesterday and remove me from the mailing list, I still received this self serving hindsight written backsliding .Memorial gardens take a lot of upkeep and will require lots of money and time. I guess instead of laying a wreath at “Keegan’s feet we can now do it at Keegan’s rhododendron.

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    Apollo11Apollo11
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    It also means that if there is going to be a memorial of any kind, at least control will be wrestled away from the Trust and handed to people with calm heads and reasonable taste.

    We might not end up with

    LIVE
    LAUGH
    LOVE IT, LOVE IT

    Although, of course, we also might. But this shift does represent an opportunity.

    #324445
    Apollo11Apollo11
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    what a load of nonsense. This is a trust project to try and now claim otherwise is lying. The claim to fund raising being separated is flawed .as the money raised from the Garcia shirt was what they were relying on for the £500 donation .
    I asked them to cancel my membership yesterday and remove me from the mailing list, I still received this self serving hindsight written backsliding .Memorial gardens take a lot of upkeep and will require lots of money and time. I guess instead of laying a wreath at “Keegan’s feet we can now do it at Keegan’s rhododendron.

    The Kevin Keegan Clematis

    #324447
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    ” However, the Trust Board will consult with Trust members to determine what future actions the Trust should take to support the fundraising, ”
    notice it’s not whether the Trust should take action but what actions they should take.

    #324448
    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    Nowt like passing the buck.
    Wasn’t me guv.

    #324449
    Apollo11Apollo11
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    Quango ahoy!

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    fans6464
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    we’ve been quangoed

    #324453
    ironlion82ironlion82
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    The Trust are now saying they are going to consult with members about any future fund raising. It’s a bit late for that as they have already put £500 of the Trusts money into the Go Fund Me without any consultation.
    Come to that they never consulted with members about the hair brained scheme in the first place
    The fact they have raised around £3600 out of a target of £50 k shows just what a stupid idea this was from the start.

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    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    Your last sentence says it all ironlion.

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    Apollo11Apollo11
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    The Trust are now saying they are going to consult with members about any future fund raising. It’s a bit late for that as they have already put £500 of the Trusts money into the Go Fund Me without any consultation.
    Come to that they never consulted with members about the hair brained scheme in the first place
    The fact they have raised around £3600 out of a target of £50 k shows just what a stupid idea this was from the start.

    The wording of the latest email is interesting. I think they realise they messed up and are either

    i) genuinely trying to put things right, or

    ii) setting up the necessary apparently independent body so that those within the Trust who unilaterally launched the funder can co-opt that new body (as apparent independents) and continue the agenda with the Trust itself being distanced from scrutiny / criticism.

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    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    iii) We’ve got £3,600 of people’s money. That’s not enough for a statue, so what the hell are we going to do with it?

    #324486
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    Rebranding under way.
    Iron Mistrust.

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