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Lets be right the Chairman has scored quite a few PR own goals in his time at GP, from promising the earth ground wise, promotion wise , to stopping fans bringing a drink into the ground particularly during winter, moaning that fans have food and drink outlets to use, instead which in reality are poorly stocked, poorly run and understaffed to the point of being 6th in the queue at halftime and still not getting served before the 2nd half kicks off. He throws in the odd ” blame me I can take it ” routine during some interviews but its not convincing and in reality its everyone elses fault but his. Listen Mr Chairman, you are in charge and the buck does stop with you, same as 127,000 Covid deaths stops at Johnsons door, thats the reality of being top dog, glory when or if it goes right and an arse kicking if it doesn’t.

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I’d laugh briefly if Grimsby went out the league again but be disappointed that we’d lost a local derby and our biggest rivals, and the revenue.

This was my point DM but Awaywego got all statistical about it regarding results and points in a comparison with Torquay, as usual missing the big point once again. 🙄

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127,000 deaths? Aye ok
127,000 Covid deaths? Nope.
And no flu deaths this year? You are having a laugh.

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So social distancing, wearing a mask and not mixing in large groups just helps keep Covid deaths down then alcy?, just remind everyone again how flu is spread? 🤔 DAH.

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Good points by alcy but as you say DM the media led bit doesn’t ring true for me. It wasn’t the media causing over 127,000 covid deaths but a reluctance by the blonde fat scarecrow to get his arse in gear sooner and actually listen to scietific advice which he has done in later months. All the media did was report it. The truth hurts sometimes.

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As i stated on another thread alcy, local derbies bring in extra revenue all small clubs need, would rather play the Cods twice a season then Torquay for obvious reasons. We all like to beat our nearest rivals and rub it in a bit but if clubs like ours are to survive we need our nearest local sides competing in the same division as us on a regular basis. Despite us and Grimsby having spells in the Championship over recent seasons we still have a long history of competing against each over a decent length of time in our histories to suggest what we both enjoy and both need to remain viable.

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With our budget limits now set a lot lower then when the Chairman first arrived then whatever we have offered Gilliead, even our best offer under difficult circumstances, won’t be anything what a club like Ipswich can offer. When he looks around their ground, set up and overall history compared to ours then that will be another contributing factor. He’s a typical player we have on our books, bring on and improve then let go to bigger and better things, it’s just life in the lower leagues, you all should be aware by now so stop talking bollocks alcy.

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As Yoda would say ” surprised are we not ” too good for us and league two.

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I bet Barrie Thomas from Winterton Iron can remember Jack playing in the Leeds team at Elland Road that got stuffed 4-1 by the Iron back in day. Come on Barrie refresh our memories.

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…. wheras on the Cods forum it’s completely the opposite from, shit traitorous chairman, shit manager, shit tactics, shit players, no heart no passion, planning routes to non league grounds next season, worst team ever, deserve to go down, fans deserve better. Then, new board taking over, new optimism, new ground, new town regeneration plan, we will be back better then ever etc etc. Phew it’s a real bag of fans bollocks on the fishy forum but then again they are DOOMED and that’s the reason it’s busy.

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The Cods scenario is interesting, we all give them stick as local rivals and vice versa but it’s in our financial interests for them to stay up. Any promoted side from the National League we play at home next season will provide slim pickings financially compared to playing the Cods, I presume we will be allowed back in next season to watch.

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Karma !

More like Krappa, Southends manager is full of it.💩

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Yep I will settle for your assessment fi, also worth a mention if Barrow beat our local rivals tonight then the Cods will be well and truly GUTTED and FILLETED although I suspect they are already down.

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Glad common sense has been applied here but it was still a stupid thing to do in this day and age. Just don’t raise your hands period, it’s not bloody rocket science and Clarke is not a hot headed rookie, he should have known better and also should be setting a better example to younger players.

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I think we should all be grateful that it appears we will still have a viable football club running next season after the last twelve months, boring or not. I say ” appears ” because nothing in football and finance is absolutely certain.

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I’m just being realistic Cass, in the world of the egotistical footballer, they aren’t going to come on here and listen to what all us lot spout, they don’t give a flying f*** about what us lot say it’s just between us. It’s about as relevant as badge kissing and doing it for the fans, the majority of em IMO just see it as a decent career for a short time and earn as much as possible. I must admit I don’t blame them either, if someone outside of my workplace with no practical working knowledge in that industry came on a forum and told me what to do and how to act at work,I would ignore them too.

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Wow, if the players believe anything on this board and take it to heart, they really are stupid.

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B.gray

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Not much happy talk on this thread, you guys need to lighten up or you’ll never have a dream come true.

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Go on then alcy, no doubting it was a terrible game but Cox has been crucified by some over games this season for chopping and changing his side, sometimes 5 players at a time. Today he left things alone apart from one change, then after the game he said the team looked leggy and he blamed the Saturday/ Tuesday scenario finally catching up with the side. He also said he didn’t make wholesale changes prior to ko as he thought the team from Tuesday could still give him more. So, has he made a mistake by not making changes?, or if he had made changes yet the outcome had been similar would he have been criticised for making wholesale changes? I know it’s catch 22 stuff but it’s a case of damned if he does or damned if he doesn’t. The main thing is, whether the game was shite or not, it’s another point for consolidation, with Barrow, Grimsby and obviously Southend drawing we are still in a very good position compared to teams below us with one game less to play. Now we have seen the performance and the result is in ( hindsight ) what would the experts on this forum think Cox should have done team wise prior to kick off without hindsight? Not easy is it when people nail you whatever course you take team wise be it no change or too many changes. At least Cox admitted it was poor stuff and didn’t try and hide but what would the forum experts have done prior to ko team wise? Can’t wait for the expert views to come in.

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It’s a game we should really win and we are playing so much better as a team since we went down there in December and lost in a miserable display. The games we have lost since we beat Grimsby have been to better teams we should probably lose to anyway this season but we have picked up some good wins and of late good draws against sides we could have lost too prior to Xmas. I’m looking for us to bang another nail into the Southend coffin tomorrow and keep ourselves looking upward.

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Well said MK young players need and should get plenty of backing from the fans, completely agree about some jumping on their backs when things don’t go great some of the time. Wooton has bagged a nice amount of goals since going to Notts County and I’m delighted for the lad, hope he goes on to have a long successful career, as for Sutton, he’s back next week with Bradford and he’s been playing really well for them, we shall see what he does to us. Haven’t seen Novak in their squads lately after he started well for them, guess he’s injured.

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Good point Cliff, a repeat from the next 11 games will see us on 59 points, not too shabby for a first season manager plauged with injuries to senior players and struggling to find a shape for a load of inexperienced younger players. I’ll take it.

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Law of averages kicking in with these recent draws against teams we should have probably beaten, yeah we can moan about Cox and his tactics etc etc etc but we were due a few draws and these things invariably even themselves out over a season. Main thing is we probably won’t need 50 points now to be 100% safe ( I think most of us know we already are ) but just feast your eyes a few miles eastbound along the M180 and imagine how our fishy friends are feeling, in fact don’t imagine just nip on their forum and read. Most of them are on the verge of cutting their own throats ( or gills ) tonight, so let’s be grateful for what we have at GP now after such a poor run up till Xmas. Cox has struggled at times that is true but his playing squad is mainly inexperienced and his senior players have been mainly injured or not fully fit. Cox himself is learning as he goes along in his first job so it’s probably time we cut him a bit more slack and chopping and changing managers hasn’t worked out too well for us in recent years so let’s give this lad a fair crack and hopefully next season won’t feel so traumatic. I’ll put my tin hat on and wait for BS to pass his sever judgement on this post but in truth I don’t give a shit what he says anyway, it’s just an opinion.

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Depends what PL teams you are talking about NI, one team very rarely gets a penalty against them but gets loads themselves, same with red cards, very rare for them to get one.

Not the red half of Manchester by any chance? 🤔😂

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Annoying familiar habit of sitting back after starting brightly and scoring early, then a free header in the box from 4 yards out is scored by them, so bloody frustrating. Then the tactical sub, then the change of shape and we should have won it and with better refereeing we would. If we start with the second shape and Spence on we win the game end of. Think the manager got the first half wrong today but an away point is still a good result in the grand scheme of things. Must win Tuesday night now and start with the proper shaped team please Mr Cox.

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Come on guys you know it’s his natural role in such matters, as Troy McClure from the Simpsons famously said ” Its the role I was born to play baby “.

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As usual with alcy it’s not what he sees it’s what ” he wants to see “, there is a huge difference of course.

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Although the wage cap is lifted, the chairman made it clear in the summer that the spend spend era was over. Now most of our better players are out of contract in the summer and the VanVeen’s, MaGahey’s, Gilleads, Eisa’s etc were signed on two and two and a half year deals when the spend mindset was still in place. There are recurring injuries to consider as mentioned by les but I believe and have stated elsewhere that next season will see more young inexperienced players brought in and Cox told to get on and sort it. Agree that Clarke and Brown will go but to have very few experienced players would be disastrous IMO, young players are fully of energy and enthusiasm but a few bad games and a few knocks then heads will drop. Old guns can handle all that and keep going and more importantly will encourage the younger lads with words and deeds. Swann will know all this but whether he relents on higher wages for some older heads remains to be seen. I guess it’s the great unknown at the moment but I fear the worse.

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I believe the majority of clubs have plenty of big ego look at me types in their ranks, difference with the better players at bigger clubs that have arrogant spats is that they usually have the talent to back their arrogance up and get back in the gaffers favour. McAtee isn’t a top player but he has ability which should make him a good player in time at a reasonable level if he listens to coaches, works hard and puts his ego on the back burner for a bit. Not easy for a young man with reasonable ability but who thinks he is Maradona and I don’t mean dead either.

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I misread the OP title, thought it said Fortress Fanny, presumed alcy was discussing his private residence. Just leg pull alcy, chill out.

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Sanfran49 wrote:

Well someone is tinkering that is for sure.

Well I hope its not Ranieri, the original Tinkerman, according to the media anyway. As for Exeter playing the same team on Saturday I’m not sure that is relevant TBH all set ups are different. This injury issue was hear a long time before Cox arrived, how many years has it been mentioned now?, the reasons?, we are still none the wiser.

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